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June 23, 2022, 01:48:01 PM
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I'm not so sure about that. As I'm trying to point out earlier, the Clippers have already formed a decent team with those three players and they are only missing the return of their two stars. Kahwi will most likely return next season in better shape because he's taken his time to recover. He'll probably prefer to play under a team with established chemistry. I remember he said something about chemistry as one reason when they lost in his first season as a Clipper.
Could be, as long as Kawhi and Paul George are healthy, they can trade. Jackson and Mann can stay. Zubac though looks very soft as a center for Clippers.

So let's see if they are willing for that kind of trade just to get Kyrie. It will be a gamble for them as Kyrie seems to bring some issues with him as he go with other teams. Clippers have a lot of thinking before they can pull that trade and I don't think that they can free some tax as well if ever they acquire Irving.

Kyrie seems to be a big attraction for them but I don't know if it is going to be worth it for them to do everything that they are prepared to do to get this player. I also agree that it is going to be a gamble. And if there is a case of injury it is not going to work out very well for them too.


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June 23, 2022, 01:57:51 PM
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I'm not so sure about that. As I'm trying to point out earlier, the Clippers have already formed a decent team with those three players and they are only missing the return of their two stars. Kahwi will most likely return next season in better shape because he's taken his time to recover. He'll probably prefer to play under a team with established chemistry. I remember he said something about chemistry as one reason when they lost in his first season as a Clipper.
Could be, as long as Kawhi and Paul George are healthy, they can trade. Jackson and Mann can stay. Zubac though looks very soft as a center for Clippers.

So let's see if they are willing for that kind of trade just to get Kyrie. It will be a gamble for them as Kyrie seems to bring some issues with him as he go with other teams. Clippers have a lot of thinking before they can pull that trade and I don't think that they can free some tax as well if ever they acquire Irving.

Kyrie seems to be a big attraction for them but I don't know if it is going to be worth it for them to do everything that they are prepared to do to get this player. I also agree that it is going to be a gamble. And if there is a case of injury it is not going to work out very well for them too.


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Even if Kyrie is the most talented player exist in this era still its a huge gamble for them to get this player unto their team because many know how toxic he is and that could affect their organization if they encounter the same issue again with him. Maybe its best for them to select different potential stars which is a team player because could give them more good result.

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June 23, 2022, 02:00:30 PM
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Whichever team needs a defender needs to offer something good on this guy. Nicolas Batum.
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34124943/sources-nicolas-batum-decline-option-wants-remain-la-clippers
He wants to remain a Clippers but it doesn't suit the decline for the option. He is looking for more, a better team with better pay, maybe. The way he performed without PG13 and Kawhi is outstanding on the defensive end and could be a roleplayer for any team.

The Kyrie trade to Clippers is not on the news, it's just a rumor or someone posting fake news on social media.

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June 23, 2022, 02:01:11 PM
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Lakers are going to be the team that I wonder about the most before next season. Because they were really bad last season and couldn't qualify for even the playoffs. Lebron was the most impressive player of the team as always but even his high effort couldn't help the desperate condition of the team. Because he didn't have anyone to help him about making it to the playoffs at least. Westbrook and Davis were really inadequate. Westbrook isn't performing like in the old times and Davis had a serious injury. I hope that Lakers change their starting five by new trades.

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June 23, 2022, 03:20:32 PM
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~ The Brooklyn Nets will trade Kyrie Irving to the LA Clippers for Robert Covington, Norman Powell, and Ivica Zubac I think this trade is the most out-of-pocket for a team to be doing we all know how good Kyrie Irving is, and to trade him for three players I think the Brooklyn Nets is just making money out of him,
This move tells us that Clippers doesn't want a repeat of their last two season when their two key players (Kahwi & PG) struggled to stay healthy throughout the regular season and playoffs. The problem here is they are still going to struggle with the new team chemistry and their rotation. I think Covington, Powell, and Zubac have become an integral part of their system already and it will be tough to replace them. As of now, it's looking like a win for the Nets.

