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September 17, 2013, 03:08:09 PM
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http://www.coindesk.com/kncminer-offers-free-speed-increase-first-bitcoin-miner-shipments/

Sam Cole, co-founder of KnCMiner, said the fabrication process of the chips has been completed and they are now on their way to an assembly house in Asia, before being shipped to KnCMiner’s offices in Sweden in around six days’ time

The more important bit of info from this is that, as believed by some of us here to begin with, KNC is having folks physically transport the chips during these transits, in order to bypass customs delays.

I'm sure someone will come up with new fears now. "These folks will take the chips and run!!!"

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September 17, 2013, 03:18:38 PM
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 Not even EVGA, Gigabyte, or Intel could tell you a precise day... They have no control over shipping.

None of them would ever promise product shipment just weeks after receiving A0 silicon either.
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September 17, 2013, 03:22:31 PM
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http://www.coindesk.com/kncminer-offers-free-speed-increase-first-bitcoin-miner-shipments/

Sam Cole, co-founder of KnCMiner, said the fabrication process of the chips has been completed and they are now on their way to an assembly house in Asia, before being shipped to KnCMiner’s offices in Sweden in around six days’ time

The more important bit of info from this is that, as believed by some of us here to begin with, KNC is having folks physically transport the chips during these transits, in order to bypass customs delays.

Where exactly did you read that? I certainly dont read it in the quoted paragraph. "they" clearly refers to the chips and the verb "shipping" implies something else as travelling. Have you ever been "shipped" ?
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September 17, 2013, 03:25:59 PM
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we ll soon arrive to the 500 th post ! this is mental ...

at this point, i think Knc should give a free jupiter miner to the 500 th post !

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September 17, 2013, 03:28:19 PM
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http://www.coindesk.com/kncminer-offers-free-speed-increase-first-bitcoin-miner-shipments/

Sam Cole, co-founder of KnCMiner, said the fabrication process of the chips has been completed and they are now on their way to an assembly house in Asia, before being shipped to KnCMiner’s offices in Sweden in around six days’ time

The more important bit of info from this is that, as believed by some of us here to begin with, KNC is having folks physically transport the chips during these transits, in order to bypass customs delays.

Where exactly did you read that? I certainly dont read it in the quoted paragraph. "they" clearly refers to the chips and the verb "shipping" implies something else as travelling. Have you ever been "shipped" ?


quoting the relevant part of the above article

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We’ve got people personally carrying the chips so we can get through customs faster

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September 17, 2013, 03:29:30 PM
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http://www.coindesk.com/kncminer-offers-free-speed-increase-first-bitcoin-miner-shipments/

Sam Cole, co-founder of KnCMiner, said the fabrication process of the chips has been completed and they are now on their way to an assembly house in Asia, before being shipped to KnCMiner’s offices in Sweden in around six days’ time

The more important bit of info from this is that, as believed by some of us here to begin with, KNC is having folks physically transport the chips during these transits, in order to bypass customs delays.

I'm sure someone will come up with new fears now. "These folks will take the chips and run!!!"

Not a bad idea! Wink

-> 25 wafer from a rocket lot
-> about 500 working chips @ 100 GH/s per wafer
-> market price today? $5 per GH/s?

$6M in small box somewhere in Asia! Wink
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September 17, 2013, 03:32:58 PM
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we ll soon arrive to the 500 th post ! this is mental ...

at this point, i think Knc should give a free jupiter miner to the 500 th post !

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<schameless self-promo>

Prediction: Jupiter's total Gh/s will be > #pages of this thread.

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September 17, 2013, 03:39:28 PM
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quoting the relevant part of the above article


oops, missed the link there. Well, like I said earlier, for the price a flight they'd be nuts not to, so good to hear they are using common sense.
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September 17, 2013, 03:46:37 PM
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http://www.coindesk.com/kncminer-offers-free-speed-increase-first-bitcoin-miner-shipments/

Sam Cole, co-founder of KnCMiner, said the fabrication process of the chips has been completed and they are now on their way to an assembly house in Asia, before being shipped to KnCMiner’s offices in Sweden in around six days’ time

The more important bit of info from this is that, as believed by some of us here to begin with, KNC is having folks physically transport the chips during these transits, in order to bypass customs delays.

I'm sure someone will come up with new fears now. "These folks will take the chips and run!!!"

Not a bad idea! Wink

-> 25 wafer from a rocket lot
-> about 500 working chips @ 100 GH/s per wafer
-> market price today? $5 per GH/s?

$6M in small box somewhere in Asia! Wink


Past seasons of Underbelly would have me worried about Aussie organized crime ripping the shipment off.
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September 17, 2013, 03:49:54 PM
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So either its that, and you get screwed by difficulty,  or you believe most or all of them are exaggerating/lying, in which case, chances are your rig wont arrive in time either.
You are screwed either way, unless you get lucky enough that your miner does ship roughly on time, and almost none of the others. Good luck with that.
Two other ways to do OK:
Be on the hardware development team

or
Be a well known miner dev
Then you usually end up waiting less than most people so you can get things working for when people get the hardware.
We don't get too many "Thanks for writing cgminer - fuck you - ha ha" like KnC have done Smiley
The last time that happened was ... ages ago ... Enterpoint.

