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[retreat]

Alonso also drove a great race. Verstappen was allowed to start from Pole Position, but was gone like a devil and after the first corner it was already impossible to keep up. Perhaps a bit premature to draw conclusions, but the new car from RedBull seems to be fine again and the engine has also performed excellently. The rest of the field won't have any chances in these circumstances if Max keeps driving like this, but we still have a lot of races ahead of us so we'll have to wait and see. I don't know what Perez's role will be, he will again function as a kind of wingman for Max to thwart the rest as much as possible so that they cannot get close to Max in the fight for the world championship.

That's right, it looks like Red Bull will be back in the lead this season as their cars are already pretty good and it seems some other manufacturers are having problems with their cars and their performance is not up to what the fans are expecting. Especially Ferrari, they experienced quite a lot of bouncing on their car and caused Sainz to worry and miss several opportunities.

But even so it looks like it will be an exciting season, because we see that names like Alonso, Stroll and Hamilton are showing very good performances and I think that will make for quite exciting races in the coming races.

[swogerino]

The scariest point is that this is even Red Bull's first look in the season. I mean they are able to win a race so comfortably at the beginning of the season already and they will continue to improve this car also.

When we think about this we can clearly say that Red Bull are unbeatable once again. I still kept my hopes up about Ferrari to make a good start. I expected the same competition between Leclerc and Verstappen in this race just as they had against each other last season. But Leclerc was falling behind in the first laps already. In addition, Leclerc couldn't even finish the race. How can Ferrari still have a big issue like engine failure? What did they do in the whole season break for god's sake?

By the way I was really impressed by Alonso's amazing drive today. He definitely deserved the podium and I'm excited to see him having a solid season this time.

It was a problem with the battery,they didn't like it before the race so they changed the battery but in the end it did not work out well for Leclerc.This track was one of the faster tracks and with a lot of corners and is suited to Redbull more than any other car.Now we are heading into Saudi Arabia and that is a completely different track there where Ferrari last time put a really strong fight against Redbull and I am expecting them to do the same during this upcoming race also.If Ferrari still continues to have reliability issues into this second race of the season then it is good bye for competition here as Redbull will most likely win this F1 season several races before the last one.

[püsür]

Alonso also drove a great race. Verstappen was allowed to start from Pole Position, but was gone like a devil and after the first corner it was already impossible to keep up. Perhaps a bit premature to draw conclusions, but the new car from RedBull seems to be fine again and the engine has also performed excellently. The rest of the field won't have any chances in these circumstances if Max keeps driving like this, but we still have a lot of races ahead of us so we'll have to wait and see. I don't know what Perez's role will be, he will again function as a kind of wingman for Max to thwart the rest as much as possible so that they cannot get close to Max in the fight for the world championship.

Redbull has again built a superhuman machine. Congratulations to max in advance for the championship. Other teams also stated that they accept this situation in their statements. Aston Martin said last year that we will be in the championship fight within 100 races. They may reach this level earlier than expected. Lawrence Stroll is a businessman who really got his grip on it. They took the podium comfortably with alonso's experience and ambition. Yesterday alonso looked at least 5 years younger. Ferrari is Ferrari again. No words needed. It looks like sainz can't improve anymore. Leclerc fell victim to the vehicle. This kid should take Perez's seat in 2025 or replace Alonso if he retires in 2025.

[emrecemsan]

Alonso looks really promising for this season. It is thanks to the huge development in Aston Martin's car first of all of course. But Alonso is one of the amazing drivers in F1 history and he is benefiting from having a car like this in a great way already. Being on podium in his first race already must have felt incredible for him. By the way Stroll really worried me by touching Alonso from back in the first moments of the race already. He could have made Alonso's race really difficult there.

It is a horrible start for Ferraris of course. Especially Leclerc had a disastrous race. But I hope we don't see the continuation of this kind of problems. They are already far behind Red Bull and they can't afford having the same problems as a plus again.

[coinlocket$]

Alonso looks really promising for this season. It is thanks to the huge development in Aston Martin's car first of all of course.

Aston Martin got a big boost this year and the major reason is that they got some RBR engineers and they used some of their old cars' ideas...

[swogerino]

Alonso looks really promising for this season. It is thanks to the huge development in Aston Martin's car first of all of course.