The LA Clippers really need star players right now and if they do such a thing they really are in a desperate situation the Brooklyn Nets aswell would surely need to up their defense and I think Robert Covington, Norman Powell, and Ivica Zubac could be their salvation in getting what they want, but there is a drawback here they are giving Kyrie Irving, a major Scorer for the team of the Clippers, while the Brooklyn Nets are really focusing on their defense, I think they have seen the Bostin Celtics and the Golden State Warriors have a defensive game aswell and that is what they lack,

The Brooklyn Nets will trade Kyrie Irving to the LA Clippers for Robert Covington, Norman Powell, and Ivica Zubac I think this trade is the most out-of-pocket for a team to be doing we all know how good Kyrie Irving is, and to trade him for three players I think the Brooklyn Nets is just making money out of him,
Any source with this or this is just another rumor?
Anyway, I don't know if adding Kyrie to the team will benefit them because PG and Kawhi are enough already to carry the team. Let's also take note that RoCo and Zubac are good supporting cast, and Powell might be their 3rd option because of how good he played when he is still in Portland. Well, if this trade will happen then I just hope that Kyrie, PG and Kawhi will fit to each other because for me, I don't think that it will be a perfect fit. My 2 cents.


Well, it is just Rumored that they want to make a trade like that but it is not official yet that is because it is just a rumor, but I have seen this article on the Bleacher Report site, just search for it there, and I think it will not be official if both teams will not confirm and approve in what they really want, I say whatever happens I think that the LA Lakers will have the bigger benefit for this trade if it happens if Kawhi Leonard or Paul George is still in injury or can not play there will be a Kyrie Irving backing them up, but they are lessening their defense strategy,
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June 23, 2022, 03:41:51 PM
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Rumors of Bradley Beal declining his $36.4 million Wizard's contract option. Money wise he should take the money but if he wants a real shot at the championships then he can reject it and look for better teams. But maybe another decent team will offer him a good amount of money for a longer.
I guess these keys players like him are starting to realize that it's not just all about the contract but also getting in a team that has a caliber to take the ring.

Hell yeah, this is a big money and it's already a good amount for the contract that he wants to sign. But I guess that offer will remain there until he finally accepts it or find a better deal from the other teams with good teammates.

Right and Beal going to play with others to build a 'super team' (although not a sure recipe to become a champion). He need help in Washington though, I think him and Westbrook that time looks solid as they went to the playoffs, but we already know what happened next. And so you can't blame him if he doesn't want to play again with Washington because of the players surrounding him.
But you know what?

Just like this season and the other past one, there have been super teams that were composed of good players, as in superstar players and we thought that they'll share a ring for those particular seasons.

I think it will still depend on the blend of the roster and the attitude of these great players to team up. Because even they're all superstars, there's a likely that they'll be beaten by a good team that don't have much superstars but has a great chemistry.

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June 23, 2022, 03:59:24 PM
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Who's got a good insight about the upcoming NBA draft? For the names of the draft prospects, here they are.
(https://www.nba.com/draft/2022/prospects)
There are also mock drafts that were done by various sources and sports media. What do you think about the common picks and your thoughts about this event?

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Who's got a good insight about the upcoming NBA draft? For the names of the draft prospects, here they are.
(https://www.nba.com/draft/2022/prospects)
There are also mock drafts that were done by various sources and sports media. What do you think about the common picks and your thoughts about this event?

I honestly have no idea who any of these kids are.  College being shut down in recent years because of covid made me lose all interest in watching or even keeping track of who the players are.  I probably won't even watch the draft as a result.  Usually there's all sorts of highlight reels from these players, but I haven't seen any...  I'm more interested in the trades that will be done around the draft as players I've heard of will undoubtedly be moved in the near future. 

The big news of the moment seems to be the Lakers and Hornets closing in on a deal for Russell Westbrook.  I have no idea how that situation will shake out.

