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August 16, 2017, 12:32:15 PM
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I just saw that I had to click on advanced to bring up the additional options. I think this is not really an advanced feature, it should be reachable easier imo. I think people like to keep track of all the addresses they have to receive payments in a nice and ordered way. Even if you should generate a new address each time for better privacy, it's good to keep track of them, and newbies may be confused than this is an advanced feature IMO.

Why would any regular person want to see old receive addresses?   Bitcoin doesn't do this by default either.

Click on Receive and you see an address.  You can click on Generate New Address at will.
I think that blasting a screen with a lot of receive and change addresses would simply confuse most people.  I think for this reason, no wallet (that I know of) floods the screen with such addresses for any crypto by default.



It does? "Recieving addresses" is listed in the main menu in Bitcoin Core. It's also basic to use coin control feature if you want any privacy.


Also I have a problem. I have run out of newly generated addresses in Byteball. It just keeps generating the same addresses I have generated already. Looks like after address number 16, it keeps showing me addresses that I have already generated (so random ones no that 16 address list)

What is going on with this? I need at least 60 different Byteball addresses for my at laest 60 Bitecoin addresses (I didn't count them but it's around 60 that I have to sign and link to these 60 Byteball addresses)



Addresses generation complies to BIP44. Use "create a new wallet".

https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0044.mediawiki
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August 16, 2017, 01:34:33 PM
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Hey Byteballers,

I've been thinking about the cashback program. I think it's important that we make this work -- it's an idea with plenty of upside, but one that will require a "schlep," lots of leg work. That means we need to start planning right away. Leaving it all on Tony is probably not going to give the best results.

However, we are going to need more info from Tony on what he's planning to present to merchants. Is the byteball-for-merchants.com the official merchant integration solution? And what other materials are available to present to merchants?

I am thinking it might make sense to form some type of corporate entity or nonprofit in order to present this to merchants. Potentially we would want to do this in multiple major markets -- North America, Europe, Asia, etc.

Also I've been thinking of merchants to pitch this too. One idea I had was StackSocial.com. No idea if they'd be receptive, but it seems like a good fit. Maybe we should start using some type of collaboration tool -- Google Sheets, for example -- to list potential merchant contacts, their responses etc.

But first of all, we need the full details from the Byteball team.
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August 16, 2017, 01:40:01 PM
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Hey Byteballers,

I've been thinking about the cashback program. I think it's important that we make this work -- it's an idea with plenty of upside, but one that will require a "schlep," lots of leg work. That means we need to start planning right away. Leaving it all on Tony is probably not going to give the best results.

However, we are going to need more info from Tony on what he's planning to present to merchants. Is the byteball-for-merchants.com the official merchant integration solution? And what other materials are available to present to merchants?

I am thinking it might make sense to form some type of corporate entity or nonprofit in order to present this to merchants. Potentially we would want to do this in multiple major markets -- North America, Europe, Asia, etc.

Also I've been thinking of merchants to pitch this too. One idea I had was StackSocial.com. No idea if they'd be receptive, but it seems like a good fit. Maybe we should start using some type of collaboration tool -- Google Sheets, for example -- to list potential merchant contacts, their responses etc.

But first of all, we need the full details from the Byteball team.

byteball-for-merchants.com  is not the official websiste. There will be an API for merchants, they send the purchase details and customer's BB address to the api, distribution bot will send the bytes to this address. If the purchase is paid in something else than bytes, merchants will have to ask customers about their BB address.
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August 16, 2017, 01:57:31 PM
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I just saw that I had to click on advanced to bring up the additional options. I think this is not really an advanced feature, it should be reachable easier imo. I think people like to keep track of all the addresses they have to receive payments in a nice and ordered way. Even if you should generate a new address each time for better privacy, it's good to keep track of them, and newbies may be confused than this is an advanced feature IMO.

Why would any regular person want to see old receive addresses?   Bitcoin doesn't do this by default either.

Click on Receive and you see an address.  You can click on Generate New Address at will.
I think that blasting a screen with a lot of receive and change addresses would simply confuse most people.  I think for this reason, no wallet (that I know of) floods the screen with such addresses for any crypto by default.



It does? "Recieving addresses" is listed in the main menu in Bitcoin Core. It's also basic to use coin control feature if you want any privacy.


Also I have a problem. I have run out of newly generated addresses in Byteball. It just keeps generating the same addresses I have generated already. Looks like after address number 16, it keeps showing me addresses that I have already generated (so random ones no that 16 address list)

What is going on with this? I need at least 60 different Byteball addresses for my at laest 60 Bitecoin addresses (I didn't count them but it's around 60 that I have to sign and link to these 60 Byteball addresses)



Addresses generation complies to BIP44. Use "create a new wallet".

https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0044.mediawiki

So this means each wallet can generate 16 different addresses?

