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January 13, 2014, 03:10:14 AM
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I can order for you if you want.

I order a lot Cooler Master V850 before my Jupiters arrived.
Turns out the november Jupiters draw more power.
I am now using 3 to power each pair of Jupiters.

Now I am slowly change them to this one.
http://www.alternate.nl/be_quiet!/Dark_Power_Pro_10_1200W,_1200_Watt_voeding/html/product/1012049/?tk=7&lk=9531
A bit more expensive than the EVGA

Cheers bro. I just needed the one PSU for the trip as opposed to faffing with twice the weight and loss in bag space with 2xv850s.

Check this though;

http://www.lepatek.com/eng/product_content/1/1/20/

I saw that on amazon for £200 from Germany again min 5 day lead time.

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January 13, 2014, 03:11:55 AM
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I can order for you if you want.

I order a lot Cooler Master V850 before my Jupiters arrived.
Turns out the november Jupiters draw more power.
I am now using 3 to power each pair of Jupiters.

Now I am slowly change them to this one.
http://www.alternate.nl/be_quiet!/Dark_Power_Pro_10_1200W,_1200_Watt_voeding/html/product/1012049/?tk=7&lk=9531
A bit more expensive than the EVGA

Cheers bro. I just needed the one PSU for the trip as opposed to faffing with twice the weight and loss in bag space with 2xv850s.

Check this though;

http://www.lepatek.com/eng/product_content/1/1/20/

I saw that on amazon for £200 from Germany again min 5 day lead time.

saw the video man, fwiw i thought you were great and audio was fine, i dont know what people are complaining about...
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January 13, 2014, 03:16:01 AM
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I can order for you if you want.

I order a lot Cooler Master V850 before my Jupiters arrived.
Turns out the november Jupiters draw more power.
I am now using 3 to power each pair of Jupiters.

Now I am slowly change them to this one.
http://www.alternate.nl/be_quiet!/Dark_Power_Pro_10_1200W,_1200_Watt_voeding/html/product/1012049/?tk=7&lk=9531
A bit more expensive than the EVGA

Cheers bro. I just needed the one PSU for the trip as opposed to faffing with twice the weight and loss in bag space with 2xv850s.

Check this though;

http://www.lepatek.com/eng/product_content/1/1/20/

I saw that on amazon for £200 from Germany again min 5 day lead time.

saw the video man, fwiw i thought you were great and audio was fine, i dont know what people are complaining about...

I agree. I liked 'Orama's responses and appreciate how stressful that situation must have been. The only part I would have changed was the $70k for Jupiter owners bit, but he's already addressed that. I really liked the way he described mining as processing, securing, and verifying transactions. I used that same phrasing a few hours after watching the interview when explaining to someone else.

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January 13, 2014, 03:18:15 AM
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@BitcoinOrama:
If KnC does not sell more Jupiters in January, you should sell your rig (presented at Engadget) by auction here  Grin Grin Grin
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We do have rods, and stringent codes....   There's also several "Better" places it could have struck nearby... like the all-steel tall greenhouse just 6 or 7 meters away. Just a freak thing... you can "coax" lightning with good preparation, but there are no guarantees. This is a perfect example. My next major upgrade, after patching or replacing all the damage, is to add a groundrod at the subpanel...they aren't required here, but if I had it, the damage to my appliances might not have been so bad. I hope it's just the PSU on my desktop thats blown, i haven't gotten around to it yet


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January 13, 2014, 03:22:03 AM
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Hm, what's up with the massive jump in diff, is Cointerra and/or Hashfast shipping in large quantity?  Does this qualify for releasing more jupiters/etc?

Might not be a bad idea for the network since the whole GHash.io drama went down
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January 13, 2014, 03:22:22 AM
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on another note...
Good thing no miners here ATM...
My new 200 amp service line took a direct lightning strike last night  Angry
It blew every breaker in the house, both live phases
It exploded a 20 amp power strip, blew my desktop, microwave, and left a
3 inch long exploded hole in the new conduit. It struck on the portion
of the line we had not been able to bury yet. The mains are literally in pieces.
After calling the power company, they come and find that my transformer is also blown.
They patched me into a local transformer down the street a bit, but only one phase
is still working with a huge exposed/blackened hole in the conduit for now until I
can fix this mess. oh boy.  
So far I was able to get a set of dual 100amp switches for the mains and a
microwave oven (Gotta warm that coffee) to get going
Installing all new 2-2-2 in conduit is gonna be fun I have no way of
splicing the hit portion of the service line   do I?

