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Author Topic: Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments  (Read 1216912 times)
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December 10, 2018, 08:14:44 AM
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Correct, the current version signs with the latest address (the one on the Receive tab).
Unless you are concerned about privacy, you can move your entire balance to the already linked address.

@tonych, do we need to link our addresses for every draw, or just once and we enter every week?

Link once, they stay linked for all future draws.

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December 10, 2018, 08:20:45 AM
Last edit: December 10, 2018, 09:53:55 AM by casper77
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when i sent my address to airdrop bot i got this error

An exception occurred: Error: [$parse:syntax] Syntax Error: Token ']' is unexpected, expecting [)] at column 47 of the expression [sendPayment('4IESIVJWFJ5HDMGVWUCANO3V4PL6ZYM5']</a>] starting at []</a>]. http://errors.angularjs.org/1.6.6/$parse/syntax?p0=%5D&p1=is%20unexpected%2C%20expecting%20%5B)%5D&p2=47&p3=sendPayment('4IESIVJWFJ5HDMGVWUCANO3V4PL6ZYM5'%5D%3C%2Fa%3E&p4=%5D%3C%2Fa%3E; cause: <a ng-click="sendPayment('4IESIVJWFJ5HDMGVWUCANO3V4PL6ZYM5']</a>

and OK button
now wallet always closes after pressing OK

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December 10, 2018, 09:30:57 AM
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Can anyone enter with multiple addresses ? I can only add one address, the next ones give an error, wants me to confirm/prove the new address with the first address over and over again.

you first have to enter the new address. then the signing will be done with this one.

Yeah that's what I do, add new address, enter new address and when I sign, it shows signing X (new) address by Y (old address) and gives an error. So in the message the new address appears but the signer is the old address.

Correct, the current version signs with the latest address (the one on the Receive tab).
Unless you are concerned about privacy, you can move your entire balance to the already linked address.

So it is impossible to add multiple addresses to the draw ? We have to send all bytes to the one addresses that's added?
BTW tonych, you should remove at least the lisk/iconomi from the draw, that does nothing for the people.

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December 10, 2018, 10:34:59 AM
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Correct, the current version signs with the latest address (the one on the Receive tab).
Unless you are concerned about privacy, you can move your entire balance to the already linked address.

@tonych, do we need to link our addresses for every draw, or just once and we enter every week?

Link once, they stay linked for all future draws.

Thanks! I would prefer a distro that gets paid proportionally to everyone who links, but I guess if the draw runs for many months statistically it might work out similar, sort of like solo mining vs pools. The main thing is the distro is restarting based on BB ownership, and that creates more incentives to buy BB, well done for that!
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December 10, 2018, 10:56:34 AM
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Can anyone enter with multiple addresses ? I can only add one address, the next ones give an error, wants me to confirm/prove the new address with the first address over and over again.

you first have to enter the new address. then the signing will be done with this one.

Yeah that's what I do, add new address, enter new address and when I sign, it shows signing X (new) address by Y (old address) and gives an error. So in the message the new address appears but the signer is the old address.

Correct, the current version signs with the latest address (the one on the Receive tab).
Unless you are concerned about privacy, you can move your entire balance to the already linked address.

So it is impossible to add multiple addresses to the draw ? We have to send all bytes to the one addresses that's added?
BTW tonych, you should remove at least the lisk/iconomi from the draw, that does nothing for the people.

It is possible. You have to delete last address from my_addresses table.
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December 10, 2018, 11:01:16 AM
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However, this will not lead to efficient dissemination either. This can only be achieved through real benefits (which neither the regime nor its devotees are interested in providing).

But basically nobody is interested in that either. The less people participate in the current gamble the greater the chance for the individual to win...
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December 10, 2018, 01:23:42 PM
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when i sent my address to airdrop bot i got this error

An exception occurred: Error: [$parse:syntax] Syntax Error: Token ']' is unexpected, expecting [)] at column 47 of the expression [sendPayment('4IESIVJWFJ5HDMGVWUCANO3V4PL6ZYM5']</a>] starting at []</a>]. http://errors.angularjs.org/1.6.6/$parse/syntax?p0=%5D&p1=is%20unexpected%2C%20expecting%20%5B)%5D&p2=47&p3=sendPayment('4IESIVJWFJ5HDMGVWUCANO3V4PL6ZYM5'%5D%3C%2Fa%3E&p4=%5D%3C%2Fa%3E; cause: <a ng-click="sendPayment('4IESIVJWFJ5HDMGVWUCANO3V4PL6ZYM5']</a>

and OK button
now wallet always closes after pressing OK

You are probably on v2.5 or earlier, download v2.6 wallet app.
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December 10, 2018, 01:33:41 PM
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So it is impossible to add multiple addresses to the draw ? We have to send all bytes to the one addresses that's added?
BTW tonych, you should remove at least the lisk/iconomi from the draw, that does nothing for the people.

