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November 07, 2017, 09:23:33 PM
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i received the exspected amount of bytes in the last drop but i didn't get any blackbytes.
does anybody have the same problem?
what can i do to receive the amount of blackbytes which was exspected by the chat bot?

(sorry if this problem was already discussed in this thread.)


I am not going to answer this for you since it is the same question that happens after each and every distribution.
Read what Tony said in his last post.

I have received my byteballs, thanks to the dev. But I don't receive blackbytes. Are they dropping in different days?

Same answer.



Yes same for me too..

Anyways, excited to be part of this after receiving my first airdrop! Only started learning about Byteball in the last couple of weeks  Grin

Same answer.


I am also getting this issue.  Is there any estimate as to when this fix will be released?  This issue happened before I was able to backup after the most recent distribution so I am getting nervous - I really want to backup.

To make a backup, simply backup the data directory where your wallet is at.  Copy the full directory to a usb drive.



I suggest a beautiful feminine figure to represent Byteball.
IOTA got Jesse Babbra‏ and I think that's their best move.

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Tony is great but he isn't sexy.


Love that idea.   People love looking at women.  Quite rare to order coffee from a male 'barista'
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November 07, 2017, 09:38:47 PM
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Same answer.



Thanks for the answer Michail, I will give it a shot soon, but that doesn't really address what the actual problem is. Is it corrupt db? Is this something that used to happen with conditional payments but now has been corrected?
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November 07, 2017, 09:49:16 PM
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Syncing... 36 private payments left. PC is with i7, so power is not a cause. This is getting worse everyday, not only price of the coin.

It's an issue with the wallet.
2 ways to solve this.

1)  Send me your wallet and I will send it back repaired.
2) Create a new wallet on another device, send all your funds to it, then move the new wallet to your primary machine.
Nope these are not a solutions, just an ugly patch. What if these happens to 1000s of people, will you fix all these wallets? Then better write instructions how to do this.

Basically Tonych need to fix this ASAP on client. This is not a beta stage anymore. Wallet that can corrupt anytime, sound totally amateur.
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November 07, 2017, 10:01:57 PM
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Syncing... 36 private payments left. PC is with i7, so power is not a cause. This is getting worse everyday, not only price of the coin.

It's an issue with the wallet.
2 ways to solve this.

1)  Send me your wallet and I will send it back repaired.
2) Create a new wallet on another device, send all your funds to it, then move the new wallet to your primary machine.
Nope these are not a solutions, just an ugly patch. What if these happens to 1000s of people, will you fix all these wallets? Then better write instructions how to do this.

Basically Tonych need to fix this ASAP on client. This is not a beta stage anymore. Wallet that can corrupt anytime, sound totally amateur.

I didn't say it was a solution to the problem or what causes it.  I said it was a way to solve the issue for you.
Your absolutely right.... the wallet can corrupt itself... Oh yeah, just like every other damn crypto wallet.  Need proof?  I can send you a bitcoin wallet that is corrupted with 25 bitcoins in it.

So, you can either solve the issue for yourself and be done with it, or not.  Tony isn't going to spend time on your wallet or try to fix every possible reason that could cause the issue which even includes restoring a full backup from prior to spending or receiving blackbytes.

Many other reasons for the problem.  So, hard to know which particular one is yours.
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November 07, 2017, 10:05:45 PM
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Same answer.



Thanks for the answer Michail, I will give it a shot soon, but that doesn't really address what the actual problem is. Is it corrupt db? Is this something that used to happen with conditional payments but now has been corrected?

It doesn't because there are several reasons the issue could be caused.   Just posted one.  Anyone can duplicate the problem simply sending blackbytes from a corrupted wallet.  Or, sending to someone that is paired, but they move to another hub.

You can simply delete the payment from the DB and then request the private payment be resent.  This happens all the time at distributions.  Mainly because people think that since they didn't get their free money, they start jumping to different hubs without communication with the transition bot, so payments are temporarily lost.
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November 07, 2017, 10:06:50 PM
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As promised in slack i will ask for GBB and our exchange




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November 07, 2017, 10:08:51 PM
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The owner of Osteria Il Trullo restaurant in Milan is doing great job expanding our cashback program.  He has recruited 12 new merchants in Milan in the area around his restaurant.



To get the cashback, you keep your fiscal receipt, walk to one of the two Distribution Points, and receive cashback in Bytes according to the amount on the receipt.

See details:
English: https://byteball.org/milan/
Italian: https://byteball.org/milano/


This is really good ! Maybe it's time for Byteball project to hire a press officer, and have this world premiere covered by mainstream press.

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November 07, 2017, 10:13:48 PM
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What is the difference between blackbytes and byteballs?

Is 1 GB of Byteball = 1 coin of Byteball?

It would be really helpful if there was an ELI 5 somewhere with simple answers to questions like this about the basics.

