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January 22, 2014, 10:39:42 PM
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Keeping mine.  Maybe foolish.  Prefer to mine the btc instead of watching the btc price chart, reacting emotionally to every scare tactic the traders can foist.

Perhaps my efforts to conjole KnC planners to produce and market anything that can hash soon are a mistake.

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January 22, 2014, 10:56:08 PM
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Anyone of you have good experience with Corsair AX1200i for the november jupiters?
I can buy them cheap in bulk, but I remember horrible stories with Corsair PSU with the october Jupiters.
So I ask your advice first.
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January 22, 2014, 10:56:45 PM
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anyone ask refund neptune?

a more revealing question would be, has anyone NOT asked for a neptune refund...?

I have 4 neptunes on order from the previous customer batch.    At this point, they still look like a solid purchase.   Each one was around 10BTC.   I have no idea how the hell I am going to power them and hope that some hosting options open up.   I'm sure I can get an electrician in and things will work out but at this point, I don't have a plan for that.

40grand!! u rock bruh!!

dont worry yourself about powering them up yet, they dont know yet either.

all we can do is pray that they pull a 6Th rabbit out of their hat while BTC reaches around 5000usd (aka da m00n) - then we're sorted!!  0.01btc per day yo!!!


see what i did there jelin? do you see? 

i READ the previous post, then posted accordingly.

6TH would be nice, but I can't even see that using a standard plug. That baby will be like hooking up a gas dryer, along those lines, which uses bookuu power.

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January 22, 2014, 10:57:43 PM
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Think again. $40k gets you 5 TH delivered next week. By the time you get the Neptunes, difficulty will be much higher. 5 TH now is far more profitable than 12 TH several months from now.
5th next week? Who sells them?
25+ Antminers from Bitmain.
https://www.bitmaintech.com/product.htm
3th of Antminers = 5kw (by taking 300watts per Antminer) = 31.654BTC (without shipping) = 25.8k $
3th of Neptunes = 2.5kw = 14.6BTC = 12k $

Two times more $$$ and watts for the same hash-power.

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January 22, 2014, 11:08:47 PM
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Think again. $40k gets you 5 TH delivered next week. By the time you get the Neptunes, difficulty will be much higher. 5 TH now is far more profitable than 12 TH several months from now.
5th next week? Who sells them?
25+ Antminers from Bitmain.
https://www.bitmaintech.com/product.htm
3th of Antminers = 5kw (by taking 300watts per Antminer) = 31.654BTC (without shipping) = 25.8k $
3th of Neptunes = 2.5kw = 14.6BTC = 12k $

Two times more $$$ and watts for the same hash-power.

when is that neptune shipping?

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January 22, 2014, 11:09:06 PM
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Think again. $40k gets you 5 TH delivered next week. By the time you get the Neptunes, difficulty will be much higher. 5 TH now is far more profitable than 12 TH several months from now.
5th next week? Who sells them?
25+ Antminers from Bitmain.
https://www.bitmaintech.com/product.htm
3th of Antminers = 5kw (by taking 300watts per Antminer) = 31.654BTC (without shipping) = 25.8k $
3th of Neptunes = 2.5kw = 14.6BTC = 12k $

Two times more $$$ and watts for the same hash-power.

Don't forget to discount antminers with profits they will make until Neptune is in your hands.
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January 22, 2014, 11:13:58 PM
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Think again. $40k gets you 5 TH delivered next week. By the time you get the Neptunes, difficulty will be much higher. 5 TH now is far more profitable than 12 TH several months from now.
5th next week? Who sells them?
25+ Antminers from Bitmain.
https://www.bitmaintech.com/product.htm
3th of Antminers = 5kw (by taking 300watts per Antminer) = 31.654BTC (without shipping) = 25.8k $
3th of Neptunes = 2.5kw = 14.6BTC = 12k $

Two times more $$$ and watts for the same hash-power.

There is a really big difference here. You really can't even get a Neptune for at least another several months so why even compare right now?

All my friends requested refunds also for their Neptunes. In the bunch I think there was like 18 of them. Don't be surprised if you see some go on sale or we hear some news from KNC now. Once they see their very loyal customer base is dumping them out I'm pretty sure we'll eventually hear some thing from them soon. They only have one spokesperson here who isn't a sales person and can't really confirm on anything since all decisions are made by Sam. Only a matter of time we'll hear something. Once you are a millionaire and see possible money that could be yours leaving your bank account it starts to make you worry, no matter how much you have.


