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September 11, 2013, 01:39:36 PM


My theory is this: They won't announce anything. They'll simply start providing tracking numbers to customers. Let the customers spread the word like fire to a pinetree farm. That'll be the best announcement which could ever be made.

Paul Revere's ride would hold nothing compared to KNC customers screaming they have tracking numbers.

You had me at hello....this would be an awesome way to let the news drop.


We'll actually see our units hashing on our pool accounts before they send them.

I don't think so.

Remember they stated that they ship on the day of production.
Put in a tracking-number for a day1 order, then you'll see  'Shipping on day 1 of production'
for ex. http://i43.tinypic.com/29e6p8p.jpg (found via google)
 
They will tell us some days before they start shipping, to ensure everyone can take a day off in order to be at home when the postman rings the bell.

I think it's likely they'll at least make sure the boxes connect to the pools and hash for a minute or 2 without HW errors. They're programming the mining info into the boxes prior to shipment, so I'd imagine it wouldn't take much more effort to test. Unless they're using SD cards or similar storage to hold the mining stuff, and someone will simply be doing that ala text file

They will test the boxes according to their statements.
I've never expected or mentioned anything else.

Just pointed out that you will get informed about the shipping date before you will see any activity in your pool account you provided to knc.
At least when they stick to their claim 'shipping on day of production'.


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Paypal just sent me an email about their policy update. https://cms.paypal.com/uk/cgi-bin/?&cmd=_render-content&content_ID=ua/upcoming_policies_full

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Paypal just sent me an email about their policy update. https://cms.paypal.com/uk/cgi-bin/?&cmd=_render-content&content_ID=ua/upcoming_policies_full

Interesting stuff about payment protection changes in there.

Yeah, they've negotiated a bespoke agreement between Paypal though. They had to since the BFL debacle. This is why i've been saying it requires a lot of verification prior to accepting Paypal as a processor for ASIC manufacturers, and why the shady ones can't/won't attempt appeasing Paypal. It's the same with direct card payments. Someone here stated it was easy to set up a merchant account. Sure if you have products in stock, but not otherwise. It's taken KnC this long to flesh out an agreement with SEB. Presumably they now have they liquidity to do so. Again it's no mystery why other ASIC manufacturers won't, and it's presumably a huge part of KnC's underpromising, accountability relates to what you claim; so throwing simulated best cases scenarios and lying about delivery dates, then not delivering on them would get you in hot water.

As such, the general rules above don't apply, Paypal are fully aware of their pre-order business model, it's also why KnC will not uphold any reselling of pre-orders after the initial week, as Paypal don't want pre-order reselling om eBay. So whatever is mentioned on their site has been vetted and agreed to by Paypal. I imagine Paypal hold a large retainer of funds in case as well as SEB. The fact both parties are happy to deal with them, and no other manufacturer is taking these steps speaks volumes. These are heavyweight brands.

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They will test the boxes according to their statements.
I've never expected or mentioned anything else.

Just pointed out that you will get informed about the shipping date before you will see any activity in your pool account you provided to knc.
At least when they stick to their claim 'shipping on day of production'.



why do you keep stating this like you know a damn about what they will do?

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They will test the boxes according to their statements.
I've never expected or mentioned anything else.

Just pointed out that you will get informed about the shipping date before you will see any activity in your pool account you provided to knc.
At least when they stick to their claim 'shipping on day of production'.



why do you keep stating this like you know a damn about what they will do?

Stating what ?
That your speculation and assumption based on no facts/indications I can see is pointless ?

Maybe it's because I'm digging for the dots and try to connect them?
Maybe it's because I'm making some use of the rational part of my brain ?

So I'm asking you:
Why do you have any doubt regarding my statement that you will get an info (newsletter or email) of shipping date before you will see activity in your pool-account for testing ?
What are your indications/facts pointing out another possible scenario ??

Honestly I like to know them IF they are based on facts/indications or at least follow a structured thought....otherwise.. *think your part*


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September 11, 2013, 02:28:43 PM

[12:06 AM]   Searing : although kncminer and others offerting regular credit card stuff etc plus paypal etc may have to be addressed by bfl someday ....people are (less monarch upgrades who are stuck ) are gonna be cautions on pre-orders from now on and use cc imhjo
[12:06 AM]   BFL_Josh : We'll see if they are still in business in 6 months.

I'm sure BFL will still be in the business of scamming n00bs in six months, which is sad.

It's kind of amazing he doesn't even believe it's possible for a company to just say what it's going to do, when it's going to do it, and then actually deliver.

I question if BFL will be open in a year's time to even be taking orders, though I'm sure they'll do their best to continue taking preorders from court even while sitting at their hearing. Enough complaints are piling up that it's reaching the right legal ears. More folks need to file official complaints to break the dam. Their entire production line has all but come to a halt over the past 13 days (minus a rig or two), and it's gotten even some stalwart BFL supporters worried.

Maybe I missed it, but there shouldn't be a bitbet on KNC delivering, it should be on how long until the folks at BFL are hauled off to court, and their location shut down.

As they say on TV detective shows:  Something hinkey there.



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September 11, 2013, 02:37:19 PM

They will test the boxes according to their statements.
I've never expected or mentioned anything else.

Just pointed out that you will get informed about the shipping date before you will see any activity in your pool account you provided to knc.
At least when they stick to their claim 'shipping on day of production'.



why do you keep stating this like you know a damn about what they will do?

Stating what ?
That your speculation and assumption based on no facts/indications I can see is pointless ?