It is possible. You have to delete last address from my_addresses table.

I wouldn't manipulate the database like that.
If you have wallet that has multiple addresses, just send all the funds to the address displayed in Receive tab, do that with each wallet you have.
You don't have to send all the wallets into one wallet, you can add to draw bot each wallet current address separately.
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December 10, 2018, 01:49:13 PM
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Sorry guys, but I cannot NOT ask this question:

Why are you giving away coins just like that, instead of paying with them for bounties,
where new users are added to Byteball army, more SEO is added, more bot devs, etc??

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December 10, 2018, 02:27:09 PM
Last edit: December 10, 2018, 02:42:28 PM by pineapple express
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Sorry guys, but I cannot NOT ask this question:

Why are you giving away coins just like that, instead of paying with them for bounties,
where new users are added to Byteball army, more SEO is added, more bot devs, etc??
because nobody want to hold illiquid shit and dump it immediately. Now byter army get at least one reason to hold or EVEN buy Grin
btw devs do not create bots because it's unprofitable. If it were profitable, they would come without donations. No sense to subsidise useless things
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December 10, 2018, 03:34:56 PM
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Posting on this forum is a waste of time, full of Indian signature spammers. Post on reddit instead https://www.reddit.com/r/ByteBall/
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December 10, 2018, 04:37:48 PM
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Sorry guys, but I cannot NOT ask this question:

Why are you giving away coins just like that, instead of paying with them for bounties,
where new users are added to Byteball army, more SEO is added, more bot devs, etc??
Justified questions will not be answered here.
The demand to pay a team of programmers who develop a real benefit for a specific target group has been around for almost two years.

As far as the useless bots are concerned I can only agree with pineapple.
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December 10, 2018, 06:09:14 PM
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* Unattested addresses get 0.1 point per GB of balance.
* 0.1 point is awarded for each GB of balance increase since the previous draw.
* 0.2 point is deducted for each GB of balance decrease since the previous draw.
Question: If you have 1 GBYTE at the draw, and 2 GB at the next draw, does that count at 0.2 points PLUS 0.1 point for the increase (0.3 points total)? If so, this can be abused, right? Move all GBYTE to another address after each draw and earn more points.
Or does it mean you'll get 0.1 point from the previous draw, plus 0.1 point for the increase (0.2 points total)?


Too bad the difference for attested addresses is that high. I'd love to get 10 times more points and enjoy the "non-whale benefits", but I prefer to remain anonymous.

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December 10, 2018, 06:42:22 PM
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Byteball founder no longer posts on Bitcointalk, only Reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/ByteBall/comments/9yfbvt/i_am_tony_byteball_founder_and_lead_developer_ask/
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December 10, 2018, 06:45:59 PM
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Too bad the difference for attested addresses is that high. I'd love to get 10 times more points and enjoy the "non-whale benefits", but I prefer to remain anonymous.

You reveal your identity only to Jumio, all real name attestations are private on Byteball DAG. Or have you managed to use cryptocurrencies without revealing anything about you? Even the email you use on exchange can be traced back to you. Do you use TOR everywhere?
Or you suspect that real name attestation could be bugged and you reveal yourself to Tony?
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December 10, 2018, 06:52:33 PM
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You reveal your identity only to Jumio
That part is clear to me, and that's the part I'm not ready to do.

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December 10, 2018, 07:27:46 PM
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You reveal your identity only to Jumio
That part is clear to me, and that's the part I'm not ready to do.
Is the problem just Jumio or any KYC service?
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December 10, 2018, 07:51:11 PM
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Real name attestation costs 258MB!

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December 10, 2018, 08:09:36 PM
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You reveal your identity only to Jumio
That part is clear to me, and that's the part I'm not ready to do.
Is the problem just Jumio or any KYC service?

I believe at some point boss Tony said that he (at least in theory) could see the identity information linked to specific addresses if he wanted to. I think he implied her had not and had no reason to, but is this not the case?
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December 10, 2018, 08:52:45 PM
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You reveal your identity only to Jumio
That part is clear to me, and that's the part I'm not ready to do.
Is the problem just Jumio or any KYC service?

I believe at some point boss Tony said that he (at least in theory) could see the identity information linked to specific addresses if he wanted to. I think he implied her had not and had no reason to, but is this not the case?

Checked the code, Jumio data is stored in bot database, so it could post the attestation hash to DAG when it has time to do so
https://github.com/byteball/real-name-attestation/blob/34e9ba9e63395d92ad71311907a28b7222e8cd40/attestation.js#L187

At the moment, it seems that cleanup of that data is turned off
https://github.com/byteball/real-name-attestation/blob/34e9ba9e63395d92ad71311907a28b7222e8cd40/modules/real_name_attestation.js#L160

I don't have a Jumio developer account, but it would make sense if that same data is accessible from Jumio dashboard too.
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