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January 21, 2014, 11:51:30 PM
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Please knc make some nice stickers for miners
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January 21, 2014, 11:54:44 PM
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Please knc make some nice stickers for miners
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January 21, 2014, 11:56:54 PM
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With respect to the speculation above we sold out of Neptune's last night.

Can you post how many Neptunes are sold in all batches? Just trying to calculate PHs when they eventually come online.

If each batch is 1200 would that be about 1.5 billion difficulty added for all 3 shipped is that right?

Yes, that's about right, (in THs):
https://www.google.rs/search?q=1200+*+3+*+3

10,800 THs = 1,508,742,620 difficulty. That's in case each Neptune is 3 THs, add expected overclocking %.

Edit:
Waiting for Bitcoinorama confirmation there are 3 X 1200 Neptunes sold.
So if they were to ship:

$10k 1200 start of may
$13k 1200 end of may
$10k 1200 batch 2 - june
1200 every month till dec 2014

If they were to ship a batch every month like cointerra plan on doing we would have just the neptunes adding roughly 4.5 billion difficulty by end of 2014. Each batch upping difficulty by 500 million?. wow

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Please note those numbers are extreme speculation don't base any purchases or refunds or any decision on anything I say Cheesy

Does anyone know who it is that added 363TH to Eligius Pool about two weeks ago?
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January 21, 2014, 11:59:48 PM
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Dear knc

The miners in the knc thread have got together to discuss the neptune case design. Here are our requests:

1. Make it ugly
2. Make sure it can heat a swimming pool, (preferably DPoS's pool)
3. Make sure it comes with nice stickers
4. People can have the Model T Neptune in any color – so long as it's black

Thanks
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I've increased the SPI voltage on my miner to 1.95V (default) all the way up to 2.40V and it hasn't changed in anyway. How do you "overclock" these? I want to just add a little more juice and overlock a "small" bit....but there are only a few voltage selections left.


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January 22, 2014, 12:57:46 AM
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I've increased the SPI voltage on my miner to 1.95V (default) all the way up to 2.40V and it hasn't changed in anyway. How do you "overclock" these? I want to just add a little more juice and overlock a "small" bit....but there are only a few voltage selections left.


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January 22, 2014, 01:03:25 AM
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Anyone know how to remotely setup and login to a Jupiter?


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January 22, 2014, 01:13:44 AM
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Also I prefer to have color black  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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January 22, 2014, 02:31:25 AM
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How long would you guys be willing to pay for a 675GH Jupiter @ $2250?  What month would be your cut off point?

That is essentially how much a $10K Neptune breaks down in value @ 3TH.  Man $13K sounds like such a bad deal.  That would be $2925 for a 675GH Jupiter...in Q2?
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January 22, 2014, 02:59:33 AM
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How long would you guys be willing to pay for a 675GH Jupiter @ $2250?  What month would be your cut off point?

That is essentially how much a $10K Neptune breaks down in value @ 3TH.  Man $13K sounds like such a bad deal.  That would be $2925 for a 675GH Jupiter...in Q2?

By the beginning of Q2 $2000 is already too expensive. By late-Q2 it'll be horrible.

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January 22, 2014, 03:43:38 AM
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Dear knc

The miners in the knc thread have got together to discuss the neptune case design. Here are our requests:

1. Make it ugly
2. Make sure it can heat a swimming pool, (preferably DPoS's pool)
3. Make sure it comes with nice stickers
4. People can have the Model T Neptune in any color – so long as it's black

Thanks
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January 22, 2014, 03:47:59 AM
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How long would you guys be willing to pay for a 675GH Jupiter @ $2250?  What month would be your cut off point?

That is essentially how much a $10K Neptune breaks down in value @ 3TH.  Man $13K sounds like such a bad deal.  That would be $2925 for a 675GH Jupiter...in Q2?

By the beginning of Q2 $2000 is already too expensive. By late-Q2 it'll be horrible.

This whole thing seems like a really bad deal IMO.  Next diff change is 0.72 per day for 3TH down from 0.84 currently.  And nobody is getting them for a while.

If the law of supply and demand holds true, then it would make more sense to buy $20K worth of BTC now (what the Neptune pre-orders seem to be going for on eBay) before the difficulty runs away from everyone making BTC that much more scarce.  Then we begin another run to the next paradigm jump in the spot price sometime after mining blows up.

I'd guess that March/April is when people will start to figure out how pointless mining is.
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January 22, 2014, 04:11:08 AM
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If the return on hashrate drops so quickly that Neptunes won't make ROI then it likely would make sense to take possession when it finally does ship and sell it quick.  When they first hit the market as immediately available the auction price will be quite  high.



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January 22, 2014, 04:14:46 AM
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Im hoping that KNC will do a solid and ship with much more than 3TH.
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January 22, 2014, 04:19:12 AM
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Im hoping that KNC will do a solid and ship with much more than 3TH.