Aston Martin got a big boost this year and the major reason is that they got some RBR engineers and they used some of their old cars' ideas...

If that is the case then I doubt they will be fighting to win races for next year as for this one with that performance of their car I don't think they can win any.This car is entertaining to drive and to give Alonso a couple of podiums as they managed to get to the podium despite the bad start they had in the race where they had to recover on track and not on pit stop but that's all that is capable,Redbull is on another planet which makes this season looks so gloomy for us F1 fans who want intense action and not a Max Verstappen who drives around the track as I don't think he was racing in the first race of the season.

[Luzin]

WSBK Mandalika, I read two fracture injuries occurred in this race. Van der Mark in race two hit the "highside" and broke two fingers. Meanwhile, Loris Baz suffered a broken ankle and calf. Loris Baz suffered an incident of being hit by Kawasaki Racing rider Alex Lowes. It happened when Baz wanted to enter from the outside at the right-hand corner.

Source: https://id.motorsport.com/wsbk/news/wsbk-indonesia-baz-van-der-mark-patah-tulang/10440389/

[Davian144]

The Gasgas Tech3 Racing team launched their Livery for the 2023 season yesterday and the mooneyVR46 Racing team has also launched their livery for this season. I see that the colors and textures haven't changed much on Valentino Rossi's team, but it's still good enough to color this year's MotoGP event, as well as the Gasgas Tech3 Racing team, which is now more dominant in red due to their main sponsor, even though the team uses motorbikes from KTM manufacturer. _motogp

[Slow death]

Alonso also drove a great race. Verstappen was allowed to start from Pole Position, but was gone like a devil and after the first corner it was already impossible to keep up. Perhaps a bit premature to draw conclusions, but the new car from RedBull seems to be fine again and the engine has also performed excellently. The rest of the field won't have any chances in these circumstances if Max keeps driving like this, but we still have a lot of races ahead of us so we'll have to wait and see. I don't know what Perez's role will be, he will again function as a kind of wingman for Max to thwart the rest as much as possible so that they cannot get close to Max in the fight for the world championship.

That's right, it looks like Red Bull will be back in the lead this season as their cars are already pretty good and it seems some other manufacturers are having problems with their cars and their performance is not up to what the fans are expecting. Especially Ferrari, they experienced quite a lot of bouncing on their car and caused Sainz to worry and miss several opportunities.

But even so it looks like it will be an exciting season, because we see that names like Alonso, Stroll and Hamilton are showing very good performances and I think that will make for quite exciting races in the coming races.

speaking of Alonso and Hamilton, the bookmakers are giving odds of @9.50 in case alonso wins the Saudi Arabian Grand Prix Race and for Hamilton the bookmakers are giving odds of @26.00 that is simply saying that Hamilton has no chance to win the Saudi Arabian Grand Prix, and guess who is the bookmaker's favorite to win the Saudi Arabian Grand Prix? the favorite of bookmakers Is Verstappen with odds of @1.55, the Saudi Arabian Grand Prix will take place on March 17th to 19th, I'm thinking of betting on Verstappen's victory, but as I see this odd being low I'll include him in my parlay with other games, I don't know which games yet, I'll think

[tokeweed]

Now Red Bull is racing in different league. Russel expect that they should win all races this season and there is no chances for others to fight against them. Other teams only can fight to become best of the rest. It's so good to see Alonso on podium and I think he can fight for win in some races.
Mclaren looks so disappointing. And Ocon - how you can get penalty 3 times in one race, I never saw such thing.

I wonder what's going on with Vettel rn...  Lol.  He's prolly giving his wife a hard time for giving him hints that he should retire from F1 as Aston Martin doesn't look like a team who could put him on podiums.    Just one more season and he would've reaped the profits of his labor with the team.

And yeah, looks like I wouldn't be making a point of dropping everything else to watch F1.  Not worth it anymore as it looks like it's gonna be another domination of Verstappen and RBR.

[LTU_btc]

I wonder what's going on with Vettel rn...  Lol.  He's prolly giving his wife a hard time for giving him hints that he should retire from F1 as Aston Martin doesn't look like a team who could put him on podiums.    Just one more season and he would've reaped the profits of his labor with the team.

