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January 18, 2014, 04:58:37 PM
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so thats where all the jupiters went.....thanks knc. real nice....
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January 18, 2014, 05:07:11 PM
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So, Q1 which ends March 31 = 72 days is not going to happen, right? Is April a possibility now or are we looking at May? I feel like a complete rube at this point.

dude, you are no noob as far as i know. you were here in this thread at least since last august so you should fckn know by now that any asic-vendor-delivery date will always be at the very end of the expected timeline.
so that leads us to neptunes being delivered maybe in june or (as delays are no stranger to this business) even july for batch#1.

you, as a "veteran" should know this by now.
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January 18, 2014, 05:26:17 PM
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I'm not being vague.

I've just got back to Stockholm and got you an update immediately, as promised. The first day I'm back.

Your freaking out about the Neptune design and it's exactly where it needs to be.

It's been worked on throughout Christmas. They have a working FPGA copy. That's quite significant progress as is. 20nm is absolute breakneck cutting edge tech and they don't want to screw the design up. They started just before Christmas and they are already at this stage. Would I call it preliminary design? yes I would. I would call everything before RTL submission that. Would you rather I lie? You claim I'm being vague and I'm actually being very specific. I've told you precisely where we are at without giving away anything of significant competitive sensitivity. I could be vague and just say it's all on track and you'd be none the wiser. Where do you expect them to be at this stage after working solidly through Christmas?! Designs aren't just pulled out of hats and components need to be sourced in volume with short lead times and guess what a lot of those guys take Christmas off. Rest assured what needs to be done is being done and the Q1/Q2 delivery estimation is there to give us the breathing space to do it professionally and to a level of competency that we believe is achievable.

Also first thing I was told on arrival was they sold out of Neptunes the night before. Do not shoot the messenger. If Andreas/Sam are going to add to the stock overnight between Friday/Saturday - nothing to do with me, but I'd be surprised if they did as they gave no impression they would and I was at the office later than they were.


there is no time to lose!

hf, ct, bitmine and now bfl has allready their Chips produced. the hashrate will explode in next few weeks!

we need the neptune soon and twice faster as promissed!

if there will be new Jupiters, they should do 1th/s Minimum. and must be released asap!

hf, ct, bitmine and bfl will begin now spaming  very huge hashpower with no break till the End of all life on earth!



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January 18, 2014, 05:43:48 PM
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If KnC just wants to exercise their machines and easily observe their NPS, since they know who bought Saturns and Mercurys, and since they know how many upgrade modules those buyers purchased, they can calculate how many unfilled positions there remain of the October orders and send out offers of upgrade modules only to those customers with *possible* open module positions and offer only enough to fill those boxes bringing them all up to Jupiters. (I have a Merc with two open positions.)



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Yeah, no more controller cards because Sam sold them all to his brother.  This explains their shifty behavior.  It didn't make sense that they were willing to let their customers go to their competitors but now it does.  They are moving into cloud-hashing with Sam's brother and just like CEX.io.  I think O'rama mentioned something about submersion cooling in his interview at CES that now makes more sense.

My prediction is Neptune will be their last consumer device and they are only offering it to pay for the development cost of 20nm.  Once they have the masks, they will no longer sell to consumers and likely only sell to Byteminer.
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January 18, 2014, 06:26:28 PM
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fuck
well done KNC
another bomb


next week ask refund neptune

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January 18, 2014, 06:42:19 PM
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So, Q1 which ends March 31 = 72 days is not going to happen, right? Is April a possibility now or are we looking at May? I feel like a complete rube at this point.

dude, you are no noob as far as i know. you were here in this thread at least since last august so you should fckn know by now that any asic-vendor-delivery date will always be at the very end of the expected timeline.
so that leads us to neptunes being delivered maybe in june or (as delays are no stranger to this business) even july for batch#1.

you, as a "veteran" should know this by now.

I wanted clarification from a company rep before I make a decision on what to do. I ask questions here for others benefit as well just not my own. KnC slipped close to their target last time so i sort of assumed they might do it this time too,but that is not the case. you are right.... these guys are just the same as the others now.
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January 18, 2014, 06:44:51 PM
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Yeah, no more controller cards because Sam sold them all to his brother.  This explains their shifty behavior.  It didn't make sense that they were willing to let their customers go to their competitors but now it does.  They are moving into cloud-hashing with Sam's brother and just like CEX.io.  I think O'rama mentioned something about submersion cooling in his interview at CES that now makes more sense.

My prediction is Neptune will be their last consumer device and they are only offering it to pay for the development cost of 20nm.  Once they have the masks, they will no longer sell to consumers and likely only sell to Byteminer.

Orama did mention that it's all coming down to low cost power and he mentioned Iceland, which is where Cloud Hashing are based.

My guess is knc, byteminer and cloud hashing are partnering up. You heard it here first!

This is a very good clue my guess is correct:
https://www.facebook.com/cloudhashing/posts/401192233348915

So it's probably going to be knc, not hashfast or cointerra, that make our jupiters worthless in a week or two. Oh the irony!