Maybe it's because I'm digging for the dots and try to connect them?
Maybe it's because I'm making some use of the rational part of my brain ?

So I'm asking you:
Why do you have any doubt regarding my statement that you will get an info (newsletter or email) of shipping date before you will see activity in your pool-account for testing ?
What are your indications/facts pointing out another possible scenario ??

Honestly I like to know them IF they are based on facts/indications or at least follow a structured thought....otherwise.. *think your part*



You are pointing out your own behavior, not anyone else's

you got cabin fever it seems, get some air

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September 11, 2013, 02:41:30 PM

 Cheesy

your behavior proofs that you do not have any facts, indications or even a structured thought leading you to your (irrational) assumption.
I assume you live a pink pony world full of rainbows.

Anyways you're on ignore, since you are not able to discuss stuff seriously.

*edit:
-I'm sorry DPoS for the imputation regarding pony world. It was not appropriate, just offensive and insulting. Sorry again for this, but you got me in the wrong moment. Nevertheless my ignore will be kept in place.
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Nice to see them using the BeagleBone Smiley
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September 11, 2013, 04:15:02 PM

Cheesy

your behavior proofs that you do not have any facts, indications or even a structured thought leading you to your irrational assumption.
I assume you live a pink pony world full of rainbows.

Anyways you're on ignore, since you are not able to discuss stuff seriously.
You are acting very childish, Slapping ignore on people for questioning why you post statements of questionable validity?
Just to "josh" you, "Proof(s)" Is spelt Prooves.

Oh wait, something about Pink Ponies and Rainbows?


Assuming makes an ass out of you and me, All he was doing was asking questions and you Slap ignore on him?
Stop friggin arguing and stay ontopic of KNCminer

Edit, btc_uzr was/is apologetic about his behaviour, he says that he was caught at a bad moment.
Soo.. Confetti?

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September 11, 2013, 04:21:53 PM

On a serious note, STOP WITH THE PONIES!!!

Either I am too old and I don't get this trend/humor/meme or the forum got infested by pedophiles or 9 year old girls.

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On a serious note, STOP WITH THE PONIES!!!

Either I am too old and I don't get this trend/humor/meme or the forum got infested by pedophiles or 9 year old girls.
Hey man, He said it first  Grin Roll Eyes

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September 11, 2013, 04:32:36 PM

Cheesy

your behavior proofs that you do not have any facts, indications or even a structured thought leading you to your irrational assumption.
I assume you live a pink pony world full of rainbows.

Anyways you're on ignore, since you are not able to discuss stuff seriously.
You are acting very childish, Slapping ignore on people for questioning why you post statements of questionable validity?
Just to "josh" you, "Proof(s)" Is spelt Prooves.

Oh wait, something about Pink Ponies and Rainbows?
[here was a picture]

Assuming makes an ass out of you and me, All he was doing was asking questions and you Slap ignore on him?
Stop friggin arguing and stay ontopic of KNCminer

Edit, btc_uzr was/is apologetic about his behaviour, he says that he was caught at a bad moment.
Soo.. Confetti?

 Huh
prooves => http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/prooves
                    http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/proove#English
proof => http://www.thefreedictionary.com/proof

In case I picked the wrong word, sorry, english is not my native language, but it looks like you got the idea I wanted to express - so I'm ok.

I was asking for facts, indications or structed thought  - since I got more and more trolling, but not a serious conversation I put him on ignore.
For sure I did not put him on ignore because he was asking questions...read through again plz.

back to topic, now ?

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prooves => http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/prooves
                    http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/proove#English
proof => http://www.thefreedictionary.com/proof

In case I picked the wrong word, sorry, english is not my native language,

back to topic, now ?
Back to topic now!
Also, Thankyou for the link to the Wikitionary, I learned something new, Thanks!
It would appear that I may have chosen the wrong word (prooves) but at the same time you May have used incorrect grammar on "Proofs"
Good work on your english! (sincerely)

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You know I really hate you now.  Angry Now I am hungry for something sweet!  Grin

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yeah. hopefully we get 100% of what our contracts are worth soon.

emmanuel, any updates on your 110TH machines?  we would love to hear about it.

thanks.

Hi,

The plan is to keep adding servers over the next few weeks. The 110 Terahash mine is on schedule for deployment between the 26th to 30th this month. We are well on schedule.

Worst case, July contract owners will be at 100 % capacity once the 110 Terahash mine comes online. As far as cloud hashing service companies go, we are the only ones paying out.

Will keep you posted.

Thanks

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I read that as cloudhashing is getting 110TH/s from knc equipment. What you guys think?
110TH from KnC = 275 Jupiters = $2 million dollars before VAT
From the bflscamfraud site I believe cloudhashing are based in USA so will not need to pay VAT, but will need to await shipping
(I'll leave it up to you whether you believe one might buy a bfl minirig out the back door for $100,000)
I trust KnC to be honest and fair, and that they will not allow queue jumpers.
I doubt cloudhashing have prepaid $2million dollars, I expect they placed their order well after the first 500 units, and that KnC will deliver to them when their turn comes up.
Also, I wonder who placed the order for 200 babyjets ? https://hashfast.com/order-chain/

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=173316.msg2919858#msg2919858

If this is true, then cloudhashing have their 275 Jupiters coming day1 on the 19, 20, 26, 30th of September

Sam if you are reading this - please tell me they didn't get to jump the queue a la http://bflfraud.com/
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