2025 NBA Season

[Reid]

In the other news, Jerry Sloan died. RIP

Found this out from Deron Williams as I was following him. RIP for the great coach.

“Very sad to hear about the passing of Coach Sloan this AM,” Williams wrote. “I’m praying for Tammy and their family during this time. I know things didn’t end well between us in Utah, however I’m glad that i got the chance to sit down with him before it was too late. Definitely something that would have haunted me for the rest of my life. Blessed that i got to play for him and learn so much from him during my 5 1/2 years in Utah. You knew he always had your back when you stepped out on that court.”

A sad day again for NBA.

Ah, I might misunderstood you then. Yeah that definitely wouldn't be fair. If they skip skip regular part that is left and just go for the playoss, it should best 8 teams from each conference , as always. having 12 or 16 teams in the quarantine is not a big difference anyway. After that, you can adjust how many games you want to be played in playoffs; whether it's best of 7, 5 or 3 doesn't matter so much, at least in those first rounds, but I would like to see finals in 7 games as always.

I have one more theory about this.
They want to continue the season and maybe use pay per view for enough money to continue the business.
While days are passing and Covid19 infected patients are slowing down they are going for playoffs.

That means ticket sales again if the government will let them open the domes for fans.
7 games will happen to maximize the profit.
Everything will always be about the money. Hoping I am wrong with this theory.

[Sanitough]

In the other news, Jerry Sloan died. RIP

Found this out from Deron Williams as I was following him. RIP for the great coach.

I read the news about Jerry Sloan but I can't seem to remember on what particular team he was coaching, but when I read the name Deron Williams here it instantly come into my mind that he was the coach of the Utah Jazz before that I follow because of Deron William.

I don't know where this guy is now, after he was traded with another team, his superstar status has begin sinking until he is already out in the NBA now.

I also extend my condolence even in this post only, RIP Jerry Sloan.

[freedomgo]

In the other news, Jerry Sloan died. RIP

Found this out from Deron Williams as I was following him. RIP for the great coach.

I read the news about Jerry Sloan but I can't seem to remember on what particular team he was coaching, but when I read the name Deron Williams here it instantly come into my mind that he was the coach of the Utah Jazz before that I follow because of Deron William.

I don't know where this guy is now, after he was traded with another team, his superstar status has begin sinking until he is already out in the NBA now.

I also extend my condolence even in this post only, RIP Jerry Sloan.

And according to him, his best years in NBA was in Utah.

'My best years were here in Utah,' former Jazz star Deron Williams says on trip back to Vivint Smart Home Arena

If not because of Injury problem, he could have stayed more with his team, injury can really kill a star's career, so maybe that's the reason why NBA decided to soften the NBA  to lower the risk of their players get injured.

[Reid]

I don't know where this guy is now, after he was traded with another team, his superstar status has begin sinking until he is already out in the NBA now.

If not because of Injury problem, he could have stayed more with his team, injury can really kill a star's career, so maybe that's the reason why NBA decided to soften the NBA  to lower the risk of their players get injured.

No it is not an injury problem.

I am a fan of this guy that is why I am looking for a reason and it seems like there is none.
Until I bumped into one years ago.

I have read this long story before but forgot some of it.
It was pointing out into one issue only which had been happening in his past.
Weight management.
He is a bulky guy which looks like full of carbs and not muscles.

His last team was the Cavs but it was in Dallas when I saw him slowing down.

[TheGreatPython]

Jerry Sloan was one of the best coaches NBA has ever seen, shame what happened with Jazz but he was in a very bad era and just got unlucky, there are plenty of basketball stars that was great players and in HOF without a ring, Jerry Sloan is the coach version of them.

Deron Williams didn't really go out because of his fatness per se (which I assume did played a big role) but because league basically moved towards more shooting point guards lately, even centers shoot nowadays so it made no sense to keep a player who barely could have shot from three and focused on just passes and going inside. There is really not that much need for a playmaking point guard nowadays and Deron was good in that regard.

I still remember him from being compared to Chris Paul who is as you can see sent and traded as well, even though Paul had much better threes and HOF level defense too. Of course his weight didn't really helped at all too.

[Captain Corporate]

 Deron Williams versus Chris Paul was one of the most epic talks of their early years, and you wouldn't believe it now but back in those days there was a ton of people who thought Deron Williams was much better player only because he was stronger and taller so he could go inside against other point guards whereas Chris Paul was smaller and weaker so he would be seen as the worse one between the two.

 Of course now we know thats not like that, Chris Paul had this hof life, after he moved to Clippers he basically just created a "t-mac/yao rockets" level of constant playoffs but never success type of story. All those lobs to Deandre and Blake and they were basically the most fun team to watch for couple years back to back, and he was the anchor of that team as well so we can't even compare their careers.

