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August 26, 2017, 06:05:52 AM
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I have a strange bug on 1.10.1 wallet on win 10 x64. Wallet crashes when trying to sync.
I already had a light wallet 1.10. Then updated to 1.10.1, made backup and moved %appdata%\byteball folder.
Started Byteball, created a new wallet, chose full wallet type.
Now start wallet - it tries to sync and wallet closes after 30-40 seconds. No error screens, app just closes.
Tried from 2 user account on same machine - the same result - app closes.
Whats wrong? Does anybody have such problem?

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August 26, 2017, 06:23:41 AM
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Could someone explain how to backup black bytes in the Windows wallet?

Your whole wallet is backed up using the menu function (upper left button) on the small expenses wallet page.
Then click settings>full backup>set up a password>repeat the password>export (indicate where you would like the backup located.)

Don't know if this answers your question or not...



If this ensures that also my black bytes are backupped, yes. Thanks.
I understand that the process must be repeated each time that new blackbytes are received (e.g., after each airdrop).

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August 26, 2017, 07:06:24 AM
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I was having some blackbytes in my wallet.I took a backup before the last airdrop.Today i recovered wallet using 'full backup' option and the blackbytes that i had before airdrop are still there but blackbytes that i received after 7th August are LOST.I was told that recovering though 'full backup' also recovers blackbytes but this doesn't happen in my case  Shocked
please someone tell me here how much is 8 GBB worth?I lost 8 GBB today even i restored using full backup.  Undecided
Blackbytes are a very smart implementation of a private asset, but they aren't very intuitive to use. I've experimented a bit on how they work, and created a Byteball: Blackbytes FAQ thread with my results.
Quick fix: you can ask Tonych to re-send your Blackbytes from the last airdrop. And indeed, you need to make a full backup after every transaction with Blackbytes, both sending and receiving!

I have read that first few thousand wallets will receive free 100000 coins. Is that true or abandon idea?
Read more carefully: the first 100 million wallets will receive 100000 bytes. This airdrop hasn't started yet.
If you're new to Byteball, I'd be happy to send you 100000 bytes to play with. If you want that: read my Byteball: Blackbytes FAQ, pair with my wallet, and say hi.

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August 26, 2017, 07:13:30 AM
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I was having some blackbytes in my wallet.I took a backup before the last airdrop.Today i recovered wallet using 'full backup' option and the blackbytes that i had before airdrop are still there but blackbytes that i received after 7th August are LOST.I was told that recovering though 'full backup' also recovers blackbytes but this doesn't happen in my case  Shocked
please someone tell me here how much is 8 GBB worth?I lost 8 GBB today even i restored using full backup.  Undecided
Blackbytes are a very smart implementation of a private asset, but they aren't very intuitive to use. I've experimented a bit on how they work, and created a Byteball: Blackbytes FAQ thread with my results.
Quick fix: you can ask Tonych to re-send your Blackbytes from the last airdrop. And indeed, you need to make a full backup after every transaction with Blackbytes, both sending and receiving!

I have read that first few thousand wallets will receive free 100000 coins. Is that true or abandon idea?
Read more carefully: the first 100 million wallets will receive 100000 bytes. This airdrop hasn't started yet.
If you're new to Byteball, I'd be happy to send you 100000 bytes to play with. If you want that: read my Byteball: Blackbytes FAQ, pair with my wallet, and say hi.

All the address invitations in your FAQ say "new" so they are used. Can you add some more for your offer please or PM me an invitation code? Thank you.

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August 26, 2017, 07:35:27 AM
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If i have in my byteball wallet some coins do i still need to sign it with some bitcoin address or i get new bytes without it?
I mean if you own some and dont wanna move youre bitcoins from exchange then you still partipiate from distibution?
You'll receive 10% airdrop on your bytes. But, to receive Blackbytes, you'll need to link an Bitcoin address by talking to the Transition Bot. That address can be empty.
If you don't know how to sign a message, PM me your Byteball address and I'll get you a signature from an empty Bitcoin address.

Thank you, i read and started to think that maybe i still need to sign my byteball addresses that have some coins on it to recive - you cleared that i just misread a littlebit all the things for this airdrop.