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January 22, 2014, 11:14:49 PM
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Think again. $40k gets you 5 TH delivered next week. By the time you get the Neptunes, difficulty will be much higher. 5 TH now is far more profitable than 12 TH several months from now.
5th next week? Who sells them?
25+ Antminers from Bitmain.
https://www.bitmaintech.com/product.htm
3th of Antminers = 5kw (by taking 300watts per Antminer) = 31.654BTC (without shipping) = 25.8k $
3th of Neptunes = 2.5kw = 14.6BTC = 12k $

Two times more $$$ and watts for the same hash-power.

when is that neptune shipping?
Summertime. September. October. No later than October 15th. October 31st... etc

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January 22, 2014, 11:21:48 PM
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3th of Antminers = 5kw (by taking 300watts per Antminer) = 31.654BTC (without shipping) = 25.8k $
3th of Neptunes = 2.5kw = 14.6BTC = 12k $

Two times more $$$ and watts for the same hash-power.

There is a really big difference here. You really can't even get a Neptune for at least another several months so why even compare right now?
The winner in the mining game is the one who as the most power efficient machine (or the one with free electricity).
I know Neptune's will be hashing while Antminer's will be turned off because they use to much electricity.

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January 22, 2014, 11:22:57 PM
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I am eager to hear about Neptunes hosting solutions.
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January 22, 2014, 11:23:51 PM
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Think again. $40k gets you 5 TH delivered next week. By the time you get the Neptunes, difficulty will be much higher. 5 TH now is far more profitable than 12 TH several months from now.
5th next week? Who sells them?
25+ Antminers from Bitmain.
https://www.bitmaintech.com/product.htm
3th of Antminers = 5kw (by taking 300watts per Antminer) = 31.654BTC (without shipping) = 25.8k $
3th of Neptunes = 2.5kw = 14.6BTC = 12k $

Two times more $$$ and watts for the same hash-power.

There is a really big difference here. You really can't even get a Neptune for at least another several months so why even compare right now?

All my friends requested refunds also for their Neptunes. In the bunch I think there was like 18 of them. Don't be surprised if you see some go on sale or we hear some news from KNC now. Once they see their very loyal customer base is dumping them out I'm pretty sure we'll eventually hear some thing from them soon. They only have one spokesperson here who isn't a sales person and can't really confirm on anything since all decisions are made by Sam. Only a matter of time we'll hear something. Once you are a millionaire and see possible money that could be yours leaving your bank account it starts to make you worry, no matter how much you have.



Or those of us who stand pat get extra hashing power or some other recompense. 



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January 22, 2014, 11:26:38 PM
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Think again. $40k gets you 5 TH delivered next week. By the time you get the Neptunes, difficulty will be much higher. 5 TH now is far more profitable than 12 TH several months from now.
5th next week? Who sells them?
25+ Antminers from Bitmain.
https://www.bitmaintech.com/product.htm
3th of Antminers = 5kw (by taking 300watts per Antminer) = 31.654BTC (without shipping) = 25.8k $
3th of Neptunes = 2.5kw = 14.6BTC = 12k $

Two times more $$$ and watts for the same hash-power.

There is a really big difference here. You really can't even get a Neptune for at least another several months so why even compare right now?

All my friends requested refunds also for their Neptunes. In the bunch I think there was like 18 of them. Don't be surprised if you see some go on sale or we hear some news from KNC now. Once they see their very loyal customer base is dumping them out I'm pretty sure we'll eventually hear some thing from them soon. They only have one spokesperson here who isn't a sales person and can't really confirm on anything since all decisions are made by Sam. Only a matter of time we'll hear something. Once you are a millionaire and see possible money that could be yours leaving your bank account it starts to make you worry, no matter how much you have.

knc sold the last batch with no refunds possible, so that is $12million they have for sure. Some other people will stick it out, because they have the money and it doesn't matter to them. Or they think they have the stronger nerve/smarter than everyone else.

So out of the $44million knc took, even if they have massive refunds, they will probably still have 1/2 of that by the time they ship. That should still cover all their costs.

I imagine any machines they refund are going to some cloud hashing venture.

But yeah, I'm sure they don't like to see millions of $$$ flood out of their account, especially after they have been bragging about how much they pocketed in December Grin

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January 22, 2014, 11:29:05 PM
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Think again. $40k gets you 5 TH delivered next week. By the time you get the Neptunes, difficulty will be much higher. 5 TH now is far more profitable than 12 TH several months from now.
5th next week? Who sells them?
25+ Antminers from Bitmain.
https://www.bitmaintech.com/product.htm
3th of Antminers = 5kw (by taking 300watts per Antminer) = 31.654BTC (without shipping) = 25.8k $
3th of Neptunes = 2.5kw = 14.6BTC = 12k $

Two times more $$$ and watts for the same hash-power.