 In defense of Williams though, he had a lot of serious injuries back to back so he never really rocevered, that has to be one of the reasons why he became so worse all of a sudden since he never recovered, like Amare Stoudimire who was amazing but got injured and became bad.

[Oasisman]

 Deron Williams versus Chris Paul was one of the most epic talks of their early years, and you wouldn't believe it now but back in those days there was a ton of people who thought Deron Williams was much better player only because he was stronger and taller so he could go inside against other point guards whereas Chris Paul was smaller and weaker so he would be seen as the worse one between the two.

Deron was a better player than CP3 in their first 3 season against each other, and of course Deron has a better stats than CP3 while the Jazz are up 8-2 against the Jazz in that season.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/72602-why-deron-williams-is-better-than-chris-paul

Though, in the long run Deron has gradually lost his game specially when he got to Brooklyn where there are a lot of good players like Garnet, Pierce, and Johnson.
He suddenly became overrated, because when he was still in Utah, Sloan has made him almost the best point guard in the league during that time.
I don't know what happened to him, maybe he had injury or what, but CP3 just proved him he's better than Deron in the long run.

[Yaunfitda]

 Deron Williams versus Chris Paul was one of the most epic talks of their early years, and you wouldn't believe it now but back in those days there was a ton of people who thought Deron Williams was much better player only because he was stronger and taller so he could go inside against other point guards whereas Chris Paul was smaller and weaker so he would be seen as the worse one between the two.

Deron was a better player than CP3 in their first 3 season against each other, and of course Deron has a better stats than CP3 while the Jazz are up 8-2 against the Jazz in that season.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/72602-why-deron-williams-is-better-than-chris-paul

Though, in the long run Deron has gradually lost his game specially when he got to Brooklyn where there are a lot of good players like Garnet, Pierce, and Johnson.
He suddenly became overrated, because when he was still in Utah, Sloan has made him almost the best point guard in the league during that time.
I don't know what happened to him, maybe he had injury or what, but CP3 just proved him he's better than Deron in the long run.

Deron during his prime has one of the sickest cross-overs and yes I would say that early on he was the better player and yes he has the best time of his career with the Utah Jazz. But the problem is that his 'head' gets bigger wanted more freedom and then that's how the beef with Sloan started. And there where rumors that he forces Sloan to quit, and then Williams goes to the Nets. And it started the downfall of Deron. Rest is history.

But prior to Jerry Sloan passing, they have patch things up: https://www.nba.com/jazz/williams-sloan-put-past-where-it-belongs

[Reid]

Sam Smith using his aces now. 

"To come back in '98 and do what he did and basically walk away when he didn't have to, and then to pretend that he was the one that wanted to play and they forced him out? Who ever forces Michael Jordan out to do anything? Anyway, such a blatant lie, but hey, that's part of the mystique of Michael Jordan."

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/michael-jordan-told-blatant-lie-about-bulls-potential-return-for-seventh-title-says-jordan-rules-author/

This is just one of his statement about Jordan lies.
There's a lot more out there.
That includes the thought of this "Last Dance" as just flowing for Jordan's perspective.
We could see he had hit a lot of players and names here. But, how about their sides? Who will tell their story?

I am a Jordan fan but let's be real, some of it are difficult to believe.

[danherbias07]

 Deron Williams versus Chris Paul was one of the most epic talks of their early years, and you wouldn't believe it now but back in those days there was a ton of people who thought Deron Williams was much better player only because he was stronger and taller so he could go inside against other point guards whereas Chris Paul was smaller and weaker so he would be seen as the worse one between the two.

Yes, he also played in the Olympics and in All-Star.
If compared he is like Mike Bibby or Jason Williams in their prime.

The lovely thing about this guy is how he dribbles. It's like playing street ball and you could see how he breaks ankles.
Penetration capability, one of his strengths which not a lot of pointguard can do.

[Rosilito]

Sam Smith using his aces now. 

"To come back in '98 and do what he did and basically walk away when he didn't have to, and then to pretend that he was the one that wanted to play and they forced him out? Who ever forces Michael Jordan out to do anything? Anyway, such a blatant lie, but hey, that's part of the mystique of Michael Jordan."

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/michael-jordan-told-blatant-lie-about-bulls-potential-return-for-seventh-title-says-jordan-rules-author/

This is just one of his statement about Jordan lies.
There's a lot more out there.
That includes the thought of this "Last Dance" as just flowing for Jordan's perspective.
We could see he had hit a lot of players and names here. But, how about their sides? Who will tell their story?

I am a Jordan fan but let's be real, some of it are difficult to believe.

Well... He's right on the other hand but if these stuff were true why would Jordan had to act like some spoiled brat in his narrative?
I don't get it, is it because he has the every spotlight on and he wanna be treated as someone who usually won't do something that would ruined his image? You know, avoiding controversies (well, yes, who would've like it though), so probably it might be the reason or am I just being shallow

As I see, if these opinion/stories back then continues to come out, more and more people related to Bulls and Jordan's back then journey would continue to pop out who happen to know the so-called truth, and the lies Jordan spitting out. So where would this lead in to?

