Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments

[DaveF]

Stupid question. How can you tell which version of the wallet you are running?
I can't seem to find the "about" anywhere. Probably so obvious I missed it, just want to make sure that I'm on 3.1.0
I did an update the other day and *think* it was after this release but I'm not 100% sure.

-Dave

[tarmo888]

. All full nodes need to upgrade before that date.

I have the light Obyte client of 3.0.3 version. Being launched it said nothing about new release. I want to know if I should be worried about that. Is that upgrade mandatory for my  light client?

It's mandatory for full nodes to update before MCI 5494000, but it's not mandatory for light nodes, just recommended because it fixes some issues, especially on Linux. It also has some features like hiding unwanted smart-contracts and ability to require specific address from URI.

It's seems that Hubs are not made to notifying the wallet apps yet.

Is there any site/channel where you can always check regarding the updates for their wallet? Would it be their Discord channel or their Telegram is much better?

Update was posted here on Bitcointalk. Also on Discord, Telegram, Twitter and Reddit. There is also special channel on Discord called #gui-wallets that has bot, which posts about all the code changes to https://github.com/byteball/obyte-gui-wallet repository. There is summary of changes on each release https://github.com/byteball/obyte-gui-wallet/releases and if you can read code then you can look into each code commit too. On Discord, there is also #announcements channel, which you can also subscribe to as another Discord server or turn on notifications for only that channel.
https://obyte.org/discord

And eventually the wallet app will notify about new version too, depending on how urgent the update is.

[tarmo888]

Stupid question. How can you tell which version of the wallet you are running?
I can't seem to find the "about" anywhere. Probably so obvious I missed it, just want to make sure that I'm on 3.1.0
I did an update the other day and *think* it was after this release but I'm not 100% sure.

-Dave

If you click on the burger menu icon then the version is shown right below the logo. Also, if you go to "Settings" -> "About Obyte" then you can see version and GIT commit hash of that release too.

[U]

still can not trade BB?

[tarmo888]

still can not trade BB?

What do you mean by "still"? Always been traded.

Did BB traded publickly,if yes,where?

That info is on official website https://obyte.org/#exchanges
Any ideas how to get people to find it from there? https://blackbytes.io/
Becomes kind of annoying to answer same questions over and over.

[U]

still can not trade BB?

What do you mean by "still"? Always been traded.

He meant most likely to trade on centralized exchange and this matter has been discussed many times. BlackBites of Obyte are designed to be completely anonymous and if they were  traded on centralized exchange that anonymity would go away. Therefore only various realization of p2p trading is available for BB.

THX,See it.

[wudackprod]

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[CryptKeeper]

Thanks to "Made On Obyte" and Obyte, PolloPollo is first to test crowdfunding a bounty to further leverage the power of our P2P charitable model.

Juicy rewards up for backers as well ❤️

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[wudackprod]

Wallet update:
Version 3.2.0 released.
This is a mandatory upgrade that fixes a bug in transaction size calculation that could allow sending data for free.

Both full and light nodes need to upgrade.
All headless nodes need to npm update to update to the latest core version and restart.
The updated version is scheduled to be activated at MCI 5530000 which is expected around July 18. This is the deadline for the upgrade.

Also in this release:
- improved translations
- added human readable display of some smart contract clauses used by PolloPollo

https://github.com/byteball/obyte-gui-wallet/releases

[Steve_Safronoff]

Good morning gentlemen. I am Steve Safronoff, Partner and COO and Head of Business Development and Strategy/Plan Expert at Byteball. I have been on the team for 3 years, today I felt like it was finally time to see what is happening in the trenches. Byteball is running out of money but this to me means bigger opportunity. That is all for now, gentlemen. Onwards

[ifinta]

Good morning gentlemen. I am Steve Safronoff, Partner and COO and Head of Business Development and Strategy/Plan Expert at Byteball. I have been on the team for 3 years, today I felt like it was finally time to see what is happening in the trenches. Byteball is running out of money but this to me means bigger opportunity. That is all for now, gentlemen. Onwards

We sent some THANKs, to support with our 'No' Money your work. Many THANKs for your concept, your well done development, and for your support also!

https://www.facebook.com/vortexledger/photos/a.606340069783514/995379484212902/?type=3&theater

[tarmo888]

Wallet update:
Version 3.2.0 released.
This is a mandatory upgrade that fixes a bug in transaction size calculation that could allow sending data for free.

Both full and light nodes need to upgrade.
All headless nodes need to npm update to update to the latest core version and restart.
The updated version is scheduled to be activated at MCI 5530000 which is expected around July 18. This is the deadline for the upgrade.

Also in this release:
- improved translations
- added human readable display of some smart contract clauses used by PolloPollo

https://github.com/byteball/obyte-gui-wallet/releases

thanks, I have light Win 10 client and upgraded it  after downloading the .exe file from github. Yeah, it is digitally signed but why it is not accompanied by the hash sum? Sometimes the file may be corrupted even in the course of download  and that thing every time  bothering me.

Isn't the idea of digitally signing something that it also verifies that the file is a whole and not modified some way? Only thing that isn't digitally signed is the AppImage for Linux, which has a hash written down on release notes. All the digitally signed ones should warn you automatically if the file is corrupted or modified, so what good will an extra hash do? What's the point of additional hashes if verifying the executables is already built-into the OS.