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So, Q1 which ends March 31 = 72 days is not going to happen, right? Is April a possibility now or are we looking at May? I feel like a complete rube at this point.

dude, you are no noob as far as i know. you were here in this thread at least since last august so you should fckn know by now that any asic-vendor-delivery date will always be at the very end of the expected timeline.
so that leads us to neptunes being delivered maybe in june or (as delays are no stranger to this business) even july for batch#1.

you, as a "veteran" should know this by now.

I wanted clarification from a company rep before I make a decision on what to do. I ask questions here for others benefit as well just not my own. KnC sjipped close to their tarvet last time so i sort of assumed they might do it this time too,but that is not the case. you are right.... these guys are just the same as the others now.

KNC shipped at the very end of their expected timeline last time.

remember they said "summer" at first then "september" and finally shipped beginning of october. so it was more of a timeframe and not a "target".

and this time its basically the same, although the timeframe is a little wider this time, and that leads us to the same expectations as last time.

-> end of Q2 beginning of Q3

everything else is seen as a nice surprise
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Yeah, no more controller cards because Sam sold them all to his brother.  This explains their shifty behavior.  It didn't make sense that they were willing to let their customers go to their competitors but now it does.  They are moving into cloud-hashing with Sam's brother and just like CEX.io.  I think O'rama mentioned something about submersion cooling in his interview at CES that now makes more sense.

My prediction is Neptune will be their last consumer device and they are only offering it to pay for the development cost of 20nm.  Once they have the masks, they will no longer sell to consumers and likely only sell to Byteminer.

Orama did mention that it's all coming down to low cost power and he mentioned Iceland, which is where Cloud Hashing are based.

My guess is knc, byteminer and cloud hashing are partnering up. You heard it here first!

This is a very good clue my guess is correct:
https://www.facebook.com/cloudhashing/posts/401192233348915

So it's probably going to be knc, not hashfast or cointerra, that make our jupiters worthless in a week or two. Oh the irony!


Wow, how are they significantly increasing their hash rate at the end of January? HashLast has stated Jan 28th for their revised^10 timeline, or did they manage to get the remaining controller boards?

I've got several of the antminers, they're actually quite nice. I'm running 2 per 860W Seasonic (That I bought for Nov jupiters) Running strong and running quiet



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Yeah, no more controller cards because Sam sold them all to his brother.  This explains their shifty behavior.  It didn't make sense that they were willing to let their customers go to their competitors but now it does.  They are moving into cloud-hashing with Sam's brother and just like CEX.io.  I think O'rama mentioned something about submersion cooling in his interview at CES that now makes more sense.

My prediction is Neptune will be their last consumer device and they are only offering it to pay for the development cost of 20nm.  Once they have the masks, they will no longer sell to consumers and likely only sell to Byteminer.

Orama did mention that it's all coming down to low cost power and he mentioned Iceland, which is where Cloud Hashing are based.

My guess is knc, byteminer and cloud hashing are partnering up. You heard it here first!

This is a very good clue my guess is correct:
https://www.facebook.com/cloudhashing/posts/401192233348915

So it's probably going to be knc, not hashfast or cointerra, that make our jupiters worthless in a week or two. Oh the irony!


Wow, how are they significantly increasing their hash rate at the end of January? HashLast has stated Jan 28th for their revised^10 timeline, or did they manage to get the remaining controller boards?

I've got several of the antminers, they're actually quite nice. I'm running 2 per 860W Seasonic (That I bought for Nov jupiters) Running strong and running quiet




Antminer performance is terrible in comparison though, I've been selling all my antminers to by second hand October batch machines, which seems to be the right choice with only upgrade boards coming ahead.



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It helps to remember that once these outlive their profitability they have no use.  They can't be used for video games, they can't be used for distributed computing in the search for extraterrestrials nor can they be used with folding@home investigating protein folding.



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January 18, 2014, 08:00:18 PM
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damnit knc, why did you have to remove ports 5 & 6 from the Nov Jups.  Sad

Some of the Oct Jupiters were shipped with only 4 ports as well. Not really fair for those that planned to upgrade them.

$2 in parts, a little soldering skills....



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Yeah, no more controller cards because Sam sold them all to his brother.  This explains their shifty behavior.  It didn't make sense that they were willing to let their customers go to their competitors but now it does.  They are moving into cloud-hashing with Sam's brother and just like CEX.io.  I think O'rama mentioned something about submersion cooling in his interview at CES that now makes more sense.

My prediction is Neptune will be their last consumer device and they are only offering it to pay for the development cost of 20nm.  Once they have the masks, they will no longer sell to consumers and likely only sell to Byteminer.

Orama did mention that it's all coming down to low cost power and he mentioned Iceland, which is where Cloud Hashing are based.

My guess is knc, byteminer and cloud hashing are partnering up. You heard it here first!

This is a very good clue my guess is correct:
https://www.facebook.com/cloudhashing/posts/401192233348915

So it's probably going to be knc, not hashfast or cointerra, that make our jupiters worthless in a week or two. Oh the irony!


Wow, how are they significantly increasing their hash rate at the end of January? HashLast has stated Jan 28th for their revised^10 timeline, or did they manage to get the remaining controller boards?

