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Let's put it this way... There are no other asic designers with the experience KNC has. Nobody comes close. Several completed asic projects.
KNC is a new company and apart from the current project, they have no direct experience in ASIC design, ORSOC on the other hand has some limited experience. Several projects completed? KNC has ZERO completed ASIC projects. All I see on ORSOC website under ASIC related "projects" is this: Pre-study and architectural design for ASIC projectORSoC supports a customer with expertise in “pre-study” work for a big ASIC project. The work will result in decision of how to design the product to achieve best possible performance and in the same time assure future proof design that can handle different standards. ORSoC is also involved in work of setting up the design environment including verification strategies.
ASIC design in large ASIC development projectORSoC is assigned to participate in large ASIC development project. The project includes design and verification of one of the bigger cores in the ASIC. This project require expert skills within VHDL design and verification as well as good knowledge of the standards used in the mobile telecom industry. The projects involves many people which makes it important to work in a structured way in a project team and follow the development models sued by the customer.ASIC timing error verificationORSoC helped this customer too investigate why their ASIC was malfunctioning sporadically. This error occurred after they transferred the ASIC to another ASIC process.If you have some "details" with actual links of their previous ASIC projects viz a viz Clients, Project Value ($), production volumes,completion dates etc, I would love to have a read through them, Whilst I agree that they may appear to be better organized and initially positioned than BFL and AVALON, they still have to deliver a product. cheers, kev When I read the ORSoC credentials, I too could not find any reference to any projects that seems relevant to the design and production of volume ASIC like KNCminer require. But I am happy to give them the benefit of the doubt, as all engineers have to start somewhere. |
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July 07, 2013, 07:55:09 AM |
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Let's put it this way... There are no other asic designers with the experience KNC has. Nobody comes close. Several completed asic projects.
KNC is a new company and apart from the current project, they have no direct experience in ASIC design, ORSOC on the other hand has some limited experience. Several projects completed? KNC has ZERO completed ASIC projects. All I see on ORSOC website under ASIC related "projects" is this: Pre-study and architectural design for ASIC projectORSoC supports a customer with expertise in “pre-study” work for a big ASIC project. The work will result in decision of how to design the product to achieve best possible performance and in the same time assure future proof design that can handle different standards. ORSoC is also involved in work of setting up the design environment including verification strategies.
ASIC design in large ASIC development projectORSoC is assigned to participate in large ASIC development project. The project includes design and verification of one of the bigger cores in the ASIC. This project require expert skills within VHDL design and verification as well as good knowledge of the standards used in the mobile telecom industry. The projects involves many people which makes it important to work in a structured way in a project team and follow the development models sued by the customer.ASIC timing error verificationORSoC helped this customer too investigate why their ASIC was malfunctioning sporadically. This error occurred after they transferred the ASIC to another ASIC process.If you have some "details" with actual links of their previous ASIC projects viz a viz Clients, Project Value ($), production volumes,completion dates etc, I would love to have a read through them, Whilst I agree that they may appear to be better organized and initially positioned than BFL and AVALON, they still have to deliver a product. cheers, kev What is on the sixth picture of this post? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=214285.msg2410076#msg2410076 |
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July 07, 2013, 08:37:53 AM |
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A Mars FPGA miner nothing to do with ASIC. |
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July 07, 2013, 09:00:10 AM |
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any expected ship date from kncminer? interested in getting the saturn or jupiter system.
asicrigs.com claims to be 1st week of august.
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July 07, 2013, 11:59:25 AM |
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any expected ship date from kncminer? interested in getting the saturn or jupiter system.
asicrigs.com claims to be 1st week of august.
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July 07, 2013, 12:16:00 PM |
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A Mars FPGA miner nothing to do with ASIC. I tell u to see exact sixth picture over there and what's this looks like? It's hand made or something?
When I read the ORSoC credentials, I too could not find any reference to any projects that seems relevant to the design and production of volume ASIC like KNCminer require. But I am happy to give them the benefit of the doubt, as all engineers have to start somewhere. |
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July 07, 2013, 12:19:02 PM |
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any expected ship date from kncminer? interested in getting the saturn or jupiter system.
asicrigs.com claims to be 1st week of august.
Please tell me you're kidding. Asicrigs.com is a known scam that photoshopped BFL miners. |
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July 07, 2013, 12:44:35 PM
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The 6th image is an eASIC board perhaps you need to look it up on Google, it's not an ASIC designed from the ground up, but a programmable prototype that gets converted to an easicopy production ASIC. Most of the FPGA vendors have this kind of service to some extent. The type of thing we are talking about for KNCminer is a totally different beast, though I would imagine an eASIC prototype would be a viable test of the logic.
