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October 12, 2017, 11:40:49 PM
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I was speaking about byteball at a meetup tonight and i was told that it is inspired by iota. I can see iota is referenced in the whitepaper. So i am assuming the statement was correct. What makes it different. Im sorry if this has been asked before. perhaps you can point me in the right direction to learn more.

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October 12, 2017, 11:41:12 PM
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October 12, 2017, 11:44:15 PM
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October 13, 2017, 12:01:41 AM
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I was speaking about byteball at a meetup tonight and i was told that it is inspired by iota. I can see iota is referenced in the whitepaper. So i am assuming the statement was correct. What makes it different. Im sorry if this has been asked before. perhaps you can point me in the right direction to learn more.
The concept was around before both these projects: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1177633.0

If i'm not missing something, the difference is basically in the witnesses and distribution mechanism.
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October 13, 2017, 05:33:51 AM
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I was speaking about byteball at a meetup tonight and i was told that it is inspired by iota. I can see iota is referenced in the whitepaper. So i am assuming the statement was correct. What makes it different. Im sorry if this has been asked before. perhaps you can point me in the right direction to learn more.
The concept was around before both these projects: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1177633.0

If i'm not missing something, the difference is basically in the witnesses and distribution mechanism.
Is it my impression, or someone is using the DagCoin abandoned thread, and DagCoin's name, to promote some MLM scam?
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October 13, 2017, 07:36:30 AM
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October 13, 2017, 09:32:24 AM
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I was speaking about byteball at a meetup tonight and i was told that it is inspired by iota. I can see iota is referenced in the whitepaper. So i am assuming the statement was correct. What makes it different. Im sorry if this has been asked before. perhaps you can point me in the right direction to learn more.

While I have outed myself as a massive FANBOY of Byteball I want some basic information availabe to everyone. I would point out that your meetup is a good representation at the current level
of awareness.

There may at some point arrive hard pissing matches who was the first.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directed_acyclic_graph
The concept is as you can see ... older.
It is hard to say who started development first.
Iota was the first to announce their project.
Byteball was first to arrive on marketplace.

Here you can look at some of the early mostly impartial or partially partisan writeups which are only somewhat outdated:

mostly impartial but be aware that tangleblog has a "buy Iota" written on its front page.
http://www.tangleblog.com/2017/01/03/byteball-vs-iota-token/  
with related discussion
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1888773.0

byteball partisan
https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@jimmco/byteball-vs-iota-battle-of-two-dag-cryptocurrencies

Here is another discussion the Iota reddit had on the topic of comparision
https://www.reddit.com/r/Iota/comments/6l06su/iota_vs_byteball/
you can use it to contrast the previous two articles.
Takehome messages here is for example that "Byteball 1% premine" vs. "IOTA 5% Devfund" are again partisan statements.

Portabella (one of the byteball witenesses) wrote the following summary:
https://byteroll.com/comparison-iota

If i can add my 2 cents to the current situation:
Both are independent projects. So comparisions are a bit ... funky.

Iota is a full funded ICO "foundation driven" investment vehicle with a 'mostly' clear cut specific (read: limited) usecase in mind.
It has made a lot of people alot of money and expect that any attack on it is an attack on them. Most of the links I have
given you are from Iota related webpages. They discuss the issue alot more than the Byteball community.

Byteball is a community driven ambitious young fresh take on what a Cryptographic Project can be and is currently
bootstrapping itself into existance. It has a long way ahead of itself and the projects I have seen myself convinced me
to take a strong stand in it. Future is already here, it is being distributed as we speak and more independent development is
in several chaotic pipelines. We can see what sticks. And we can get it done without running after any ICO maddness.


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October 13, 2017, 12:01:55 PM
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Byteball is known, unfortunately, as an altcoin although it has completely different characteristics compared to bitcoin. But traders and speculators are the market makers here. They pumped byteball hard in June/July to profit from the hype and they made it.
This is not a good time for Byteball but this is another coin to hold
 Grin

I'm not too sure its reputation as an altcoin affects it as much as its reputation as an airdrop coin. I haven't confirmed it but I think GBYTE has got to be the worst affected coin since BTC began its rise in July/August. The skipped (totally understandable) airdrop definitely didn't help.

It was not just the skipped airdrop. It was also the drop in the Bitcoin:BB distribution ratio. The correction was inevitable once the airdrop (almost) ended, but I didn't expect such a drastic drop with the change in distribution formula.