Wow!! Where is your grounding? You should have had a better path to ground of your line, maybe it was too much for the insulation? No you shouldn't patch something that big, the resistance would be too high. (you could, but I doubt it would be to code)
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January 13, 2014, 03:25:07 AM
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I can order for you if you want.

I order a lot Cooler Master V850 before my Jupiters arrived.
Turns out the november Jupiters draw more power.
I am now using 3 to power each pair of Jupiters.

Now I am slowly change them to this one.
http://www.alternate.nl/be_quiet!/Dark_Power_Pro_10_1200W,_1200_Watt_voeding/html/product/1012049/?tk=7&lk=9531
A bit more expensive than the EVGA

Cheers bro. I just needed the one PSU for the trip as opposed to faffing with twice the weight and loss in bag space with 2xv850s.

Check this though;

http://www.lepatek.com/eng/product_content/1/1/20/

I saw that on amazon for £200 from Germany again min 5 day lead time.

I highly recommend the 1600w Lepa

I use one to power each of my 5xGPU scrypt rigs with 4 rigs in total - beats having to run two PSU's per rig

Running perfectly for 6+ months

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January 13, 2014, 03:34:05 AM
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Wow!! Where is your grounding? You should have had a better path to ground of your line, maybe it was too much for the insulation? No you shouldn't patch something that big, the resistance would be too high. (you could, but I doubt it would be to code)

other than ground-rods at each panel, I don't see any other options. It's a 200 foot line...
It was also inside conduit, fully glued & water-tight.
The portion which got hit is of course in the middle, right near my gate, which may have contributed to the strikes choice path...
burying is difficult, we have to jackhammer into blue-rock for the trench, which is why it wasn't completed...I simply can't operate a doggone jackhammer, it would kill me... hehehe


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January 13, 2014, 03:52:02 AM
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Just in case anyone is interested in calculating their actual power consumption, you should know that the amount listed by bertmod or the new 0.99.2 firmware does not include all factors like fans or PSU inefficiencies. As you can see, my Jupiter shows 1140w on the Advanced page, but my kill-a-watt meter shows 1300w at the wall. I would recommend multiplying the amount you see on the Advanced tab or from bertmod by 1.15 for a realistic estimate.

what kind of Jupiter are you running?

my Jupiters are drawing from 570W to 590W at the wall all with 0.95 firmware.
BTW. 240v power supplies V1000 cooler Master gold

Sorry, I forgot to mention I'm running 6 modules overclocked at 1TH/s. I found the same 1.15 power multiplier was necessary when running 4 modules at stock speed though.

I wonder how much recent overclocking, as above has effected the hashrate as well? I mean if enough are savvy enough to push out another 10-15% it has to make some kind of dent...

Absolutely! I've wondered this myself since most of the hashing power out there is KnC hardware.

On another note, it seems like those 2nd gen Avalon clones are sprouting up like wildfire! I've got 13 of 'em arriving sometime between 1/20 and 1/22. I think that KnC's competition doesn't look the way they expected (HashFast & Cointerra), but rather dozens of Chinese 'shops' cranking these things out like mad.

I was going to mention Avalon, a little birdy brought this to my attention to day. They have a load of 200gh/s 55nm hitting the market right now, but that cannot be solely responsible. Also does that mean the hardware is all being pre-mined (again), or delivered?