I also thought about Vettel while watching race and that would be interesting to see him in current Aston Martin together with Alsonso. But last season it looked like he lost interest in F1 and probably even very competetive car would bring it back.

[retreat]

I wonder what's going on with Vettel rn...  Lol.  He's prolly giving his wife a hard time for giving him hints that he should retire from F1 as Aston Martin doesn't look like a team who could put him on podiums.    Just one more season and he would've reaped the profits of his labor with the team.

I also thought about Vettel while watching race and that would be interesting to see him in current Aston Martin together with Alsonso. But last season it looked like he lost interest in F1 and probably even very competetive car would bring it back.

From this we can see that losing confidence and losing interest in competing is a big problem for drivers, and that's what happened to Daniel Ricciardo in my opinion, because after leaving Red Bull and joining McLaren his performance didn't improve, even Red Bull officials said that he had lost his love for F1. And conversely, Alonso in the last race proved that with strong determination and a supportive team, he still deserves to be able to fight with younger drivers like Verstappen and others and get on the podium.

[Juggy777]

I wonder what's going on with Vettel rn...  Lol.  He's prolly giving his wife a hard time for giving him hints that he should retire from F1 as Aston Martin doesn't look like a team who could put him on podiums.    Just one more season and he would've reaped the profits of his labor with the team.

I also thought about Vettel while watching race and that would be interesting to see him in current Aston Martin together with Alsonso. But last season it looked like he lost interest in F1 and probably even very competetive car would bring it back.

@tokeweed it seems that each and every Vettel fan is agreeing with you, but sadly he didn’t stick around otherwise I too believe that this podium spot belonged to him. Lastly I feel that his failure while driving for Ferrari had crushed his confidence, and post that he never really recovered even after moving on from them.

[Luzin]

the mooneyVR46 Racing team has also launched their livery for this season. I see that the colors and textures haven't changed much on Valentino Rossi's team, but it's still good enough to color this year's MotoGP event, as well as the Gasgas Tech3 Racing team, which is now more dominant in red due to their main sponsor, even though the team uses motorbikes from KTM manufacturer. _motogp

New news about the Mooney VR46 Team. They are currently opening up the opportunity to join Yamaha. This is also because Yamaha only had one team as RNF moved to Aprilia. Even though the Mooney VR46 Team still has a contract with Ducati this season, of course they open up that opportunity so that Yamaha can prepare for next season. The Mooney VR46 Team provided conditions for Yamaha for them to be given a good bike. Of course it is still next year if it is realized. If that happens then they could reduce the dominance of the Ducati, it will make the race more interesting.

[tokeweed]

I wonder what's going on with Vettel rn...  Lol.  He's prolly giving his wife a hard time for giving him hints that he should retire from F1 as Aston Martin doesn't look like a team who could put him on podiums.    Just one more season and he would've reaped the profits of his labor with the team.

I also thought about Vettel while watching race and that would be interesting to see him in current Aston Martin together with Alsonso. But last season it looked like he lost interest in F1 and probably even very competetive car would bring it back.

@tokeweed it seems that each and every Vettel fan is agreeing with you, but sadly he didn’t stick around otherwise I too believe that this podium spot belonged to him. Lastly I feel that his failure while driving for Ferrari had crushed his confidence, and post that he never really recovered even after moving on from them.

His failure in Ferrari is partly due to him and the team.  It's never really just about the driver or the team.  Imagine if Vettel was acquired at Mercedes and it was Hamilton who was at Ferrari.  Lmao.  I'm pretty sure Vettel would be at podiums while the weekly team radio compilation from Ferrari would be one for the history books.  Lolol.  

I wonder what's going on with Vettel rn...  Lol.  He's prolly giving his wife a hard time for giving him hints that he should retire from F1 as Aston Martin doesn't look like a team who could put him on podiums.    Just one more season and he would've reaped the profits of his labor with the team.

I also thought about Vettel while watching race and that would be interesting to see him in current Aston Martin together with Alsonso. But last season it looked like he lost interest in F1 and probably even very competetive car would bring it back.

Seriously tho, I think Vettel had already decided to quit before his two year contract with Aston Martin ended.  Would the performance of the car at his second year mattered for him to reconsider retirement is an open question.  I think he would've given it another couple of years if it looked promising imho.  Just sad seeing him go...