Yes, as a matter of fact the market is now pricing in the end of the BTC-related airdrop. A huge drop was expected for the end of the airdrop in several months from now, but the changing of rules has anticipated this moment. Now we have to patient before a new equilibrium is reached.

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October 13, 2017, 05:01:31 PM
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if I notice the Byteball price trend is almost the same as the Populous World, June, July and August skyrocket but after that the price continues to fall. What can we do to return the price like last july?

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October 13, 2017, 05:05:18 PM
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With the lack of marketing and resisting FUD from and association with the childish "iota", the price may go back to $10.

I for one am tired of being only 1 or 2 people calling out the FUD in this thread and reddit.

Look at all the shitcoins, blockchain clones, talked about everywhere and none of you guys mention Byteball. Why?

Can not have adoption or good distribution by being silent.
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October 13, 2017, 05:37:49 PM
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With the lack of marketing and resisting FUD from and association with the childish "iota", the price may go back to $10.

I for one am tired of being only 1 or 2 people calling out the FUD in this thread and reddit.

Look at all the shitcoins, blockchain clones, talked about everywhere and none of you guys mention Byteball. Why?

Can not have adoption or good distribution by being silent.

Because Byteball and DAG are 'niche' that's why.

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October 13, 2017, 05:51:17 PM
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I for one am tired of being only 1 or 2 people calling out the FUD in this thread and reddit.

Look at all the shitcoins, blockchain clones, talked about everywhere and none of you guys mention Byteball. Why?

Can not have adoption or good distribution by being silent.

Ahhhh, but you're not the only two.   Many other places

I'm on slack, irc, and discord.   AND, I've never dumped any byteball.
Also, I spend a lot of time helping people with their byteball wallets and understanding.

It's hard for people not to FUD, cause they only see one alt.  They don't actually see that nearly all alts are going down as it's being sold to buy Bitcoin with the pumps.

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October 13, 2017, 06:19:48 PM
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Yes alts are going down, but still I was buying at 0.33btc, at 0.22, at 0.18... so I am tired of buying at high prices. Basically in btc rate byteball lose 90% of value (0.4btc -> 0.033btc now), so it would be just better to hold btc. I do still believe in byteball and it would be stupid to sell now. I must take these losses  Sad

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October 13, 2017, 06:44:11 PM
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What can we do to return the price like last july?
The same question over and over again requires the same answer: By making this coin practical.
- Decentralized exchange of €uro/USD <> Bytes/Blackbytes directly from the Byteballwallet
- Rebranding (Byteball, Bytes, Blackbytes... no no no)
- Possibility to pay for goods and services directly with the Byteball Coin variants on a decentralized marketplace such as "Open Bazaar".


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October 13, 2017, 06:59:35 PM
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Once the altcoins will be upwards then surely Byteballs will see appreciation too. Many people are experienced and know better including team what steps can be taken to lift the byteball project up again. May be reactivating of old distribution pattern will bring some positive results again.

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Vacancy from Byteball.org:
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Great find! Dev is looking to hire others to help develop project. Can you confirm this is your listing tonych?
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October 13, 2017, 09:36:24 PM
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Because Byteball and DAG are 'niche' that's why.

Oh hi - its you again. Whats your protection in the niche when the Byteball community starts to get organized and raises awareness for the existence of DAGs vs Blockchains like privat shuttles vs public busses?

And the difference between a POW make the CPU glow DAG and a defense fee click'n'send DAG?


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Vacancy from Byteball.org:
Javascript/Node.js full-stack developer for crypto currency in Moscow. Salary 13 Gbyte ( or RUB, or BTC)

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Is that salary per month? $2k per month for crypto developer seems kinda low, even for Russia, no? I mean, Moscow can't be that cheap right?
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October 13, 2017, 09:58:08 PM
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Yes alts are going down, but still I was buying at 0.33btc, at 0.22, at 0.18... so I am tired of buying at high prices. Basically in btc rate byteball lose 90% of value (0.4btc -> 0.033btc now), so it would be just better to hold btc. I do still believe in byteball and it would be stupid to sell now. I must take these losses  Sad

Same here. Bought in .29-.35 initally. i kick myself sometimes when I think about all the btc wasted in some projects.  I've learned that no matter how good the tech is etc, it doesn't matter if the marketing & exposure don't align with it.  I'll hold my GB for now and just the price recovers.

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