But when the next distribution happens, will I get less money if my Byteballs are distributed across different wallets?

The distribution gives you a % depending on your holdings, and im worried that I will get less Byteball if my holdings are scattered across different wallets.
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August 16, 2017, 02:21:53 PM
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I just saw that I had to click on advanced to bring up the additional options. I think this is not really an advanced feature, it should be reachable easier imo. I think people like to keep track of all the addresses they have to receive payments in a nice and ordered way. Even if you should generate a new address each time for better privacy, it's good to keep track of them, and newbies may be confused than this is an advanced feature IMO.

Why would any regular person want to see old receive addresses?   Bitcoin doesn't do this by default either.

Click on Receive and you see an address.  You can click on Generate New Address at will.
I think that blasting a screen with a lot of receive and change addresses would simply confuse most people.  I think for this reason, no wallet (that I know of) floods the screen with such addresses for any crypto by default.



It does? "Recieving addresses" is listed in the main menu in Bitcoin Core. It's also basic to use coin control feature if you want any privacy.


Also I have a problem. I have run out of newly generated addresses in Byteball. It just keeps generating the same addresses I have generated already. Looks like after address number 16, it keeps showing me addresses that I have already generated (so random ones no that 16 address list)

What is going on with this? I need at least 60 different Byteball addresses for my at laest 60 Bitecoin addresses (I didn't count them but it's around 60 that I have to sign and link to these 60 Byteball addresses)



Addresses generation complies to BIP44. Use "create a new wallet".

https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0044.mediawiki

So this means each wallet can generate 16 different addresses?

But when the next distribution happens, will I get less money if my Byteballs are distributed across different wallets?

The distribution gives you a % depending on your holdings, and im worried that I will get less Byteball if my holdings are scattered across different wallets.

According to BIP44 each wallet maintains a pool of 20 unused addresses ahead of the last used address.
You can create new wallets from within your wallet (top left menu).
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August 16, 2017, 03:00:55 PM
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I just saw that I had to click on advanced to bring up the additional options. I think this is not really an advanced feature, it should be reachable easier imo. I think people like to keep track of all the addresses they have to receive payments in a nice and ordered way. Even if you should generate a new address each time for better privacy, it's good to keep track of them, and newbies may be confused than this is an advanced feature IMO.

Why would any regular person want to see old receive addresses?   Bitcoin doesn't do this by default either.

Click on Receive and you see an address.  You can click on Generate New Address at will.
I think that blasting a screen with a lot of receive and change addresses would simply confuse most people.  I think for this reason, no wallet (that I know of) floods the screen with such addresses for any crypto by default.



It does? "Recieving addresses" is listed in the main menu in Bitcoin Core. It's also basic to use coin control feature if you want any privacy.


Also I have a problem. I have run out of newly generated addresses in Byteball. It just keeps generating the same addresses I have generated already. Looks like after address number 16, it keeps showing me addresses that I have already generated (so random ones no that 16 address list)

What is going on with this? I need at least 60 different Byteball addresses for my at laest 60 Bitecoin addresses (I didn't count them but it's around 60 that I have to sign and link to these 60 Byteball addresses)



Addresses generation complies to BIP44. Use "create a new wallet".

https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0044.mediawiki

So this means each wallet can generate 16 different addresses?

But when the next distribution happens, will I get less money if my Byteballs are distributed across different wallets?

The distribution gives you a % depending on your holdings, and im worried that I will get less Byteball if my holdings are scattered across different wallets.

According to BIP44 each wallet maintains a pool of 20 unused addresses ahead of the last used address.
You can create new wallets from within your wallet (top left menu).


I see, but what about the distribution %?

If it gets divided across different wallets, will I receive less byteballs compared to holding them all on the same wallet, or you receive byteballs for the sum of all the wallets?

If you create another wallet and receive money and you have no 2 wallets, the number that shows up will show the total amount of byteballs of all wallets or individually when you select a wallet?
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August 16, 2017, 03:10:22 PM
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...

I see, but what about the distribution %?

If it gets divided across different wallets, will I receive less byteballs compared to holding them all on the same wallet, or you receive byteballs for the sum of all the wallets?

If you create another wallet and receive money and you have no 2 wallets, the number that shows up will show the total amount of byteballs of all wallets or individually when you select a wallet?
Can you do some math?