There are also privately sourced operations hitting the network, too. As bitcoin becomes more popular then you'll see more privately funded mining ops using their own custom made hardware. I wouldn't be surprised if these hardware manufacturers started making their own clones and started mining as well.
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January 13, 2014, 04:10:17 AM
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Just in case anyone is interested in calculating their actual power consumption, you should know that the amount listed by bertmod or the new 0.99.2 firmware does not include all factors like fans or PSU inefficiencies. As you can see, my Jupiter shows 1140w on the Advanced page, but my kill-a-watt meter shows 1300w at the wall. I would recommend multiplying the amount you see on the Advanced tab or from bertmod by 1.15 for a realistic estimate.

what kind of Jupiter are you running?

my Jupiters are drawing from 570W to 590W at the wall all with 0.95 firmware.
BTW. 240v power supplies V1000 cooler Master gold

Sorry, I forgot to mention I'm running 6 modules overclocked at 1TH/s. I found the same 1.15 power multiplier was necessary when running 4 modules at stock speed though.

I wonder how much recent overclocking, as above has effected the hashrate as well? I mean if enough are savvy enough to push out another 10-15% it has to make some kind of dent...

Absolutely! I've wondered this myself since most of the hashing power out there is KnC hardware.

On another note, it seems like those 2nd gen Avalon clones are sprouting up like wildfire! I've got 13 of 'em arriving sometime between 1/20 and 1/22. I think that KnC's competition doesn't look the way they expected (HashFast & Cointerra), but rather dozens of Chinese 'shops' cranking these things out like mad.

I was going to mention Avalon, a little birdy brought this to my attention to day. They have a load of 200gh/s 55nm hitting the market right now, but that cannot be solely responsible. Also does that mean the hardware is all being pre-mined (again), or delivered?

There are also privately sourced operations hitting the network, too. As bitcoin becomes more popular then you'll see more privately funded mining ops using their own custom made hardware. I wouldn't be surprised if these hardware manufacturers started making their own clones and started mining as well.

Evolution is said to be less and less expensive big rigs approaching manufacturing cost.  Still if there's horizontal expansion with manufacturers owners as investors in commercial farms, real cheap miners won't happen.  And if the real deal isn't the miners the business sells but the now developed ASICs sold to be put on another manufacturer's boards and not sold to the public, then the hashrate would rise without visible cause.



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January 13, 2014, 04:24:25 AM
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Just in case anyone is interested in calculating their actual power consumption, you should know that the amount listed by bertmod or the new 0.99.2 firmware does not include all factors like fans or PSU inefficiencies. As you can see, my Jupiter shows 1140w on the Advanced page, but my kill-a-watt meter shows 1300w at the wall. I would recommend multiplying the amount you see on the Advanced tab or from bertmod by 1.15 for a realistic estimate.

what kind of Jupiter are you running?

my Jupiters are drawing from 570W to 590W at the wall all with 0.95 firmware.
BTW. 240v power supplies V1000 cooler Master gold

I just took a 1000w evga (1000 G2) to the CES with me based in Cyper's recommendations for the brand. I couldn't source the 1300W one in time as Cyper has probably bought the entire UK's supply of them before Christmas.

The lads gave me 2xV850s to use, but I got totally fed up with dealing with unpacking 2 power supplies and anything that takes me near the baggage limit. I realise not a concern for you, buuuut each v850 is over a kilo, and the leads aren't light either.

Plus the red EVGA leads which you have 6x 6+2, with 6 separate 8 pin ports on the PSU (4x a single Pcie and I think two were doubles) look neater and sexier than the mess of leads the coolermaster has when on camera. On top of which and this is a biggy, they are longer and better shielded. That said the Molex which is much longer than the coolermaster offering which further bunches up the pcie leads is still shorter than the pcie leads and that is then the determining factor in the distance in separation if the device and the PSU.

In any case they are very reasonably priced 80 plus gold rated and carrying one PSU over two is muuuch more fun. I'm still getting forearms like Popeye lugging Jupiter around, however the final bonus is the set up and clear up time is so much quicker.

Most of the above probably doesn't concern most of you, just thanking Cyper for the recommendation and can confirm I really like the PSU. I can imagine the 1300w would be ideal for any 6 board Nov Jup mods (that are totally unofficial, right? Wink). Really impressed with the EVGA brand for such a compact high rated unit that is pretty much half the price of the next worthwhile offering, and has 6x in dependant pci-es, but it does look like the 1300w version is sold out everywhere for the foreseeable future (in the UK at least). The 1000w one I have was like only £20 less, but I had to order and have delivered quick this side of Christmas.