They'll likely ship a system which can do double that.

Few consumer folks will be able to power it, however.

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Im hoping that KNC will do a solid and ship with much more than 3TH.

They'll likely ship a system which can do double that.

Few consumer folks will be able to power it, however.
IMHO.... I think they've made it clear that efficiency was primary over gh/s due to power constraints to keep them hashing in an average home.... I wouldn't look for much over 3.2-3.5 based on O'rama's 2200-2400 watt guesstimate. Not only that, It was stated they just re-submitted the base code, so we're certainly well into Q2 for first shipment.


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January 22, 2014, 05:02:17 AM
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How long would you guys be willing to pay for a 675GH Jupiter @ $2250?  What month would be your cut off point?

That is essentially how much a $10K Neptune breaks down in value @ 3TH.  Man $13K sounds like such a bad deal.  That would be $2925 for a 675GH Jupiter...in Q2?

By the beginning of Q2 $2000 is already too expensive. By late-Q2 it'll be horrible.

This whole thing seems like a really bad deal IMO.  Next diff change is 0.72 per day for 3TH down from 0.84 currently.  And nobody is getting them for a while.

If the law of supply and demand holds true, then it would make more sense to buy $20K worth of BTC now (what the Neptune pre-orders seem to be going for on eBay) before the difficulty runs away from everyone making BTC that much more scarce.  Then we begin another run to the next paradigm jump in the spot price sometime after mining blows up.

I'd guess that March/April is when people will start to figure out how pointless mining is.


SHHHHHH!!!

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January 22, 2014, 05:36:52 AM
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If the return on hashrate drops so quickly that Neptunes won't make ROI then it likely would make sense to take possession when it finally does ship and sell it quick.  When they first hit the market as immediately available the auction price will be quite  high.

I posted this then recalled something from this morning and went to edit the post but my cable went down.  Just digital and internet but couldn't fix my comment.  Just now up after almost 1½ hours.

Maybe the auction price on future just arrived Neptunes won't be that great given I saw something about $6/GHs group buy this morning with relatively soon delivery for Avalon2's I think.  That price will drop and by the time the Neptunes ship, the Avalon2's will be cheaper by a good deal maybe.



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January 22, 2014, 06:30:59 AM
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Im hoping that KNC will do a solid and ship with much more than 3TH.

They'll likely ship a system which can do double that.

Few consumer folks will be able to power it, however.
IMHO.... I think they've made it clear that efficiency was primary over gh/s due to power constraints to keep them hashing in an average home.... I wouldn't look for much over 3.2-3.5 based on O'rama's 2200-2400 watt guesstimate. Not only that, It was stated they just re-submitted the base code, so we're certainly well into Q2 for first shipment.


well i'm considering letting my "extremely early" i think i'm in the first 5 or so in 2nd batch (not customer appreciation batch) open to everyone batch Neptunes ..just send that one back and .off to KNC for my $13.2K USD back...ie refund the beast....put my share into BTC direct.

i likely will keep the very early 1st batch unit (1st 10 i think i am) and just take the chance (got to do something) I have a hard time believing that with dificutly going up and such bitcoin price will not follow etc..so even worse case senario and i have to lose a little elec $$$ vat the end of its life cycle that I would not get ROI back on that 1st batch customer appreciation Neptune...main reason for not dumping both is after KNC shoots out neptune..as far as I can tell they will be the last of this crop of miner generation floating out all of us who want to mine....it will be stand around and wait till fall for the other/next generation of miners. at 23K or some such  ..and I could get lucky  in that lull of time between this big dump of equip and mine some more coin in that lull (yeah prob not just saying)...anyway you get my drift (hoping for some flatlining between diff rises eventually don't ya know)


anyway its a hedge.....50/50 dump 2nd neptune for BTC keep 1st order neptune and mine (this is with 3 brothers so even if we get dorked it is only like $3388.66 each for us a gamble kepping the 1st neptune...so what the heck..hopefully it will have nice shiny lights ...and make soothing humming sounds

i'm such a tool

anyway that is looking like the likely senario....$3388.66 gamble on 1st unit and mine take the $4400 each on the 2nd unit refund and buy BTC ASAP

such a fence sitter I am

But with my Jupiter and if I do the above and what i've mined so far..by the time the Neptune arrives I'll be sitting on 50 BTC or so ....and have a shiny Neptune early order batch 1 arrive...ah a boy with his toy all will be well or I will dress it up to look like a tardis with wheels and pull it around on halloween

what the heck I could do worse for a gamble

anyway my likely senario on this "confusting" situation we find ourselves in with bitcoin/miners....ah the DRAMA!

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January 22, 2014, 06:35:49 AM
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anyone ask refund neptune?

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