You have 3 wallets each with 5GB, then you get 5*0.1 + 5*0.1 + 5*0.1 = 0.15GB
You have 1 wallet with 15GB then you get 15*0.1 = 0.15 GB

So it is the same.
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August 16, 2017, 03:21:17 PM
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I see, but what about the distribution %?

If it gets divided across different wallets, will I receive less byteballs compared to holding them all on the same wallet, or you receive byteballs for the sum of all the wallets?

If you create another wallet and receive money and you have no 2 wallets, the number that shows up will show the total amount of byteballs of all wallets or individually when you select a wallet?
Can you do some math?

You have 3 wallets each with 5GB, then you get 5*0.1 + 5*0.1 + 5*0.1 = 0.15GB
You have 1 wallet with 15GB then you get 15*0.1 = 0.15 GB

So it is the same.

Dude, 15.*0.1 = 1.5
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August 16, 2017, 03:30:28 PM
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I see, but what about the distribution %?

If it gets divided across different wallets, will I receive less byteballs compared to holding them all on the same wallet, or you receive byteballs for the sum of all the wallets?

If you create another wallet and receive money and you have no 2 wallets, the number that shows up will show the total amount of byteballs of all wallets or individually when you select a wallet?
Can you do some math?

You have 3 wallets each with 5GB, then you get 5*0.1 + 5*0.1 + 5*0.1 = 0.15GB
You have 1 wallet with 15GB then you get 15*0.1 = 0.15 GB

So it is the same.

lol 5*0.1=0.5 GB
15*0.1=1.5 GB

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August 16, 2017, 04:21:38 PM
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I see, but what about the distribution %?

If it gets divided across different wallets, will I receive less byteballs compared to holding them all on the same wallet, or you receive byteballs for the sum of all the wallets?

If you create another wallet and receive money and you have no 2 wallets, the number that shows up will show the total amount of byteballs of all wallets or individually when you select a wallet?
Can you do some math?

You have 3 wallets each with 5GB, then you get 5*0.1 + 5*0.1 + 5*0.1 = 0.15GB
You have 1 wallet with 15GB then you get 15*0.1 = 0.15 GB

So it is the same.

lol 5*0.1=0.5 GB
15*0.1=1.5 GB

What's funny here? amacar1 all correctly wrote, and you just only copied after him
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August 16, 2017, 04:32:19 PM
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I see, but what about the distribution %?

If it gets divided across different wallets, will I receive less byteballs compared to holding them all on the same wallet, or you receive byteballs for the sum of all the wallets?

If you create another wallet and receive money and you have no 2 wallets, the number that shows up will show the total amount of byteballs of all wallets or individually when you select a wallet?
Can you do some math?

You have 3 wallets each with 5GB, then you get 5*0.1 + 5*0.1 + 5*0.1 = 0.15GB
You have 1 wallet with 15GB then you get 15*0.1 = 0.15 GB

So it is the same.

lol 5*0.1=0.5 GB


What's funny here? amacar1 all correctly wrote, and you just only copied after him

amacar1 - You have 1 wallet with 15GB then you get 15*0.1 = 0.15 GB
me - 15*0.1=1.5 GB

it's not same

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August 16, 2017, 06:00:23 PM
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I see, but what about the distribution %?

If it gets divided across different wallets, will I receive less byteballs compared to holding them all on the same wallet, or you receive byteballs for the sum of all the wallets?

If you create another wallet and receive money and you have no 2 wallets, the number that shows up will show the total amount of byteballs of all wallets or individually when you select a wallet?
Can you do some math?

You have 3 wallets each with 5GB, then you get 5*0.1 + 5*0.1 + 5*0.1 = 0.15GB
You have 1 wallet with 15GB then you get 15*0.1 = 0.15 GB

So it is the same.

lol 5*0.1=0.5 GB


What's funny here? amacar1 all correctly wrote, and you just only copied after him

amacar1 - You have 1 wallet with 15GB then you get 15*0.1 = 0.15 GB
me - 15*0.1=1.5 GB

it's not same

Oh boy, hey horsecoinchina would you like to send me 0.01 BTC please using your maths please :-)

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August 16, 2017, 08:19:35 PM
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Lol sorry my bad  Cheesy

I mean:
You have 3 wallets each with 5GB, then you get 5*0.1 + 5*0.1 + 5*0.1 = 1.5GB
You have 1 wallet with 15GB then you get 15*0.1 = 1.5 GB

So it is the same.
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August 16, 2017, 09:23:54 PM
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I see, but what about the distribution %?

If it gets divided across different wallets, will I receive less byteballs compared to holding them all on the same wallet, or you receive byteballs for the sum of all the wallets?

If you create another wallet and receive money and you have no 2 wallets, the number that shows up will show the total amount of byteballs of all wallets or individually when you select a wallet?
Can you do some math?