 
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August 26, 2017, 07:44:12 AM
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Saw news about the improvement of the oracle, good work

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August 26, 2017, 07:52:53 AM
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I was having some blackbytes in my wallet.I took a backup before the last airdrop.Today i recovered wallet using 'full backup' option and the blackbytes that i had before airdrop are still there but blackbytes that i received after 7th August are LOST.I was told that recovering though 'full backup' also recovers blackbytes but this doesn't happen in my case  Shocked
please someone tell me here how much is 8 GBB worth?I lost 8 GBB today even i restored using full backup.  Undecided
Blackbytes are a very smart implementation of a private asset, but they aren't very intuitive to use. I've experimented a bit on how they work, and created a Byteball: Blackbytes FAQ thread with my results.
Quick fix: you can ask Tonych to re-send your Blackbytes from the last airdrop. And indeed, you need to make a full backup after every transaction with Blackbytes, both sending and receiving!

I have read that first few thousand wallets will receive free 100000 coins. Is that true or abandon idea?
Read more carefully: the first 100 million wallets will receive 100000 bytes. This airdrop hasn't started yet.
If you're new to Byteball, I'd be happy to send you 100000 bytes to play with. If you want that: read my Byteball: Blackbytes FAQ, pair with my wallet, and say hi.

All the address invitations in your FAQ say "new" so they are used. Can you add some more for your offer please or PM me an invitation code? Thank you.
Weird, as they didn't have a wallet paired with mine. I've replaced them and will PM you one too.

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August 26, 2017, 08:35:14 AM
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Could someone explain how to backup black bytes in the Windows wallet?

Your whole wallet is backed up using the menu function (upper left button) on the small expenses wallet page.
Then click settings>full backup>set up a password>repeat the password>export (indicate where you would like the backup located.)

Don't know if this answers your question or not...



If this ensures that also my black bytes are backupped, yes. Thanks.
I understand that the process must be repeated each time that new blackbytes are received (e.g., after each airdrop).

Are you sure we have to do the back up thing after we recieve any more blackbytes into our wallet? Seems a bit tedious to do.
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August 26, 2017, 08:38:39 AM
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I have a strange bug on 1.10.1 wallet on win 10 x64. Wallet crashes when trying to sync.
I already had a light wallet 1.10. Then updated to 1.10.1, made backup and moved %appdata%\byteball folder.
Started Byteball, created a new wallet, chose full wallet type.
Now start wallet - it tries to sync and wallet closes after 30-40 seconds. No error screens, app just closes.
Tried from 2 user account on same machine - the same result - app closes.
Whats wrong? Does anybody have such problem?

I can confirm the problem.
I just had a Surface tab temporarily available and wanted
to make yesterday a test (sync performance -> full wallet on fresh win 10 + fresh Byteball installation).
Wallet crashes while synchronization is 0%, about < minute after the start.
Can be reproduced with multiple installations with 1.10 and 1.10.1

Microsoft Surface Pro 4 (Intel Core m3, 4GB RAM, SSD) fresh WIN 10
What kind of device do you use?
I thought it might be a device-specific problem (Core m3 problem??).
Because about 4 weeks ago I had a Surface Pro with i5, since there was this Probeme not...

Message is purely informal (if someone has similar problems) - I run my wallet on other devices (they work without problems)..
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August 26, 2017, 09:58:43 AM
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I was having some blackbytes in my wallet.I took a backup before the last airdrop.Today i recovered wallet using 'full backup' option and the blackbytes that i had before airdrop are still there but blackbytes that i received after 7th August are LOST.I was told that recovering though 'full backup' also recovers blackbytes but this doesn't happen in my case  Shocked
please someone tell me here how much is 8 GBB worth?I lost 8 GBB today even i restored using full backup.  Undecided
Blackbytes are a very smart implementation of a private asset, but they aren't very intuitive to use. I've experimented a bit on how they work, and created a Byteball: Blackbytes FAQ thread with my results.
Quick fix: you can ask Tonych to re-send your Blackbytes from the last airdrop. And indeed, you need to make a full backup after every transaction with Blackbytes, both sending and receiving!
DAMN! I thought one time backup was enough.My old blackbytes are still there in my wallet but the blackbytes of this distribution are lost.I am trying hard to recover lost files using some software but not found any files yet.Can tonych really send me blackbytes again?What i need to prove to him?