Nevertheless, it might be a lie or whatever is that, it won't dictate the entirety of Jordan greatness as a basketball player.

[Reid]

Well... He's right on the other hand but if these stuff were true why would Jordan had to act like some spoiled brat in his narrative?
I don't get it, is it because he has the every spotlight on and he wanna be treated as someone who usually won't do something that would ruined his image? You know, avoiding controversies (well, yes, who would've like it though), so probably it might be the reason or am I just being shallow

As I see, if these opinion/stories back then continues to come out, more and more people related to Bulls and Jordan's back then journey would continue to pop out who happen to know the so-called truth, and the lies Jordan spitting out. So where would this lead in to?

Nevertheless, it might be a lie or whatever is that, it won't dictate the entirety of Jordan greatness as a basketball player.

All I know is that, he needs to keep that good profile of him.
Reasons are, he is still making money out of Nike and if damaged could cut some ties or lose sales.

I might watch this again with a different view.
As of now, I finished it with all the Jordan goodness. But now, there is doubt.
I love the man when he is on the floor but there are missing pieces when he is on the locker room.  
We know it should stay in the past, but I am just intrigued. 

You got some good points though, those are not shallow.

[Sanitough]

 Deron Williams versus Chris Paul was one of the most epic talks of their early years, and you wouldn't believe it now but back in those days there was a ton of people who thought Deron Williams was much better player only because he was stronger and taller so he could go inside against other point guards whereas Chris Paul was smaller and weaker so he would be seen as the worse one between the two.

Yes, he also played in the Olympics and in All-Star.
If compared he is like Mike Bibby or Jason Williams in their prime.

The lovely thing about this guy is how he dribbles. It's like playing street ball and you could see how he breaks ankles.
Penetration capability, one of his strengths which not a lot of pointguard can do.

A lot of fans miss him but that is sports, a lot of superstars who retired early because they cannot longer deliver based on what is expected to them, it's just so unfortunate that he retires so early, we could have seen him playing until now, this tells that it's really important that as an athlete, they need to take care of their health and it's just nice to see that Lebron James is setting as an example for everyone, at his age, he can still an MVP caliber and he get smarter and smarter as season pass by.

[btc_angela]

 Deron Williams versus Chris Paul was one of the most epic talks of their early years, and you wouldn't believe it now but back in those days there was a ton of people who thought Deron Williams was much better player only because he was stronger and taller so he could go inside against other point guards whereas Chris Paul was smaller and weaker so he would be seen as the worse one between the two.

Yes, he also played in the Olympics and in All-Star.
If compared he is like Mike Bibby or Jason Williams in their prime.

The lovely thing about this guy is how he dribbles. It's like playing street ball and you could see how he breaks ankles.
Penetration capability, one of his strengths which not a lot of pointguard can do.

Right, he has that cross over and breaking ankles that every basketball envies and he can do euro step as well.

I haven't follow his career after the Utah Jazz, yes he did play in the Nets but he never had the same success stat wise when he was under Sloan. Anyways, rest in peace coach, I'm sure you will not be forgotten and could be consider as one of the best coach ever.

[Rosilito]

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All I know is that, he needs to keep that good profile of him.
Reasons are, he is still making money out of Nike and if damaged could cut some ties or lose sales.

So he needed to risk being offensive (like what Jordan Peterson said) in his narrative over some entitlement. It would be totally regrettable if he totally lost the brotherhood he already formed all throughout his journey with the bulls. One more thing, it is often that people falls to misconceptions due to cognitive dissonance or biases, so he might be needing to buy that cheap attitude (if those side stories were true), so he won't lose the brand, get it .

I might watch this again with a different view.
As of now, I finished it with all the Jordan goodness. But now, there is doubt.
I love the man when he is on the floor but there are missing pieces when he is on the locker room.  
We know it should stay in the past, but I am just intrigued.  

You got some good points though, those are not shallow.

Yeah, there are still loose ends. Bet there are more interesting stories to come.

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A lot of fans miss him but that is sports, a lot of superstars who retired early because they cannot longer deliver based on what is expected to them, it's just so unfortunate that he retires so early, we could have seen him playing until now, this tells that it's really important that as an athlete, they need to take care of their health and it's just nice to see that Lebron James is setting as an example for everyone, at his age, he can still an MVP caliber and he get smarter and smarter as season pass by.

Did he retire already? I don't think he did it yet. AFAIK, he still a free agent (correct me if I am wrong ). But I see no plans of him getting back on the league, so yeah... technically he's retired.