You have 3 wallets each with 5GB, then you get 5*0.1 + 5*0.1 + 5*0.1 = 0.15GB
You have 1 wallet with 15GB then you get 15*0.1 = 0.15 GB

So it is the same.

lol 5*0.1=0.5 GB
15*0.1=1.5 GB

What's funny here? amacar1 all correctly wrote, and you just only copied after him

no dude...

p2p didn’t copy after him.
he correctly pointed out the decimal error.
ok, so maybe not so funny, but your post is, lol...

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August 16, 2017, 09:43:40 PM
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Lol sorry my bad  Cheesy

I mean:
You have 3 wallets each with 5GB, then you get 5*0.1 + 5*0.1 + 5*0.1 = 1.5GB
You have 1 wallet with 15GB then you get 15*0.1 = 1.5 GB

So it is the same.

Sheesh... We are debating the associative property of multiplication here.
Bottom line - it doesn't matter how your coins are split in your wallet.


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August 16, 2017, 11:26:04 PM
Last edit: August 16, 2017, 11:43:00 PM by neurotypical
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Lol sorry my bad  Cheesy

I mean:
You have 3 wallets each with 5GB, then you get 5*0.1 + 5*0.1 + 5*0.1 = 1.5GB
You have 1 wallet with 15GB then you get 15*0.1 = 1.5 GB

So it is the same.

Sheesh... We are debating the associative property of multiplication here.
Bottom line - it doesn't matter how your coins are split in your wallet.

Apparently im not the one only that can't do math here Tongue

Anyway, I will keep generating new coins and when I run out of new addresses (by the way, the wallet should prompt you that the new generated addresses after number 20 will be the same that have already been generated...) I will keep making new wallets until I have one byteball address for reach BTC address, that will take a while buts ideal privacy.

My question remains: Once I have several wallets, this number right here (the one that says 100,000 bytes) shows only the holdings of the selected wallet



how do I check the total amount of GB and blackbytes on all wallets?

also is there a limit of wallets you can create? (hopefully not..?)

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August 17, 2017, 02:44:14 AM
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too late to know the byteball ,it is owsome , i must catch up , learn how to get free coins

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August 17, 2017, 03:40:10 AM
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[reminder]

Announcing BEEB - Blackbytes Escrow Exchange Bot.

Instant buy and sell batches of Blackbytes 24h/24h, 7 days a week.
(you don't need to find a peer anymore: the bot is the peer!)


AxV6ohKFORqIGfGqCZgjK1HlL8vBiNltcWWaI0Rc9yN+@byteball.fr/bb#0000

To pair with Beeb. In your wallet top left menu "PAIRED DEVICE" then "+ Add a new device" then paste the above cryptic address in "Accept invitation" and validate.

Support: https://byteball.slack.com/ #beeb channel




I would use the service but imo the price is too high and the liquidity too low. I was thinking more like the range of 10+ GBB at .01-.02 GB per GBB
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August 17, 2017, 04:54:31 AM
 #12719

[reminder]

Announcing BEEB - Blackbytes Escrow Exchange Bot.

Instant buy and sell batches of Blackbytes 24h/24h, 7 days a week.
(you don't need to find a peer anymore: the bot is the peer!)


AxV6ohKFORqIGfGqCZgjK1HlL8vBiNltcWWaI0Rc9yN+@byteball.fr/bb#0000

To pair with Beeb. In your wallet top left menu "PAIRED DEVICE" then "+ Add a new device" then paste the above cryptic address in "Accept invitation" and validate.

Support: https://byteball.slack.com/ #beeb channel




I would use the service but imo the price is too high and the liquidity too low. I was thinking more like the range of 10+ GBB at .01-.02 GB per GBB

The bot is only one week old. As more people will use it, the liquidity will improve. The price is... the price the sellers whishe to sell.

FYI you can be notified by the bot when a price meets your target buy price (use the 'N' command).
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August 17, 2017, 05:24:12 AM
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[reminder]

Announcing BEEB - Blackbytes Escrow Exchange Bot.

Instant buy and sell batches of Blackbytes 24h/24h, 7 days a week.
(you don't need to find a peer anymore: the bot is the peer!)


AxV6ohKFORqIGfGqCZgjK1HlL8vBiNltcWWaI0Rc9yN+@byteball.fr/bb#0000

To pair with Beeb. In your wallet top left menu "PAIRED DEVICE" then "+ Add a new device" then paste the above cryptic address in "Accept invitation" and validate.

Support: https://byteball.slack.com/ #beeb channel




wow great bot, i will use it when there is enough liquity
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