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August 26, 2017, 10:44:02 AM
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@ChainSmoker
Think of Blackbytes as a post-it handed to you by the previous owner. The post-it says: "ChainSmoker is now the new owner". Together with handing you the post-it, the DAG registers that the previous owner is no longer the owner of these Blackbytes. The DAG does not register that you received the post-it.
Now, if you lose this post-it, the previous owner can simply give you another post-it that says: "ChainSmoker is now the new owner". *
If you want to give your Blackbytes to someone else, your post-it contains all the information you need to create a new valid post-it for the receiving user, and to register the change of ownership in the DAG.

I think giving Tonych your address (and asking politely) is enough. Resending means sending the same transaction again, you'll receive the exact same Blackbytes again.
The sending wallet can click "re-send private payloads" from the transaction history:


I really recommend to try the features Byteball has, create another wallet and send some money around.

* Comment needed on this analogy: does it help explain how Blackbytes work?

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August 26, 2017, 10:47:50 AM
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@ChainSmoker
I think your address is enough. Resending means sending the same transaction again, you'll receive the exact same Blackbytes again.
The sending wallet can click "re-send private payloads" from the transaction history:


I really recommend to try the features Byteball, create another wallet and send some money around.

Why , you recommending sending money around , whats the gain about this? to create volume orso??

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August 26, 2017, 10:51:26 AM
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I really recommend to try the features Byteball, create another wallet and send some money around.

Why , you recommending sending money around , whats the gain about this? to create volume orso??
To get a feel for how Byteball works.

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August 26, 2017, 10:56:17 AM
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@LoyceV
Thanks for the good explanation.I pm'd Tonych and hope he responds.I am still trying to recover the lost file.Do you know which file stores the blackbytes on PC in AppData folder?

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August 26, 2017, 11:02:23 AM
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@ChainSmoker: I'm not sure.
I would expect these:
byteball-lite.sqlite
byteball-lite.sqlite-shm
byteball-lite.sqlite-wal

But if I delete all other files as a test, these files aren't enough and Byteball creates a new wallet.

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August 26, 2017, 11:07:38 AM
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@ChainSmoker: I'm not sure.
I would expect these:
byteball-lite.sqlite
byteball-lite.sqlite-shm
byteball-lite.sqlite-wal

But if I delete all other files as a test, these files aren't enough and Byteball creates a new wallet.
Anyone other then Tonych in the developer team that controls the distribution?

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Where are the Transaction Fees going ? Why not free like IOTA ?
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August 26, 2017, 12:53:36 PM
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Where are the Transaction Fees going ? Why not free like IOTA ?

IMO fees are spam protection. Can someone confirm ?
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August 26, 2017, 01:42:29 PM
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Bytes included in Kaiserex recommended portfolio
https://www.kaiserex.com/what-is-the-recommended-portfolio/

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August 26, 2017, 01:46:18 PM
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Since you ask for blackbytes... do you know, or does anyone reading, know what's the exchange rate for GBYTE/GBBYTE
Please update this price every once in a while here on the forum.  Wink

There is no exchange for it. There is #trading_blackbyte on https://byteball.slack.com where you can see offers:

ASK orders:
1.20539 GB/GBB   |   0.055 GB   |   4.562823717E9 GBB   |   @zonedoutdad (I'm pretty sure this line is a sorting mistake on slack)
0.01 GB/GBB   |   0.01 GB   |   1.0 GBB   |   @moonlander
0.01199 GB/GBB   |   0.0012 GB   |   0.1 GBB   |   @dmicah

BID orders:
0.01809 GB/GBB   |   0.181 GB   |   10.0 GBB   |   @conibito
0.01800 GB/GBB   |   1.8 GB   |   100.0 GBB   |   @altcore

For the record, there are now two bots that facilitate blackbytes' trading, beeb (which is currently in maintenance) and freebe, the latest trade on freebe is at 0.027 GB/GBB. Check out https://byteroll.com/blackbytes#bots for pairing codes (and more info).

Good thanks a lot! I hope these bots will become incresingly efficient so that we can do easy trades ourselves. Byteball is really paving the way of innovation in the crypto world  Wink

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