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I see that it hasn't been discussed much but I think that Dallas did a really important job by adding Christian Wood to their roster. Dallas didn't give anything except rubbish to Houston while getting Wood. Even if the player doesn't meet the expectations it wouldn't be a big loss for Dallas. Wood would relieve Dallas about offense a lot. But when it comes to defense, I think that he really needs to improve himself this season. It isn't possible for him to make his presence felt in the playoffs with his current condition.

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That is right! Well, we can slightly say that they have some kind of advantage and that is because their head coach which is Steve Kerr is really an experienced basketball player during his time playing ball. Kerr made 5 rings during his time, 3 in Chicago Bulls and 2 in San Antonio Spurs and now 4 rings being a head coach in Golden State Warriors. He surely knows how to invest in some proper players and know how to utilize their each skills to make it a strength. Look at his roster now, it's hard to deny that they will be still dangerous in the upcoming 3 or 4 seasons minimum.

That is why the Warriors team is in good hands Steve Kerr not only showing potential in coaching but a good heart aswell, when shows respect and grieving for the mass shooting in Texas, and back on the game with the Dallas Mavericks,

Well Steve Kerr really is the sole coach for the Golden State Warriors but I think Joe Lacob's trust in his staff and coach was really important aswell it is not an easy task in giving financial support for the team as the owner of the Golden State Warriors, and on the night the Warriors won the Championship Coach Kerr give recognition to Bob Myers  in putting a great team I think every person that involves in developing the teams surely needs great salute, and respect,


Yes, that's how blessed the Warriors are as they have a kind and a good-hearted coach and a strict coach as well to make his team straighten up. I mean, anyone who helps the team surely deserves the credit and respect as they are also a vital reason on why the Warriors got the position they had now like the team's doctor which is the 1st person that Klay run into the moment they won the championship.

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June 23, 2022, 06:23:14 PM
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I think this has been the tradition of Lakers though, if I remember correctly, Kobe also initiated Pau Gasol's move to LA and then make make Howard move somewhere else as they are not in a good relationship.

And I think Lebron has the same mentally even before joining the Lakers. But I would have to agree that this has to be change. The organizations need to take over the players and not the other way around as it will be a disaster.
That's the culture of the Lakes, they have a star player and they will give him what he wants.

They gave everything to Kobe when he was still playing, and now they are giving Lebron everything.
Lebron have won a championship with the Lakers already, the management are already happy with that, so they are giving him the hand to do what he wants.
I wouldn't be shocked that they are fine with losing this year as well, they already got a ring, and it would be awesome if they could get another one, but if they can't, then that is fine because they are riding that ring even today. Sure they could do whatever Lebron asks, they have the money for it, Lakers are one of the most expensive teams in all of NBA, probably one of the most expensive in all sports clubs and that means they can spend money, or they could simply just not lose too much money.

I remember even during the period where they were losing, kobes last years and injury years, they were still making a profit, that should show you how much they would care about winning.
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The big news of the moment seems to be the Lakers and Hornets closing in on a deal for Russell Westbrook.  I have no idea how that situation will shake out.

Yeah, it looks like the Lakers are already looking at different deals to get rid of Westbrook as soon as possible. I also saw the news that the Lakers offered Westbrook, THT, and a 2026 first-round draft pick for Malcolm Brogdon. However, the Pacers rejected that offer. Besides that, Westbrook for Wall deal is still possible, but the problem is that the Rockets want to get a draft pick from the Lakers as well.

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as well as Kyrie already played with Lebron in Cleveland and they get along.
Did they not split because Kyrie was unhappy being with Lebron after they lost the championship? Sure they patched up their relationship off the court but that doesn't really mean they can play together again and do well. Kyrie will probably the dominant Alpha on that Lakers team if the trade happens and I'm not sure if an aging Lebron would be happy about that.