Also, if you get tricked into downloading from fake Github, what would stop the fake Github from having fake hashes too? What you should look for instead is that the installer is signed by verified publisher: Byteball Foundation

[wudackprod]

We are continuing new integrations. A few days ago, Gbyte was added to the Finexbox exchange, liquidity is just starting to gain momentum, why don't you join its support?

Look for a pair of Gbyte / BTC: https://www.finexbox.com/
More exchanges you can find on the official website: https://www.obyte.org

[tonych]

DECENTRALIZATION is here! Obyte is the first DAG to become fully DECENTRALIZED!

The 7th Poll has ended and the chosen new Order Provider is the Institute For the Future (IFF) of the University of Nicosia.

Now 7 out of 12 Order Provider nodes are independent.

Thank you Rogier Eijkelhof, Fabien Marino, Bosch Connectory Stuttgart, PolloPollo, Bind Creative, Cryptoshare,  University of Nicosia, and everyone who voted in order provider polls for getting us here!

https://medium.com/obyte/obyte-achieves-full-decentralization-by-adding-university-of-nicosia-as-an-independent-order-baaef0505392

[wudackprod]

Not so long ago we released new site: https://madeonobyte.org/
We want to remind you that the PolloPollo project has already opened a crowdfunding on the Feedback module!

You can find it here - https://madeonobyte.org/funding/pollopollo-feedback-module-14qaq3qqzze
Also, you can start crowdfunding for your project on the platform - information is here - https://madeonobyte.org/news/howto-create-crowdfunding-campaign-9lx85qapzqp

[wudackprod]

Are you a developer or are interested in building an app or project on Obyte?🖥

Check out Obyte Github and find docs, tutorials, code and comments from Obyte's devs and collaborators.
Link: https://github.com/byteball
Discord: http://discord.obyte.org/

[wudackprod]

Obyte's Public Native Currency is "Bytes" ...but, Do you know Why?
The amount you pay is equal to the amount of data you want to store. Obyte's transaction fees are very low and accesible to everyone.

https://wiki.obyte.org/Overview#Native_currencies

[bobq]

I've been a fan of Obyte for over 3 years now, and it surely is one of the most interesting projects out there.
However, I still have doubts about its resilience. It should be government-resistant.
What would happen if a government would sent 12 agents to take care of the 12 Order Providers simulaneously? Could it bring down the network and maybe rewrite the history of the DAG?
I hope not, but I'd need to hear a convincing answer on why not. It's a question that deserves an answer.

[tarmo888]

I've been a fan of Obyte for over 3 years now, and it surely is one of the most interesting projects out there.
However, I still have doubts about its resilience. It should be government-resistant.
What would happen if a government would sent 12 agents to take care of the 12 Order Providers simulaneously? Could it bring down the network and maybe rewrite the history of the DAG?
I hope not, but I'd need to hear a convincing answer on why not. It's a question that deserves an answer.

Obyte is tyrannic government resistant, which means that unless all governments suddenly agree on something, there is no danger. The breaking point is actually 6-7 Order Providers, not 12 because if you take 6 out then there is no longer majority. If they take out 7 then they have the majority.
Getting all the governments suddenly co-operate with each other and agree on something like that is quite far fetched, especially when there is nothing illegal in what the full nodes are doing. Today, we no longer have majority of Order Proviers in one jurisdiction, so Obyte doesn't have a single-point failure https://stats.obyte.org/witnesses.php

If 6 governments indeed get simultaneously agents to knock on doors of 6 Order Providers then which judges are going to sign that? These 6 people should all have to be breaking some law for the agents to break in. So, Obyte is not in danger if one of the governments loses it's mind or one of the Order Providers is accused in something criminal. Running a full node is not criminal, posting transactions on cryptocurrency platform is not criminal either. Order Providers don't decide whose transaction is valid or not, the whole network does. Bitcoin is protected against same thing - multiple governments going mad, but Bitcoin miners actually decide whose transactions get confirmed, Obyte Order Providers doesn't. https://medium.com/obyte/from-blockchain-to-dag-getting-rid-of-middlemen-28afa7563545

In terms of what will happen if government seizes the machines, if it's even located in the same place as the Order Provider himself - the worst thing they can do is shut the machines down because if there is no majority of Order Providers posting anymore, no new transactions will get stable (confirmed). People could still post new transactions, but the part of the DAG with unstable transactions will not become stable. They could also modify the code and post transactions out of order, but that would just signal everyone that Order Provider is acting bad. They can't change the history, that's blockchain feature, not Obyte's.

If they somehow would get hands on majority of Order Providers (7) and make those post transactions out of order then that would just break the whole network and the community would need to hard-fork.

There is more about exact this thing on Obyte blog https://medium.com/obyte/dag-vs-blockchain-6d2d99f10bd9

[cuarc001]

This has probably been mentioned several times in the past, but I am not finding good and organized information that covers it clearly. When I try to send a payment in the wallet, I keep getting the message that I don't have enough spendable funds. My wallet consists of the rewards from running WCG. When I look in my history transactions, they all state that they are confirmed in the finality. How can I check in the wallet what my actual spendable amount is exactly? I did try transferring a much smaller amount and it went through. However, trying to send the bulk of it gives me the error. I'm sure if I clicked send all minus fees it would work, but a friend of mine saw that it didn't send all of his balance in one transaction.So, I'm assuming there is still something not fully spendable that isn't blatantly clear in the wallet. Can someone shine some light on how the wallet behaves and how to find your actual spendable amount?