Perhaps there is but I missed it.
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November 07, 2017, 11:37:34 PM
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Gbb is private asset. Not sure if people want to trade that on exchange.

Yes they do. You too can buy and sell GBB on http://www.beeb-bot.com/
U talking about in wallet bot. I'm talking about exchange where you have public addresses. Gbb is private asset. There is no blockchain to track it. So therefore gbb is different than public assets/tokens or gbytes.

I agree with ByteFan here. Monero, Zcash, Zencash etc. all lay claim to the "best privacy crypto" title but unlike GBB they're all tradeable outside the confines of a wallet bot, on Bittrex no less. I'm not that knowledgeable on how it works so I have to ask: what is it, specifically, that makes having Monero on trex still private but not GBB?

Reading through answers like these and threads like this makes it appear like GBB isn't all that private and/or won't ever stop being a really niche privacy crypto.

Can I maybe get some sort of answer to this or at least a link to something I can read explaining it? This is the third time I'll be asking this with no answer.

What is the difference between blackbytes and byteballs?

The former is an anonymous, privacy crypto and the latter is not.

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Is 1 GB of Byteball = 1 coin of Byteball?

ByteBall is the platform and GBYTE (GB) is the currency. 1 GB is, AFAIK, the standard unit like 1BTC and can be divided into fractions.

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It would be really helpful if there was an ELI 5 somewhere with simple answers to questions like this about the basics.

Perhaps there is but I missed it.

I think the OP and website might be helpful.
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November 08, 2017, 02:30:59 AM
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I also agree the "ceased" distribution is concerning. So much uncertainly. Uncertainty = low price... read any stock book.

I could understand giving a clear plan now. To leave so much up in the air is unwise and spooks large holders.

My whole problem with ICO type coins (like this, suddently) is that the dev controls too much supply.

Price dump right ahead of this news = Insider trading? Not accusing dev of anything, but it is suspicious...

Oh well, it will all work out if dev keeps at the genius ideas buried here...

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November 08, 2017, 07:07:48 AM
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My whole problem with ICO type coins (like this, suddently) is that the dev controls too much supply.

Price dump right ahead of this news = Insider trading? Not accusing dev of anything, but it is suspicious...


1. No ICO here (except TitanCoin ICO which is a different asset)
2. GBytes to be distributed are visible on the DAG explorer address and not "being dumped"
3. Tony said he still wants to distribute the coins. Just doing an airdrop may not be the most effective way anymore, so needs to be changed.
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November 08, 2017, 07:40:42 AM
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We, people like me who did not move a single coin from the begining, are in hands of tony. We know he will do the best for long term, and that is what really matters here.

Seriously Tony, if you are planning january airdrop, you should do it only over wallets which did not move any single coin since received them (except iconomi and lisk ones). And quitting btc airdrop.

I think we are 40% or so. It will slow down distro even more and should stabilize price, which is crucial if you want byteball to be a currency.

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November 08, 2017, 08:23:50 AM
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Seriously Tony, if you are planning january airdrop, you should do it only over wallets which did not move any single coin since received them

~ and should stabilize price, which is crucial if you want byteball to be a currency.
You're contradicting yourself: to be a currency, it should be used. If you're only holding instead of spending, it's not a currency.

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November 08, 2017, 09:00:09 AM
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Seriously Tony, if you are planning january airdrop, you should do it only over wallets which did not move any single coin since received them

~ and should stabilize price, which is crucial if you want byteball to be a currency.
You're contradicting yourself: to be a currency, it should be used. If you're only holding instead of spending, it's not a currency.
Fully agree.
Pointless to give something which is not usable at all. Then u will have full pockets of coins which are worthless.
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Seriously Tony, if you are planning january airdrop, you should do it only over wallets which did not move any single coin since received them

~ and should stabilize price, which is crucial if you want byteball to be a currency.
You're contradicting yourself: to be a currency, it should be used. If you're only holding instead of spending, it's not a currency.
Fully agree.
Pointless to give something which is not usable at all. Then u will have full pockets of coins which are worthless.

Don't agree. Let's be honest a currency is usually accepted to buy lots of useful things. There will be no confidence in this long term until full disbursement. Im surprised actually that bittrex listed it with the dev still holding so much and making unilateral decisions with no community consult.

I went to my shop to buy some useful things sadly i don't live in milan so they didnt hear about bb yet.

The only thing you can buy with bb is other crypto right now ie trading

It will be a long time before bb is a currency that is primarily used to buy "things" with. Lets take care of the distribution first so we can eventually buy things of worth without spending hundreds of gbytes.

I say continue distribution to those that have held bytball and not been shuffling and churning it on exchanges.