Kyrie left because he wants to be the main man on the Cavs team, he went to Boston thinking he could be the main man over there, but no, Brown and Tatum has already been 2 of the best Boston by the time. Kyrie had an attitude problem, If he have overcome that character and became matured enough to win another ring, I guess LeBron and him could get along well again just like how they bear the 73-9 GSW.

I think Kyrie in Boston boils down to respect, he didn't get that because of his attitude, I remember him shouting with Smart or even Brown because of some plays, and he was very frustrated. And that's why the Celtics management decided to trade him and it was a good idea.

And, it does really make sense if the Lakers would trader Davis coz he is most likely to get injured again and miss more than half of the season. worse the whole season.

I think Davis is still good to be a Lakers with Lebron, but yes, one thing against Davis is that he is prone to injury and that is something that the Lakers will have to think. It should be a good trade if they are willing to let go of Davis.
Kyrie comes off to me as a very selfish person. The Nets likely would have had a better seed in the playoffs and more wins in the regular season had Kyrie not been a bitch and got vaccinated. He missed half the damn season being selfish. We won't hear the Durant wants him traded, but i'll bet he has voiced his opinion behind closed doors.

Basketball is a TEAM sport, not an individual sport. These guys are paid literally MILLIONS of dollars. Get the damn vaccine and help your team out. Kyrie doesn't think like that.
I admit I'm also getting the same aura with Irving. I mean he's one good player but his ego is much bigger, the man had a signed contract with the Brooklyn Nets which clearly states that he's responsible to play with the team even if there's Covid-19 or not but he choose to neglect that responsibility and left the team in the middle where the team badly needs it because Durant was also injured and Harden was the one playing for the team, luckily he evaded with the team and got shelter with the Sixers.

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June 23, 2022, 07:20:18 PM
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It is "possible" for Lakers to get Kyrie. There is talks that Kyrie talked with Lebron to smooth things over, we all remember how he forced his way out of Cavs which caused them to not be good at all, and eventually resulted with Lebron leaving.

I guess that Lebron and Kyrie didn't "hate" each other, but they were not friends neither, and this talk may have been about that. If they could find a way to connect Westbrook and KD, that would be weird, they had plenty of fights over course of many years during Durants Warriors years. So, this is a very drama filled trade talk, which has a history, don't know if all of that could be all agreed upon before they can do it.

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June 23, 2022, 07:25:43 PM
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I agree that it would be a drama filled one, but also the one that would work out better for everyone. Westbrook is still a great person that can pass the ball, and he could rebound the ball very well for a guard as well. They would have Durant in the team that can score very well, and hopefully if he heals and be good, then they will have Ben Simmons who can defend very well. So this would work out well for Nets for sure. On the other hand Lakers would get Kyrie, who is a net positive and Westbrook was really terrible, so I am guessing that we are talking about Kyrie at least helping out Lebron a bit. All around good idea for both.

Drama can be fixed, remember how Kobe and Shaq almost got into a fight, even threw punches at each other, and remember how close of a friend they were later in life, so it wasn't really something terrible that can't be fixed. I feel like if they can, then Westbrook and Durant can as well.

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I see that it hasn't been discussed much but I think that Dallas did a really important job by adding Christian Wood to their roster. Dallas didn't give anything except rubbish to Houston while getting Wood. Even if the player doesn't meet the expectations it wouldn't be a big loss for Dallas. Wood would relieve Dallas about offense a lot. But when it comes to defense, I think that he really needs to improve himself this season. It isn't possible for him to make his presence felt in the playoffs with his current condition.

I think it was discussed, and it's a win-win for both. Wood has a good form shooting from outside, so mostly likely it will be included in his role there, Luka driving and kicking the ball for him. He plays good defense too and averaging at least 1 block per game.

For the Rockets, they still have a lot of young guys there, and it means that Sengun a 20 year old kid will be their starting center now.

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It is "possible" for Lakers to get Kyrie. There is talks that Kyrie talked with Lebron to smooth things over, we all remember how he forced his way out of Cavs which caused them to not be good at all, and eventually resulted with Lebron leaving.