I did see a 1600w PSU which I believe took 10 PCI-Es and was only £200 somewhere. No idea but prob should look into that as it would be ideal for a GPU farm...

I might have purchased the last 2 from scan.co.uk  Grin
The 1300W is the way to go - it is so much better value for money and the cables are indeed very sexy  Cheesy
According to the tests it can deliver up to 1430W of DC power with a still great 89.64% efficiency, so it is over-designed Wink

Btw check yours if it needs to be RMAd - http://www.evga.com/articles/00803/
They offer advanced RMA (KNC should take note here  Wink ) where you receive a new one and then you ship the faulty one back.
And you get a free EVGA T-Shirt too, so at least KNC took note for this one  Grin

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January 13, 2014, 04:29:48 AM
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Just in case anyone is interested in calculating their actual power consumption, you should know that the amount listed by bertmod or the new 0.99.2 firmware does not include all factors like fans or PSU inefficiencies. As you can see, my Jupiter shows 1140w on the Advanced page, but my kill-a-watt meter shows 1300w at the wall. I would recommend multiplying the amount you see on the Advanced tab or from bertmod by 1.15 for a realistic estimate.

what kind of Jupiter are you running?

my Jupiters are drawing from 570W to 590W at the wall all with 0.95 firmware.
BTW. 240v power supplies V1000 cooler Master gold

Sorry, I forgot to mention I'm running 6 modules overclocked at 1TH/s. I found the same 1.15 power multiplier was necessary when running 4 modules at stock speed though.

I wonder how much recent overclocking, as above has effected the hashrate as well? I mean if enough are savvy enough to push out another 10-15% it has to make some kind of dent...

Absolutely! I've wondered this myself since most of the hashing power out there is KnC hardware.

On another note, it seems like those 2nd gen Avalon clones are sprouting up like wildfire! I've got 13 of 'em arriving sometime between 1/20 and 1/22. I think that KnC's competition doesn't look the way they expected (HashFast & Cointerra), but rather dozens of Chinese 'shops' cranking these things out like mad.

I was going to mention Avalon, a little birdy brought this to my attention to day. They have a load of 200gh/s 55nm hitting the market right now, but that cannot be solely responsible. Also does that mean the hardware is all being pre-mined (again), or delivered?

There are also privately sourced operations hitting the network, too. As bitcoin becomes more popular then you'll see more privately funded mining ops using their own custom made hardware. I wouldn't be surprised if these hardware manufacturers started making their own clones and started mining as well.

Evolution is said to be less and less expensive big rigs approaching manufacturing cost.  Still if there's horizontal expansion with manufacturers owners as investors in commercial farms, real cheap miners won't happen.  And if the real deal isn't the miners the business sells but the now developed ASICs sold to be put on another manufacturer's boards and not sold to the public, then the hashrate would rise without visible cause.

Rubric: The natives are getting restless.

An even sneakier method would be to get preorders to develop the ASIC, get the ICs, announce a pending release of a great many miners, but have a deliberate flaw in the board design so they can't be shipped but meanwhile a great many of the ICs go to a private buyer who puts them on his own designed board not having a deliberate flaw, and gets them up and running mining bitcoins without fanfare.




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January 13, 2014, 04:40:01 AM
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Good job on the interview O'Rama. You did great.
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Good job on the interview O'Rama. You did great.
link?  i missed it somehow


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January 13, 2014, 04:55:24 AM
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Good job on the interview O'Rama. You did great.
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http://www.engadget.com/2014/01/10/KnCMiner-interview/
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January 13, 2014, 05:04:06 AM
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With all of this hash-power coming online -- when are we going to get an update on Neptune?
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Saw that.... I mean the one with Bitcoinorama everyone keeps mentioning...  your'e telling me it's Alex there?
Looks nothing like the pics we saw months ago of him


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January 13, 2014, 05:19:49 AM
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right  Phoenix i have same thought

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January 13, 2014, 05:31:28 AM
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Hm, what's up with the massive jump in diff, is Cointerra and/or Hashfast shipping in large quantity?  Does this qualify for releasing more jupiters/etc?

Might not be a bad idea for the network since the whole GHash.io drama went down

Hashfast shipping in large quantity, hahaha.

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