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Author Topic: Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments  (Read 1234304 times)
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August 31, 2017, 11:57:13 PM
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Feature request for developers:
make postal tracking oracle to get parcels delivery status by tracking numbers - shipping ordered, parcel accepted by delivery service, in transit, passed customs, delivered etc.


It would be very useful, will make possible secure payments for buying goods from classifieds with mail delivery and merchant who accept Byteball. And this is one more area to use Byteball for p2p payments.
Scheme: buyer and seller found each other and agreed. Buyer makes conditional payment, seller will receive it only after shipment is delivered. Or maybe buyer get some discount if seller shipped item with a delay.

Delivery status is obtained from postal tracking service (17track.net, track-trace.com, national postal services etc) through the oracle.
Postal tracking services have simple APIs for this.
I understand that such payments will not replace trading platforms like Ebay and cheating is still possible, but honest people still more, they just need a tool to reduce mistrust of other participants.

Unfortunately I'm not a developer... Sad

ALL the major carriers (USPS/UPS/FEDEX/DHL/Royal Mail/etc...) have fairly straightforward and easily accessed APIs.  If I was a more adept developer I thought the same thing a while back, conditional smart contracts for physical goods are lacking a decent verification system that doesn't involve an active third party.

Downside is I could put a TN into the contract, ship you a velvet elvis photo instead of the gold bullion you ordered and the contract will still execute, so there's still a substantial trust issue in play there, but I do think this would be a VERY nice feature to have for contract creation.

Maybe even have it check for insurance/insured value if that's possible to help remove a small part of the trust issue at hand.
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September 01, 2017, 01:12:09 AM
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Is this correct?

Can somebody say if this calculation is correct?

Yes, but then the price drops after the distribution.  Just have to be careful not to get sucked away by the tide! 

How big is byteballs development team?
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September 01, 2017, 02:46:26 AM
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Does the Byteball wallet need to be updated? I've been told that it does but the version I'm using (which is the very first one) appears to be working fine for me at the moment...

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September 01, 2017, 03:39:00 AM
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Does the Byteball wallet need to be updated? I've been told that it does but the version I'm using (which is the very first one) appears to be working fine for me at the moment...

1.10.1 is the latest.

Many issues resolved over the last few versions.  Like backups, syncing, DB issues.
I find it hard to believe you're working with the first version.

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September 01, 2017, 03:42:52 AM
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man, no idea how i forgot to link my bitcoin to this. i guess worst case i can just buy it online somewhere. Any exchanges yet or do you need to do transfers with a 3rd party?
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September 01, 2017, 04:07:37 AM
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Now the payment for bitcoin is decreased, so many people may not bother to link their bitcoins. It is more interesting to have GByte to get more. The price has been pretty low for a while...
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September 01, 2017, 04:27:21 AM
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man, no idea how i forgot to link my bitcoin to this. i guess worst case i can just buy it online somewhere. Any exchanges yet or do you need to do transfers with a 3rd party?

there is a guide here

https://medium.com/byteball-help/tutorial-on-linking-trezor-wallet-to-byteball-account-via-signing-a-message-b4e390d7e1a8

and fwiw unless you have a lot its more worthwhile to have GB for this drop. 160 BTC = 1 GB whereas 10 GB = 1 GB . Idk about you but I know what I am getting and not linking
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September 01, 2017, 05:58:02 AM
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There won't be as much volatility / excitement this time around, because the air drop amount has decreased. Fewer people are waiting for the airdrop and getting ready to dump their coins as soon as they get their hands on them.


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September 01, 2017, 06:21:08 AM
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Anyone here facing this problem of 'Syncing... 11 private payments left' and sometimes 'Syncing... 13 private payments left','Syncing... 16 private payments left'.
This happens to many wallets, I've reported it to Tony, but it's still unclear what causes it.
My wallets work fine while giving this message though.

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September 01, 2017, 06:33:27 AM
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I was really into Byteball at the beginning, but the first snapshot didn't work for me. So disappointing. Then I just didn't have any more Bitcoins.  Sad
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September 01, 2017, 06:36:04 AM
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Anyone here facing this problem of 'Syncing... 11 private payments left' and sometimes 'Syncing... 13 private payments left','Syncing... 16 private payments left'.
This happens to many wallets, I've reported it to Tony, but it's still unclear what causes it.
My wallets work fine while giving this message though.
I had that myself: kept the message "27 private payments left for a while". Then I updated my wallet, shutdown the system and started it again and the message was gone.
Weird error though
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September 01, 2017, 07:41:23 AM
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The next airdrop is coming nearer  Grin

It is good for the Byteball holders, but not so good for BTC holders.
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September 01, 2017, 08:30:49 AM
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What is happening to Byteball is dropping so fast and there is no way to figure out when it will stop. I was shure Bytebaal will be in top 10 this year but I could be mistaken.

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September 01, 2017, 08:38:04 AM
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September 01, 2017, 09:49:28 AM
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I understand.

So, you can try to resolve this a couple of ways as I suggested.

Send everything you can to a new wallet
or
Send me your backup, I fix it, send it back.  (Then do the first suggestion so that I no longer have access to your bytes).

Thanks to Michail.He recovered my corrupted byteball wallet and also recovered 14 GBB out of 17 GBB for me.He is a trusted asset to the community here. Cheesy

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September 01, 2017, 11:11:55 AM
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I understand.

So, you can try to resolve this a couple of ways as I suggested.

Send everything you can to a new wallet
or
Send me your backup, I fix it, send it back.  (Then do the first suggestion so that I no longer have access to your bytes).

Thanks to Michail.He recovered my corrupted byteball wallet and also recovered 14 GBB out of 17 GBB for me.He is a trusted asset to the community here. Cheesy
Michail/ChainSmoker: can you explain how you recovered it?

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September 01, 2017, 11:15:55 AM
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I understand.

So, you can try to resolve this a couple of ways as I suggested.

Send everything you can to a new wallet
or
Send me your backup, I fix it, send it back.  (Then do the first suggestion so that I no longer have access to your bytes).

Thanks to Michail.He recovered my corrupted byteball wallet and also recovered 14 GBB out of 17 GBB for me.He is a trusted asset to the community here. Cheesy
Michail/ChainSmoker: can you explain how you recovered it?
I sent him my wallet backup with 17 GBB. I was getting error sending blackbytes.I don't know what exactly he did but he recovered first 10 GBB then 2 GBB more then 1.75 GBB and at last 0.11 GBB.After that he told me he basically ran out of tricks to recover more so 3.47 GBB are still stuck in my wallet with the same error.I am happy 14 GBB is actually recovered.I have a backup now with 3.47 GBB which are useless as they can't be sent.If someday Tonych gets time,i will send him backup file to look for the cause of the problem.

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September 01, 2017, 11:25:02 AM
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ByteBall backup 2.6 GB right now
Not bad for one year of existence.

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September 01, 2017, 02:31:38 PM
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Anyone here facing this problem of 'Syncing... 11 private payments left' and sometimes 'Syncing... 13 private payments left','Syncing... 16 private payments left'.
This happens to many wallets, I've reported it to Tony, but it's still unclear what causes it.
My wallets work fine while giving this message though.
I had that myself: kept the message "27 private payments left for a while". Then I updated my wallet, shutdown the system and started it again and the message was gone.
Weird error though

There are a few reasons it happens and just as many ways to fix it.

It gets more complicated down the list.   The error is easily fixed; however, if there is an underlying reason, the problem will return with the next transaction.  This is why I don't tell someone how to fix, cause there could be another reason and it's easy to mess things up worse.


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