I've got several of the antminers, they're actually quite nice. I'm running 2 per 860W Seasonic (That I bought for Nov jupiters) Running strong and running quiet




Antminer performance is terrible in comparison though, I've been selling all my antminers to by second hand October batch machines, which seems to be the right choice with only upgrade boards coming ahead.



1 x jupeter OC = 640GH for 750w (quiet, cool and neat)
3 x Ants OC = 600GH for 1500w+ (noise, hot and messy)


Your numbers are off, so don't exaggerate.

My November Jupes use 875W each and hash at about 675 GH.

My Ants use ~380W each and hash at about 190GH, so the power usage differential is not as bad as you made it out to be.

There is no way 3 Ants use 1500W unless you have a really crappy power supply. They use more like 1200W at the wall.

Ants use about 2W/GH at the wall. November Jupiters use about 1.3W/GH at the wall.
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Your numbers are off, so don't exaggerate.

My November Jupes use 875W each and hash at about 675 GH.

My Ants use ~380W each and hash at about 190GH, so the power usage differential is not as bad as you made it out to be.

There is no way 3 Ants use 1500W unless you have a really crappy power supply. They use more like 1200W at the wall.

Ants use about 2W/GH at the wall. November Jupiters use about 1.3W/GH at the wall.

I said october jupiter, it is pulling 750-780w and running 650 -640GH per second.


My unlocked Ant gives 180GH for 380W a friends clocked one gives 205GH for 480w so my numbers are not to far off, just rounded up/down.


edit: NOVEMBER jupiters were always terrible GH/W ratio in my opinion, hence why i said October.

When you got your NOVEMBER i got an upgrade board, which gave me 700GH (5 x 140) for about 760w, better performance than you got.

Edit: I am completely sorry, I did not even say October Jupiter, I did say an OC jupiter though and november can not be OC yet as far as i am aware.

edit: if anyone wanted proof. KnC october 4 board hashing at 639gh/s drawing 670w, including the control board it reads at 750w

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January 18, 2014, 08:34:22 PM
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OMG OMG OMG Despite all that's happened, I've been so blessed this morning with news I finally got an agreement for 100% of the farm stock in exchange for a small portion of my KNC/BTC earnings...  Almost ten years into this...  I can finally liquidate. Long story, but KNC made this possible... I could cry I'm so happy.


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January 18, 2014, 08:51:47 PM
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Need some help guys, I reflashed my 99.1-t miner to 99.1-t so that I could get rid of bfgminer and now my miner has changed ips's and I cannot ssh or access its web interface. Also its drawing 235 watts. I tried to do the 5 presses 5 seconds 5 press and then I rebooted and that did not do that trick so I think I need to try the sd card reflash. Has anyone done this?


Does anyone know how to perform the sd card reflash?

Thanks!
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January 18, 2014, 09:05:34 PM
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Hey 'Orama!

We all knew it it's Q1/Q2. Part of the gamble.

But we have to remain competetive against other asic companies. So I think not Neptune is the bigger problem. The bigger problem is that you doesn't want to sell Jupiters until the Neptunes.

It's not customer protection, it's bullshit if you sell only upgrade modules. As I stated before, I had big trust in Knc and I was a happy customer. I "KEPT MY COINS HANDY" to buy Jupters to get enough hashpower to stay competetive.

Then no news. I bought 7 Antminer.

Still no news.

Then you come here and the that only upgrade modules and this bottleneck shit.

So please tell Sam an Andreas to give as an offical statement about Jupiters.

WILL BE AVALIABE FOR SALE? IF YES WHEN?

IF NO, TELL US STRAIGHT!

If no, we have to buy hashrate from other companies to REAMAIN COMPETETIVE.

And I repeat myself, I don't care about Neptunes. I think they will a good deal. I care about the next 3-4 months.


Well said ElGabo


Orama

There seems  to be a lot of speculation based on the lack of News Reports.........your last post seems to have left more questions  than answers ...........How about getting KnC to put out some definite News ............this forum is starting to get the same vibe as bfl and Josh .

News Report , Definite answers , Clarity ..........That will calm this angry crowd ...........

People have a long memory.........and the internet will expose  your integrity and shame
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January 18, 2014, 09:12:40 PM
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Wow Pete.....   had your coffee yet...?   You're my good friend, so I'll smite thee just a tad.....
DONT KILL THE MESSENGER PLEASE
Although, I may agree, there's no arguing those viewpoints


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January 18, 2014, 09:28:33 PM
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KNC should also get into other great bitcoin tech for when miner sales start to decline.

have a look at this from BFL
http://www.butterflylabs.com/bitcoin-hardware-wallet/  I like it... and want one of course, but from BFL Undecided I'll have to wait and see

or what about KNC bitcoin vending machines or ATM's

sorry for the OT but I wouldn't touch  a BFL hw wallet with a ten foot pole.

Mind you I really think the  concept per se is very useful, but please look harder for some other providers.

Bitcoin is a participatory system which ought to respect the right of self determinism of all of its users - Gregory Maxwell.
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