Timing is EVERYTHING, and it may offset that price difference. Who knows... I'm HODL mode w/ my Neptune order. We'll see...
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January 22, 2014, 11:29:10 PM
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The winner in the mining game is the one who as the most power efficient machine (or the one with free electricity).
I know Neptune's will be hashing while Antminer's will be turned off because they use to much electricity.


that is sooo 2 gen's ago...  not sure difficulty will ever level off for this to ever matter...  too much crazy money now

power costs haven't meant anything since Oct and you own KNC hardware so you should know that!


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January 22, 2014, 11:35:42 PM
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Think again. $40k gets you 5 TH delivered next week. By the time you get the Neptunes, difficulty will be much higher. 5 TH now is far more profitable than 12 TH several months from now.
5th next week? Who sells them?
25+ Antminers from Bitmain.
https://www.bitmaintech.com/product.htm
3th of Antminers = 5kw (by taking 300watts per Antminer) = 31.654BTC (without shipping) = 25.8k $
3th of Neptunes = 2.5kw = 14.6BTC = 12k $

Two times more $$$ and watts for the same hash-power.

There is a really big difference here. You really can't even get a Neptune for at least another several months so why even compare right now?

All my friends requested refunds also for their Neptunes. In the bunch I think there was like 18 of them. Don't be surprised if you see some go on sale or we hear some news from KNC now. Once they see their very loyal customer base is dumping them out I'm pretty sure we'll eventually hear some thing from them soon. They only have one spokesperson here who isn't a sales person and can't really confirm on anything since all decisions are made by Sam. Only a matter of time we'll hear something. Once you are a millionaire and see possible money that could be yours leaving your bank account it starts to make you worry, no matter how much you have.



Or those of us who stand pat get extra hashing power or some other recompense.  

I am hoping that KnC sets up hosting in Iceland or Kansas, provide opportunity to put in our Neptunes and have a reasonable monthly rate. Neptune might become just a bunch of boards covered with Novec in a facility with cheap electricity somewhere. This would allow us to replace old chips with new on site as newer will be developed. In fact, the ideal situation for KnC would be for us just to have certain hashpower and have 5-10% in reserve which they can use to replenish broken units and in the mean time use to hash for themselves. I definitely think something like this could be and should be developed. Do you remember that Jupiter was supposed to be water cooled initially?
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January 23, 2014, 12:07:56 AM
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the last batch of neptunes was no refunds?! holy, didnt know that.
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January 23, 2014, 12:15:10 AM
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the last batch of neptunes was no refunds?! holy, didnt know that.

KNC used to be very customer friendly, but not anymore. Now you get:
No refunds
No PayPal/Credit cards accepted
No plausible explanations on decisions they make, but just quoting the word "procedures"

I remember back in August when Sam Cole was willing to talk with his customers for hours over the phone, but now he is extremely busy.

I am also very close at refunding my Neptunes...

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January 23, 2014, 12:16:29 AM
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Think again. $40k gets you 5 TH delivered next week. By the time you get the Neptunes, difficulty will be much higher. 5 TH now is far more profitable than 12 TH several months from now.
5th next week? Who sells them?
25+ Antminers from Bitmain.
https://www.bitmaintech.com/product.htm
3th of Antminers = 5kw (by taking 300watts per Antminer) = 31.654BTC (without shipping) = 25.8k $
3th of Neptunes = 2.5kw = 14.6BTC = 12k $

Two times more $$$ and watts for the same hash-power.

There is a really big difference here. You really can't even get a Neptune for at least another several months so why even compare right now?

All my friends requested refunds also for their Neptunes. In the bunch I think there was like 18 of them. Don't be surprised if you see some go on sale or we hear some news from KNC now. Once they see their very loyal customer base is dumping them out I'm pretty sure we'll eventually hear some thing from them soon. They only have one spokesperson here who isn't a sales person and can't really confirm on anything since all decisions are made by Sam. Only a matter of time we'll hear something. Once you are a millionaire and see possible money that could be yours leaving your bank account it starts to make you worry, no matter how much you have.



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I asked for a refund for my batch 1 order 14xxx today...No way they will make any money.
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January 23, 2014, 12:18:34 AM
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wow everyone is jumping ship. looks like im gonna jump as well. fuckit. ill just get a bunch of ant miners.
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January 23, 2014, 12:22:44 AM
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"HODLing" does not apply to preorders?
I guess not. I am trying very hard to give them the benefit of the doubt, but judging by the sentiment here someone (cough...Sam...cough) needs to talk to the struggling public soon.
Edit: I don't really care for the meme, but found it relevant here
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