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September 17, 2013, 07:17:12 AM |
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Given the enormous time to market pressure I cant blame these guys for hoping for the best, but there is no other industry in the world where they expect to ship to consumers less than 2 weeks after receiving their first processed wafers. For the record, it took BFL like 6 months or so?
Wafers have to be cut in parts, tested and packaged (5 days or more). They have to customs/fly to sweden (3 days or more, if knc will not rent a charter plane). Then testing boards/software/production line update/packaging (5 days or more). Then shipping abroad (3 days or more). They have 16 days in best scenario (if there will be 0 error/perfect work but in IT it is not possible). That gives 1 october first delivery. It is very unlikely.
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September 17, 2013, 07:19:30 AM |
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... So either its that, and you get screwed by difficulty, or you believe most or all of them are exaggerating/lying, in which case, chances are your rig wont arrive in time either. You are screwed either way, unless you get lucky enough that your miner does ship roughly on time, and almost none of the others. Good luck with that.
Two other ways to do OK: Be on the hardware development team or Be a well known miner dev Then you usually end up waiting less than most people so you can get things working for when people get the hardware. We don't get too many "Thanks for writing cgminer - fuck you - ha ha" like KnC have done ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) The last time that happened was ... ages ago ... Enterpoint. Edit: oh funny I forgot - the last time was actually Avalon ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) So twice ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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September 17, 2013, 07:47:25 AM |
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Check knc site News page Have news about the chips
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September 17, 2013, 07:50:18 AM |
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Check knc site News page Have news about the chips
really ? </sarcasm>
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September 17, 2013, 07:51:10 AM |
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Chip News - Yes again post - Just to cope with all the where is the chip news posts. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Today, 08:45 AM All, You have all been waiting for an update on our chips and we can today announce that the Fabrication process has finished and the wafers are on their way to the packing assembly house right now. They will be in the assembly house for a few days before they make their way to us in Sweden and of course via the fastest method possible. While it’s going to be a tight and we always knew it was. Time to market is everything in this business after all. We have also broken a few speed records in this business to bring a design to market in the fastest time possible. But we are still on track to have Jupiter/Saturn shipping this month. We will update this news site as often as we can with news. We will even have some videos this week from our Swedish assembly factory as some of our smaller parts begin to be assembled ready for full production the minute the chips arrive. We would also like to take this opportunity to say that while we have remained as silent as possible on our simulations and only promised figures that we know we can meet. we will not down clock our chips to 400 we will release all our machines with the greatest hashing power we can. So yes the rumors are true Jupiter will be greater than 400 by a significant margin as a free gift from us to all our loyal customers. The first chips off of the production line we will run at full speed in our launch video so you can all see exactly how fast we can make Jupiter run. Thanks Sam
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September 17, 2013, 07:54:48 AM |
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Chip News
Today, 08:45 AM
All,
You have all been waiting for an update on our chips and we can today announce that the Fabrication process has finished and the wafers are on their way to the packing assembly house right now. They will be in the assembly house for a few days before they make their way to us in Sweden and of course via the fastest method possible. While it’s going to be a tight and we always knew it was. Time to market is everything in this business after all. We have also broken a few speed records in this business to bring a design to market in the fastest time possible. But we are still on track to have Jupiter/Saturn shipping this month. We will update this news site as often as we can with news. We will even have some videos this week from our Swedish assembly factory as some of our smaller parts begin to be assembled ready for full production the minute the chips arrive. We would also like to take this opportunity to say that while we have remained as silent as possible on our simulations and only promised figures that we know we can meet. we will not down clock our chips to 400 we will release all our machines with the greatest hashing power we can. So yes the rumors are true Jupiter will be greater than 400 by a significant margin as a free gift from us to all our loyal customers. The first chips off of the production line we will run at full speed in our launch video so you can all see exactly how fast we can make Jupiter run.
Thanks Sam
again ? guys please before posting just skim through the last few pages, usually someone else already posted the same a few mins before you, especially when we're talking about kncminer.com/news. you know that there are some crazy geeks that had made a script to check knc sites for changes every few secs, don't you?
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September 17, 2013, 07:58:34 AM |
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I'd paid with bank transfer, can I ask refund?
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September 17, 2013, 07:58:51 AM |
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Jupiter 840gh/S OHHHHYEAHHH ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I hope.
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September 17, 2013, 07:59:19 AM |
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The filthy casuals may be circumspect tonight... ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FSVFyXFX.jpg&t=665&c=zcia5cDMQxoj_w)
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September 17, 2013, 08:06:53 AM |
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Jupiter 840gh/S OHHHHYEAHHH ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I hope. what are you smoking, plasma ? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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September 17, 2013, 08:20:55 AM |
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If it hashes 500gh/s+, I will be smoking EVERYTHING ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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September 17, 2013, 08:25:34 AM |
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Xialla has a point.
Normally, when you are buying such a time-sensitive, professional device, as a customer you are updated about every step of the process, as you need as much info as possible to decide wether to go ahead or cancel. You should get to know when they are receiving the critical parts (chips), what's the schedule from now on (exactly: with days), and in which precise day your devices will be shipped.
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September 17, 2013, 08:27:35 AM |
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Um ... this is the world of BTC ... I'm not sure which planet you were on before you came here but ... not gonna happen ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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September 17, 2013, 08:30:04 AM |
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Wafers have to be cut in parts, tested and packaged (5 days or more). They have to customs/fly to sweden (3 days or more, if knc will not rent a charter plane). Then testing boards/software/production line update/packaging (5 days or more). Then shipping abroad (3 days or more).
That gives 1 october first delivery. It is very unlikely.
So, what will they be doing those 5 days between receiving the chips and shipping the first devices? drooling? What's holding them back from shipping the first devices they day they receive the chips? If they have a nice enough secretary they might even hand over the first devices to the guy that delivered the chips ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Unless you mean 5 days to produce all the devices, in which case I would be very happy to receive my 61xx order that soon. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) And I'm not sure how you get 3 days shipping, but even the least expensive option is 2 days shipping for me.
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September 17, 2013, 08:33:55 AM |
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i paid and got the overnight shipping...
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September 17, 2013, 08:37:24 AM |
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So, what will they be doing those 5 days between receiving the chips and shipping the first devices? drooling? Oh they could send you a chip right away, no doubt about that. But if you want a fully functional assembled miner, you are skipping almost all the steps involved. What do you think BFL did for 6 months after they received their first wafers. Drool? BTW, getting these chips from Taiwan or wherever they are being cut and packaged to Sweden in under a week is also anything but a given. Granted, I have no experience with Swedish customs, but in most countries that can take several weeks. Unless as someone suggested, you rent a plane or go pick up those chips in person.
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September 17, 2013, 08:37:47 AM |
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Well...I've got a boner.
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September 17, 2013, 08:39:22 AM |
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Well...I've got a boner.
Think you can keep it long enough till you get your miner? I think not. ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif)
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September 17, 2013, 08:40:35 AM |
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Well...I've got a boner.
Think you can keep it long enough till you get your miner? I think not. ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) How much was overnight shipping? I wonder if I can upgrade.
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