I guess that Lebron and Kyrie didn't "hate" each other, but they were not friends neither, and this talk may have been about that. If they could find a way to connect Westbrook and KD, that would be weird, they had plenty of fights over course of many years during Durants Warriors years. So, this is a very drama filled trade talk, which has a history, don't know if all of that could be all agreed upon before they can do it.

Yes, lest we forget, there is the drama between Durant and Westbrook too. Specially when Durant left to join the Warriors and then Westbrook carrying the Thunder, having his best statistical seasons, breaking Big O's triple double record. So maybe there is still some animosity between the two who knows. But perhaps they've matured already after that and if that trade pushes through then there's nothing they can do but to play with each other and win a ring for both of them. But we will see, where Westbrook is going to land and if Irving is going to be on the trade block.

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June 23, 2022, 10:46:29 PM
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I see that it hasn't been discussed much but I think that Dallas did a really important job by adding Christian Wood to their roster. Dallas didn't give anything except rubbish to Houston while getting Wood. Even if the player doesn't meet the expectations it wouldn't be a big loss for Dallas. Wood would relieve Dallas about offense a lot. But when it comes to defense, I think that he really needs to improve himself this season. It isn't possible for him to make his presence felt in the playoffs with his current condition.

I think it was discussed, and it's a win-win for both. Wood has a good form shooting from outside, so mostly likely it will be included in his role there, Luka driving and kicking the ball for him. He plays good defense too and averaging at least 1 block per game.

For the Rockets, they still have a lot of young guys there, and it means that Sengun a 20 year old kid will be their starting center now.

Rockets are probably still gonna need a center.  I think they want sentences to play more the power forward role.  Don't be surprised if they go center at some point in the draft or in free agency make a run at someone like Mitchell robinson.

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June 23, 2022, 10:52:35 PM
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I see that it hasn't been discussed much but I think that Dallas did a really important job by adding Christian Wood to their roster. Dallas didn't give anything except rubbish to Houston while getting Wood. Even if the player doesn't meet the expectations it wouldn't be a big loss for Dallas. Wood would relieve Dallas about offense a lot. But when it comes to defense, I think that he really needs to improve himself this season. It isn't possible for him to make his presence felt in the playoffs with his current condition.

I think it was discussed, and it's a win-win for both. Wood has a good form shooting from outside, so mostly likely it will be included in his role there, Luka driving and kicking the ball for him. He plays good defense too and averaging at least 1 block per game.

For the Rockets, they still have a lot of young guys there, and it means that Sengun a 20 year old kid will be their starting center now.

Rockets would have been in a little more profit but I also agree that they didn't separate badly. I had the chance to watch Alperen live often while he was playing in Turkey. It is really not an easy job to be an MVP in the Turkish League. I think that Alperen is still not good enough physically now. If he improves himself about this then he can reach the capacity to become an all-star in 5-6 years.

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June 23, 2022, 11:30:38 PM
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Who's got a good insight about the upcoming NBA draft? For the names of the draft prospects, here they are.
(https://www.nba.com/draft/2022/prospects)
There are also mock drafts that were done by various sources and sports media. What do you think about the common picks and your thoughts about this event?

I honestly have no idea who any of these kids are.  College being shut down in recent years because of covid made me lose all interest in watching or even keeping track of who the players are.  I probably won't even watch the draft as a result.  Usually there's all sorts of highlight reels from these players, but I haven't seen any...  I'm more interested in the trades that will be done around the draft as players I've heard of will undoubtedly be moved in the near future. 
Yeah, the most interesting part as always will be the trades from team to team. I'm currently waiting for the draft and I'm just watching it, we've got someone who's supporting but he's out of the mock drafts and hopefully, he'll make it on the actual 30 minutes from now.

The big news of the moment seems to be the Lakers and Hornets closing in on a deal for Russell Westbrook.  I have no idea how that situation will shake out.
It seems that it's really big news. Well, after this draft for sure the news like this will come eventually and they're more interesting.

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