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January 11, 2014, 12:26:06 PM
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I think KnC will shipped the Neptunes faster than we think.
They always overdelivered.
Haaaaaaaaaa haha. They haven't even taped out, they are still working on neptune chip design. No way you'll see diddly in Q1.

What is the atmosphere like on planet "SelfDelusion", the biggest planet of them all in the knc thread?

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January 11, 2014, 12:46:59 PM
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I think KnC will shipped the Neptunes faster than we think.
They always overdelivered.
Haaaaaaaaaa haha. They haven't even taped out, they are still working on neptune chip design. No way you'll see diddly in Q1.

What is the atmosphere like on planet "SelfDelusion", the biggest planet of them all in the knc thread?

... Didn't it take like 2~ months for them to ship Mecuries, Jupiters, Saturns once they taped out? And that was their first time at it. Why would it be slower now? That would still be in Q1 if it meets.

EDIT: Are Jupiters really going for $15,000 on ebay? What....

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January 11, 2014, 12:50:21 PM
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I think KnC will shipped the Neptunes faster than we think.
They always overdelivered.
Haaaaaaaaaa haha. They haven't even taped out, they are still working on neptune chip design. No way you'll see diddly in Q1.

What is the atmosphere like on planet "SelfDelusion", the biggest planet of them all in the knc thread?

You have no idea if they have or haven't taped out yet. Once you have a working chip at 28nm, switching to 20nm is more of a manufacturing issue, which puts most of the schedule pressure on when TSMC can deliver.
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January 11, 2014, 12:57:44 PM
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January 11, 2014, 12:58:07 PM
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I think KnC will shipped the Neptunes faster than we think.
They always overdelivered.
Haaaaaaaaaa haha. They haven't even taped out, they are still working on neptune chip design. No way you'll see diddly in Q1.

What is the atmosphere like on planet "SelfDelusion", the biggest planet of them all in the knc thread?

... Didn't it take like 2~ months for them to ship Mecuries, Jupiters, Saturns once they taped out? And that was their first time at it. Why would it be slower now? That would still be in Q1 if it meets.

EDIT: Are Jupiters really going for $15,000 on ebay? What....
knc never announced when they taped out in mid 2013, so no one actually knows if it took 2 or 3 months.

Standard is about 64 days. February is 28 days long. China have a 2 week holiday coming up where the country shuts down. Q1 ain't going to happen. But if you can't read the signs, feel free to delude yourself that neptunes will arrive next week for all I care.

You have no idea if they have or haven't taped out yet. Once you have a working chip at 28nm, switching to 20nm is more of a manufacturing issue, which puts most of the schedule pressure on when TSMC can deliver.
Watch the video searing posted, which says they are still working on the neptune chip design.


Also, that video shows I was right about Jupiter production going ahead in January for byteminr.

In the last minute of that video, you'll see obama say they are selling more Jupiters later this month.

Like I said, they need you sucka's to pay the full marked-up Jupiter price to cover production costs for the "at cost or less" units for byteminr. Believe me, byteminr are going in big and these new jups ain't going to be worth anything in one difficulty change after shipping finishes  Grin

P.S. And the remark it'll be "first come first served" also bares out my guesstimate from a while back that they will only sell a limited number of units. Which surely indicates the Jupiter price will be going up, rather than down, as lots of people here seem to think...

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January 11, 2014, 01:13:31 PM
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Here is a new video where the guys guess is Jupiters MAY he seem hesitant that Jupiters may be released at the end of the month

was Friday (yesterday) at CES with KNC runs like 20min or some such

http://www.engadget.com/2014/01/10/KnCMiner-interview/

really good interview basically says what most of us guessed

lmao when he says on there certain companies did not follow thru on delivery and they we're frustrated like others and approached the chip mnfg for making KNC

heh LMAO they have to be talking about BFL what a hoot ......

anyway enjoy but now if his hesitant answer is correct ...price my man price...if we get them in say middle of Feb they will have to be dirt cheap imho

interesting times indeed..but really good interview

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Thanks mate that's just what I needed some confirmation
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January 11, 2014, 01:16:33 PM
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Here is a new video where the guys guess is Jupiters MAY he seem hesitant that Jupiters may be released at the end of the month



One of them is 'Orama, isn't he?

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January 11, 2014, 01:33:28 PM
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I think KnC will shipped the Neptunes faster than we think.
They always overdelivered.
Haaaaaaaaaa haha. They haven't even taped out, they are still working on neptune chip design. No way you'll see diddly in Q1.

What is the atmosphere like on planet "SelfDelusion", the biggest planet of them all in the knc thread?

The whole game about BTC is mine more than you invested in it.
KnC is the only Asic company that has delivered gear to me that is able to mine more than it cost.
All my Jupiters are now mining back the lost of BTC in 1 Fucking Porn Jet from Hashlast.
This will be done within 2 weeks from now.
After that it is pure profit.

If you can read and understand what KnC has announced, you will make the conclusion that they will ship sooner than you think.
They will go for a die shrink, but they reserved the rights to make improvements.

I don't understand you, no one is so stupid to leave money behind.
We are all in the game to earn more, but not you and I can't understand that.


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January 11, 2014, 01:33:49 PM
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with all the 2c worth of posts, you couldve bought 3 more neptunes

LOL! Grin

too true too true

just want to warn people I really don't know what I"m talking about...but I'm so far out in the sticks of "what kinda bitcoin cult are you trying to get me into" when I mention the topic..it is mumble musings on here or talk to myself

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January 11, 2014, 01:34:18 PM
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Awesome, thanks for sharing that! That's our very own 'Orama getting interviewed for those of you new to the scene. Skip to ~8:30 for the relevant part:

"We're still waiting for competition..." -in regards to shipping more Jupiters.