He slowed down, lost his minutes, and lost the interest to play the game ever again. As mentioned by @Reid as well, it wasn't about the injury that holds him down from playing but the weight management he fails to handle.

LBJ always invests for his health care. He gives his health importance, and care as much as he do with basketball. I remember when Conor McGregor admired LBJ's investment with his health.

[stadus]

Did he retire already? I don't think he did it yet. AFAIK, he still a free agent (correct me if I am wrong ). But I see no plans of him getting back on the league, so yeah... technically he's retired.

He is not officially retired yet, I haven't read any news regarding that but let's just assume that he has retired already as its less likely to see him back in the NBA again, if he can't survive when he was still younger, how can he survive at his age now.

[JanpriX]

Currently, there's news going around saying that NBA is in talks with The Walt Disney Company regarding the continuation of its season at Disney's ESPN Wide World of Sports Complex in Orlando, Florida. And they're planning to do it in late July.

This will be the single site for games, practices and housing for all the players. They are positive that this site will be able to hold all the requirements as they have three arenas and ample hotel accommodation within its 220-acre land area. Hoping that these negotiations go smoothly as I'm eagerly waiting for the league to resume. 

[Reid]

So he needed to risk being offensive (like what Jordan Peterson said) in his narrative over some entitlement. It would be totally regrettable if he totally lost the brotherhood he already formed all throughout his journey with the bulls. One more thing, it is often that people falls to misconceptions due to cognitive dissonance or biases, so he might be needing to buy that cheap attitude (if those side stories were true), so he won't lose the brand, get it .

I do think that is the best he could do.
He called Pippen selfish and so does Rodman.
Then pointing fingers to Horace Grant. He might not be the type to bullshit anyone. MJ is just trying to be him.
I realized that later on.
He did hurt people forcing to be like his caliber which is bad leadership. They have their own strengths as players and cannot be like Mike.

He slowed down, lost his minutes, and lost the interest to play the game ever again. As mentioned by @Reid as well, it wasn't about the injury that holds him down from playing but the weight management he fails to handle.

This are issues for most of the players, they need to keep their weight accordingly.

LBJ always invests for his health care. He gives his health importance, and care as much as he do with basketball. I remember when Conor McGregor admired LBJ's investment with his health.

Yeah, and look at him. I never saw LBJ with a really bad injury except for the last one which is normal since he is getting older.

[Rosilito]

Currently, there's news going around saying that NBA is in talks with The Walt Disney Company regarding the continuation of its season at Disney's ESPN Wide World of Sports Complex in Orlando, Florida. And they're planning to do it in late July.

This will be the single site for games, practices and housing for all the players. They are positive that this site will be able to hold all the requirements as they have three arenas and ample hotel accommodation within its 220-acre land area. Hoping that these negotiations go smoothly as I'm eagerly waiting for the league to resume.  

No more kind of homecourt advantage feels in the playoffs if this happens , and probably no fans allowed here, which makes me wonder how intense the game would turn out here.

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I do think that is the best he could do.
He called Pippen selfish and so does Rodman.
Then pointing fingers to Horace Grant. He might not be the type to bullshit anyone. MJ is just trying to be him.
I realized that later on.
He did hurt people forcing to be like his caliber which is bad leadership. They have their own strengths as players and cannot be like Mike.

He's very tough to get along. In comparison to leadership with LBJ, well, MJ is very far. I prefer to be in a team with a leader which I could play my best with appreciation. No wonder why there are some resentments flowing around MJ. Well, I still appreciate his dedication to make his team a competitive one he just did it or mean it in a wrong way, sadly .

He slowed down, lost his minutes, and lost the interest to play the game ever again. As mentioned by @Reid as well, it wasn't about the injury that holds him down from playing but the weight management he fails to handle.

This are issues for most of the players, they need to keep their weight accordingly.

LBJ always invests for his health care. He gives his health importance, and care as much as he do with basketball. I remember when Conor McGregor admired LBJ's investment with his health.

Yeah, and look at him. I never saw LBJ with a really bad injury except for the last one which is normal since he is getting older.

In addition, he's playing smart and always alert on to where he was going to avoid unnecessary/unforced injury. Rookies need to look how LBJ handle his game specially Zion.

[tbterryboy]

Jordan didn't really lied about being forced to retire. He just said he wants to work with Phil Jackson and Phil knew that Jerry Krause didn't want him at all, so that would mean that Phil would come back (which he had chance to) in spite of Jerry Krause not wanting him there and when your GM hates you, your job as Head Coach will be very difficult, hell you could even get fired for not being even above average let alone be bad.

Moreover, even if Phil agreed to come back and even if Jordan agreed to come back, you had a trouble of Pippen, how could you pay him the money he deserves when there is this HUGE contract of Jordan that covers most of the cap anyway. So, Pippen would have been asked to just play for one year for a future profit and we saw that in 98 that wasn't something he liked.