ORSorc are a channel partner for eASIC.
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July 07, 2013, 12:45:18 PM |
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A Mars FPGA miner nothing to do with ASIC. I tell u to see exact sixth picture over there and what's this looks like? It's hand made or something?
When I read the ORSoC credentials, I too could not find any reference to any projects that seems relevant to the design and production of volume ASIC like KNCminer require. But I am happy to give them the benefit of the doubt, as all engineers have to start somewhere. You are a bunch of flippin' slow learners. First off, "Kevinm", for acting like you know something, not reading the open-day report, and talking like he knows all... They DO have SEVERAL ASIC projects completed. If you bothered reading this thread, you also skimmed over the link at least twice, now read & learn. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=232852.0Erk & Whisper... That is not fpga(img6): If you even bothered reading the picture LABEL.. you would see that it's a structured ASIC, made by ORSOC, in a previous endeavor with eASIC, yet another previous ASIC project. KNC even created their own embedded Linux Device to run the miners... not a rasberry, or nexus. And... they're credentials ARE posted, you just looked in the wrong places, which evidently did not include Linkdin. If you don't have a clue, stop spreading false information. It spreads like sickness: all because one idiot states outrageous, false claims like he knows... When he does not. Get with the program, READ |
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July 07, 2013, 01:55:08 PM |
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Just a little bit of info regarding KnC They contact ckolivas and myself at the end of May regarding cgminer and related information. They then stated they'd be sending (in July) mock up devices (with an internal RPi) for us to work with on cgminer, then in September the real (faster) devices to tune cgminer to. I have, however, heard nothing since, but no doubt expect to hear something soon. I'll keep everyone posted if anything happens |
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July 07, 2013, 02:03:59 PM |
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Just a little bit of info regarding KnC They contact ckolivas and myself at the end of May regarding cgminer and related information. They then stated they'd be sending (in July) mock up devices (with an internal RPi) for us to work with on cgminer, then in September the real (faster) devices to tune cgminer to. I have, however, heard nothing since, but no doubt expect to hear something soon. I'll keep everyone posted if anything happens Now that's a nice post from you! Thank you. |
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July 07, 2013, 02:06:21 PM |
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has the mercury device been shipped?
the website seems to suggest so, since the other products mentioned about shipping in sept except mercury
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July 07, 2013, 02:09:22 PM |
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has the mercury device been shipped? No, it will be in October. |
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July 07, 2013, 02:09:43 PM |
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Just a little bit of info regarding KnC They contact ckolivas and myself at the end of May regarding cgminer and related information. They then stated they'd be sending (in July) mock up devices (with an internal RPi) for us to work with on cgminer, then in September the real (faster) devices to tune cgminer to. I have, however, heard nothing since, but no doubt expect to hear something soon. I'll keep everyone posted if anything happens KANO Sweeeeeeeet, TY |
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July 07, 2013, 02:10:50 PM |
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has the mercury device been shipped?
the website seems to suggest so, since the other products mentioned about shipping in sept except mercury
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July 07, 2013, 02:22:46 PM |
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has the mercury device been shipped? No, it will be in October. thanks didn't see the ship by date and thought it was already out. |
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July 07, 2013, 03:00:38 PM |
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Just a little bit of info regarding KnC They contact ckolivas and myself at the end of May regarding cgminer and related information. They then stated they'd be sending (in July) mock up devices (with an internal RPi) for us to work with on cgminer, then in September the real (faster) devices to tune cgminer to. I have, however, heard nothing since, but no doubt expect to hear something soon. I'll keep everyone posted if anything happens +1 |
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July 07, 2013, 03:03:54 PM |
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i asked if any new updates were coming to the website news section, emilia says they will be posting more technical info about the devices "shortly". heres hoping! i check the damn site every hour. lol
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July 07, 2013, 03:09:21 PM |
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i asked if any new updates were coming to the website news section, emilia says they will be posting more technical info about the devices "shortly". heres hoping! i check the damn site every hour. lol
IT IS SUNDAY!! They dont work at sunday^^ (European Time) |
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July 07, 2013, 03:11:44 PM |
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i asked if any new updates were coming to the website news section, emilia says they will be posting more technical info about the devices "shortly". heres hoping! i check the damn site every hour. lol
IT IS SUNDAY!! They dont work at sunday^^ (European Time) lol. i meant two days ago. i dont expect updates on weekends. |
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