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What happen here


Why so much increase at diff??.?

Next difficulty retarget occurs at block 280223.0 (eta 1.6 days): 1999664744.71 / +41.0% [est.]



again just me but heck they got to be doing something in china with all them avalon chips about..also lots of big private money making their own farms under the radar i'd imagine

anyone else chime in ....I really don't have any real idea either on why it is going up so fast....

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January 11, 2014, 01:39:01 PM
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If you can read and understand what KnC has announced, you will make the conclusion that they will ship sooner than you think.
knc have announced nothing other than Q1/Q2 delivery for neptune.

When you say you expect them to deliver sooner, I assume you mean Q1?

I'm just pointing out they are still working on the neptune chip design - their director of miscommuniucations states that.

So it won't be sooner than "expected", i.e. Q1.

If it's Q2, that is what is expected.

You are misdirecting people, leading them to believe knc will deliver in Q1.

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What happen here


Why so much increase at diff??.?

Next difficulty retarget occurs at block 280223.0 (eta 1.6 days): 1999664744.71 / +41.0% [est.]



again just me but heck they got to be doing something in china with all them avalon chips about..also lots of big private money making their own farms under the radar i'd imagine

anyone else chime in ....I really don't have any real idea either on why it is going up so fast....

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i was expecting that rise more or less. BUT i was also expecting cointerra, bitmine and hashfast to have delivered at this moment............
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Awesome, thanks for sharing that! That's our very own 'Orama getting interviewed for those of you new to the scene. Skip to ~8:30 for the relevant part:

"We're still waiting for competition..." -in regards to shipping more Jupiters.

Or skip to 18:30 for "we will be selling them if not february later this month"

Yay Grin Grin
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January 11, 2014, 01:46:15 PM
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What happen here


Why so much increase at diff??.?

Next difficulty retarget occurs at block 280223.0 (eta 1.6 days): 1999664744.71 / +41.0% [est.]



again just me but heck they got to be doing something in china with all them avalon chips about..also lots of big private money making their own farms under the radar i'd imagine

anyone else chime in ....I really don't have any real idea either on why it is going up so fast....

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i was expecting that rise more or less. BUT i was also expecting cointerra, bitmine and hashfast to have delivered at this moment............

sorry guys but I can't find anywhere such a bold estimate for the next jump, every place I look I found something between 1.7 and 1.8 bln (~ 24%), where did you find 40% prediction for the next adjustment? (of course also 24% is a hell of a lot but better than 40)


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January 11, 2014, 01:58:37 PM
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What happen here


Why so much increase at diff??.?

Next difficulty retarget occurs at block 280223.0 (eta 1.6 days): 1999664744.71 / +41.0% [est.]



again just me but heck they got to be doing something in china with all them avalon chips about..also lots of big private money making their own farms under the radar i'd imagine

anyone else chime in ....I really don't have any real idea either on why it is going up so fast....

Searing


i was expecting that rise more or less. BUT i was also expecting cointerra, bitmine and hashfast to have delivered at this moment............

sorry guys but I can't find anywhere such a bold estimate for the next jump, every place I look I found something between 1.7 and 1.8 bln (~ 24%), where did you find 40% prediction for the next adjustment? (of course also 24% is a hell of a lot but better than 40)



i dont expect 40%, i expect 28%

nevertheless, where would the actual diff be with bitmine, cointerra and hashfast on track? something like +75%?
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sorry guys but I can't find anywhere such a bold estimate for the next jump, every place I look I found something between 1.7 and 1.8 bln (~ 24%), where did you find 40% prediction for the next adjustment? (of course also 24% is a hell of a lot but better than 40)



i dont expect 40%, i expect 28%

nevertheless, where would the actual diff be with bitmine, cointerra and hashfast on track? something like +75%?

Yeah 28 is more likely.

Anyway I'm not good at make diff predictions. When I was deciding if buying or not from KNC I've estimated a diff of 55 mil by mid September, what I naive I was. Luckily enough my btc value estimate was wrong either, by a ten fold, but in the right direction Tongue and of course KnC hashrate over-delivering come handy

Speaking of hypoetical hashrate if CT/HF/Bitmine had released on time... dunno, mind blowing for sure.  

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The part that bugs me is that no one is discussing '21e6' around here at all.  The first I heard of it was on Bloomberg news!? That is just strange.  They have massive capital backers.  KNC does have competition I think but it just might not be in their faces.

Makes me wonder about my Neptune's profitability come April.  My rule of 2 is looking bleak.

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January 11, 2014, 03:04:16 PM
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knc never announced when they taped out in mid 2013, so no one actually knows if it took 2 or 3 months.


You're correct they never specifically said when they taped out, but they certainly taped out in June/July. They couldn't have possible taped out earlier unless they started selling units after tape-out which Im not sure I can believe.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=170332.msg2832504#msg2832504

You seem a bit bitter using terms like "delusion". Did KNC do something to you exactly? I'm pissed myself how they really didn't honor pre-existing customers with the whole Neptune preorder thing, but KNC has delivered before so I'm not sure why you don't think they won't deliver again just because they won't announce these things. They completely over-delivered with the first line of products. So even if they are late, I'd expect bonuses.

I'm not one for donations but if you must go ahead and I will keep you in mind. =)
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January 11, 2014, 03:05:03 PM
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The part that bugs me is that no one is discussing '21e6' around here at all.  The first I heard of it was on Bloomberg news!? That is just strange.  They have massive capital backers.  KNC does have competition I think but it just might not be in their faces.

Makes me wonder about my Neptune's profitability come April.  My rule of 2 is looking bleak.

IF those neptunes are delivered in april. ASIC history shows that May/June may be more likely imo.
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