[Captain Corporate]

Leave it to my dumb mind, today was a sad day for my wife, so to make her happy I looked at tickets to go see a show in the future, sure wouldn't make her happy right now, but it would be a good time spent to see whats out there, and I bought a ticket to exact date of the next race. Totally forgot about the race. And this one is super important because we have seen how amazing Red Bull is, but would they have any issues? Plus what about the whole ferrari, aston martin, Mercedes duel, I agree that it doesn't look much like a duel right now, but on second race everything could change drastically too.

[swogerino]

Leave it to my dumb mind, today was a sad day for my wife, so to make her happy I looked at tickets to go see a show in the future, sure wouldn't make her happy right now, but it would be a good time spent to see whats out there, and I bought a ticket to exact date of the next race. Totally forgot about the race. And this one is super important because we have seen how amazing Red Bull is, but would they have any issues? Plus what about the whole ferrari, aston martin, Mercedes duel, I agree that it doesn't look much like a duel right now, but on second race everything could change drastically too.

I don't think the span time of 2 weeks can make any team to change drastically but for sure we can see if they are on the right road to improvement of their cars.Aston Martin should start from a good basis like should be the case for Ferrari also as they don't need to undertake radical changes to their cars and they can move in step by step.For Mercedes is a complete story,they need to think outside the box immediately to start applying radical changes,as Hamilton said together with Wolf that we have a lot to work on and we must start immediately.

Redbull so far are racing in another competition,against each other as from the first race we saw so far they have no rivals and most likely that would be the case even in the upcoming race.

[Zackgeno96]

What total dominance from Verstappen this weekend. Very impressive how much impression he has made again, but are we waiting for that as a Formula 1 fan? everyone likes it much more if other drivers also start winning races and that the differences become smaller at the top of the standings. It is very early to draw conclusions, but if RedBull does not experience any technical problems, I think that the world title will become a prey for Verstappen. In any case, Mercedes was already a lot better in this race than in the whole of last season. I think Hamilton can still win a race here and there.

[FanEagle]

I wonder what's going on with Vettel rn...  Lol.  He's prolly giving his wife a hard time for giving him hints that he should retire from F1 as Aston Martin doesn't look like a team who could put him on podiums.    Just one more season and he would've reaped the profits of his labor with the team.

I also thought about Vettel while watching race and that would be interesting to see him in current Aston Martin together with Alsonso. But last season it looked like he lost interest in F1 and probably even very competetive car would bring it back.

@tokeweed it seems that each and every Vettel fan is agreeing with you, but sadly he didn’t stick around otherwise I too believe that this podium spot belonged to him. Lastly I feel that his failure while driving for Ferrari had crushed his confidence, and post that he never really recovered even after moving on from them.

One thing I would miss about that is the fact that Lance Stroll would keep his job no matter what, which means that Alonso wouldn't be in Aston Martin if Vettel stayed, and who knows maybe he wouldn't even find a team. So there is a chance that we either see Vettel or Alonso, and missing any of them is a bad feeling.

A greater one would be both of them with this car on the same team, now that would be a season to watch of course but it would be impossible, Stroll literally got back after he broke his hands and had pins in his arm, dude really wants to race. All in all I am suspecting that Vettel made his peace when leaving, and he must feel happy and not regretting the decision.

[retreat]

What total dominance from Verstappen this weekend. Very impressive how much impression he has made again, but are we waiting for that as a Formula 1 fan? everyone likes it much more if other drivers also start winning races and that the differences become smaller at the top of the standings. It is very early to draw conclusions, but if RedBull does not experience any technical problems, I think that the world title will become a prey for Verstappen. In any case, Mercedes was already a lot better in this race than in the whole of last season. I think Hamilton can still win a race here and there.

From the last races we can see that Verstappen and Red Bull have improved in terms of performance and are already competing at a different level compared to the other drivers and teams. I think that if Red Bull's performance is maintained and even improved, it will not be impossible for Verstappen and Red Bull to become world champions. But that doesn't mean other drivers and teams can't compete with Red Bull, the most obvious example is how Alonso and Aston Martin managed to improve their performance and managed to get on the podium. So you could say that if Red Bull went a little wrong with their car it could be a nightmare for them.