The distribution to me is a disaster of in so many ways ..certainly block off the known addresses of competing projects holding huge amounts of BB that was totally foolish giving it all to them so now we have to go stop distributing to the people that bought bb being told they would get future full moon airdrops just so we can fund our own development. In fact if i could vote for forking this and nulling their wallets i would. Take back our tokens and use them for development too. I mean why are we funding the development of projects competing against us I own LISK and KOMODO and probably a few others byte ball donated huge chunks of its minting too and still i think it is totally ridiculous.

I never heard such a crazy plan. Let's fund other projects competing against us so we cant fund our own plans.

Then let;s destroy real investor belief in anything the dev says in future by stopping their airdrops they probably invested in it for in the first place and held since the top which was  10x higher. If i had actually purchased this in june/july I would be pretty seething. Not only have I taken a 90% hair cut on my btc I am now not getting the meager 20 or even 10 percent recurring airdrops and the distribution is being strung out longer and longer and trust me most investors do NOT like the dev in sole control of such a huge percentage of the minting. The distribution should be finished in 3 months or less. Build in a development funding mechanism if you wish but holding back and controlling so much of the minting in such a centralised way is just another nail in this projects coffin.

Those who stuck up for this distributional model at the start must have rocks in their head. KNOWINGLY giving such huge funding to competing projects and exchanges is still unfathomable to me. Tonych never comments on it either. You basically KNOWINGLY just made your task magnitudes hard and drawn out.

Luckily it is the most novel project technically here except perhaps eth so it;s not dead but to get where is should have been already is going to take 10x longer and the vast profits on the way will be given away to other projects and exchanges.

What a waste of a great chance it has been so far.

I dont care if the rest of the tokens are burned right now. It is more damaging having them in the sole control of one person.

Better to create a development funding mechanism that creates a small % of tokens that are used according to a decentralised voting process.

If I could fork it and null the other competing projects known bb wallets I would do that too. We have no issue changing distributional methods we consider mistakes here. That was the largest mistake. Lets undo that. Im sure they would have more shame than to complain since its not even their BTC anyway.

Real investors (those that do their homework) do not care that the project has the best tech or best user case. They look hard at the distribution and risk of a shift of the value in btc and tech to another project or out in to fiat altogether. Right now byteball is high risk in that area. Forget looking at wallet numbers nobody knows how they are being split. All we know is at the start a small very small number of people took huge amounts of this coin which was then compounded. That is risky for market making and collusion and exit.

On top of that the dev holds 60% and makes unilateral non consulting decisions on those tokens.

This is super high risk right here. Also if tonych is a single coder not a group that is again super high risk.

Competing projects own huge slices of the minting.... that is never going to be a good thing. They have split interests sure they want to make money but they want their project to succeed.

All these things need to be addressed or minimised as much as possible if you want investors jumping in with both feet.


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November 08, 2017, 10:40:30 AM
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GBYTE value is decreasing day by day ?
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DAG is revolutionary
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I like this price rise today.
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November 08, 2017, 12:35:05 PM
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Syncing... 36 private payments left. PC is with i7, so power is not a cause. This is getting worse everyday, not only price of the coin.

It's an issue with the wallet.
2 ways to solve this.

1)  Send me your wallet and I will send it back repaired.
2) Create a new wallet on another device, send all your funds to it, then move the new wallet to your primary machine.
Nope these are not a solutions, just an ugly patch. What if these happens to 1000s of people, will you fix all these wallets? Then better write instructions how to do this.

Basically Tonych need to fix this ASAP on client. This is not a beta stage anymore. Wallet that can corrupt anytime, sound totally amateur.

I didn't say it was a solution to the problem or what causes it.  I said it was a way to solve the issue for you.
Your absolutely right.... the wallet can corrupt itself... Oh yeah, just like every other damn crypto wallet.  Need proof?  I can send you a bitcoin wallet that is corrupted with 25 bitcoins in it.

So, you can either solve the issue for yourself and be done with it, or not.  Tony isn't going to spend time on your wallet or try to fix every possible reason that could cause the issue which even includes restoring a full backup from prior to spending or receiving blackbytes.

Many other reasons for the problem.  So, hard to know which particular one is yours.

My problem was probably caused by blackbytes distribution, because beofre that wallet was working ok. I left program overnight and looks like that problem is gone. Also blackbytes from last distribution are now shown correctly.
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November 08, 2017, 01:02:13 PM
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Seriously Tony, if you are planning january airdrop, you should do it only over wallets which did not move any single coin since received them

~ and should stabilize price, which is crucial if you want byteball to be a currency.
You're contradicting yourself: to be a currency, it should be used. If you're only holding instead of spending, it's not a currency.

I will be using when all coins are distributed. Even if Tony decides to stop airdropping to byte holders.

Rome was not built in a day.

I believe on this project since first time I heard about it. And people like me should be rewarded for our faith IMO.

Anyway, I would prefer to stop airdropping at all (and distribute remaining coins through cashback or another methods) rather than 10% to byte holders like as usual.

Let there be light!
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