Edit: oh funny I forgot - the last time was actually Avalon Cheesy So twice Smiley

Thank you Kano for an awesome free piece of software. I'm sure others myself included will be tipping you for your contributions.  Smiley
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Last edit: September 17, 2013, 04:15:18 PM by sickpig
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Two other ways to do OK:
Be on the hardware development team

or
Be a well known miner dev
Then you usually end up waiting less than most people so you can get things working for when people get the hardware.
We don't get too many "Thanks for writing cgminer - fuck you - ha ha" like KnC have done Smiley
The last time that happened was ... ages ago ... Enterpoint.

Edit: oh funny I forgot - the last time was actually Avalon Cheesy So twice Smiley

Thank you Kano for an awesome free piece of software.
I'm sure others myself included will be tipping you for your contributions.  Smiley

this is a sure thing Tongue

in any case we're talking about open source (actually free software) project and as long as KnC will respect CGminer license (GPLv3) everybody will be happy, no?

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September 17, 2013, 04:03:36 PM
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http://www.coindesk.com/kncminer-offers-free-speed-increase-first-bitcoin-miner-shipments/

Sam Cole, co-founder of KnCMiner, said the fabrication process of the chips has been completed and they are now on their way to an assembly house in Asia, before being shipped to KnCMiner’s offices in Sweden in around six days’ time

The more important bit of info from this is that, as believed by some of us here to begin with, KNC is having folks physically transport the chips during these transits, in order to bypass customs delays.

Where exactly did you read that? I certainly dont read it in the quoted paragraph. "they" clearly refers to the chips and the verb "shipping" implies something else as travelling. Have you ever been "shipped" ?

you just exposed yourself as a clown AGAIN..  let's bet on KNC having personal couriers ok??  money where your brainfart right?

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September 17, 2013, 04:20:13 PM
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So either its that, and you get screwed by difficulty,  or you believe most or all of them are exaggerating/lying, in which case, chances are your rig wont arrive in time either.
You are screwed either way, unless you get lucky enough that your miner does ship roughly on time, and almost none of the others. Good luck with that.
Two other ways to do OK:
Be on the hardware development team

or
Be a well known miner dev
Then you usually end up waiting less than most people so you can get things working for when people get the hardware.
We don't get too many "Thanks for writing cgminer - fuck you - ha ha" like KnC have done Smiley
The last time that happened was ... ages ago ... Enterpoint.

Edit: oh funny I forgot - the last time was actually Avalon Cheesy So twice Smiley

Thank you Kano for an awesome free piece of software. I'm sure others myself included will be tipping you for your contributions.  Smiley


I'm sure KNC will do right by you Kano when the dust settles..  it seems they were trying to stay in 6th gear the whole time and didn't want to deal with shipping to devs and waiting for code, so they went their own on that.

Plus many miners including me will be sending out tips once everything is rolling for sure

thanks mate... I even have to send a few to LukeJr for making a simple as pie bfgminer build that my USBees and ModMiner been running on win7


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September 17, 2013, 04:31:02 PM
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I've given kano 2 btc in the past (almost $300), and now he's a jerk to me whenever I seek help trying to figure out how to get the zadig utility running.  So I switched to bfg.

Requiring zadig is stoopid.  There is no way to force it to recognize the file that cgminer provides.  I still never got a clear answer as to why Lukejr can recognize asics without zadig yet cgminer requires this.  The only answer I ever get is "check the readme".  Gets tired...
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September 17, 2013, 04:38:50 PM
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Open source is Open source,

If you cry about receiving free loot/payments/donations then don't make it open source.

Simple as that.

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September 17, 2013, 04:52:22 PM
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Open source is Open source,

If you cry about receiving free loot/payments/donations then don't make it open source.

Simple as that.

+2

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September 17, 2013, 04:58:13 PM
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Open source is Open source,

If you cry about receiving free loot/payments/donations then don't make it open source.

Simple as that.

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All you need on your open source page is "I will attempt to support all the devices I can, so any manufacturer donation equipment would further this along. Otherwise I happily take donations to buy hardware so that I may support it" Otherwise having OSS's it not much else you can do.
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September 17, 2013, 04:58:15 PM
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http://www.coindesk.com/kncminer-offers-free-speed-increase-first-bitcoin-miner-shipments/

Sam Cole, co-founder of KnCMiner, said the fabrication process of the chips has been completed and they are now on their way to an assembly house in Asia, before being shipped to KnCMiner’s offices in Sweden in around six days’ time

The more important bit of info from this is that, as believed by some of us here to begin with, KNC is having folks physically transport the chips during these transits, in order to bypass customs delays.

I'm sure someone will come up with new fears now. "These folks will take the chips and run!!!"

Not a bad idea! Wink

-> 25 wafer from a rocket lot
-> about 500 working chips @ 100 GH/s per wafer
-> market price today? $5 per GH/s?

$6M in small box somewhere in Asia! Wink


$5/Gh/s for a late october pre-order maybe.  For raw chips, in hand, today they could go for $20-30 million.  Assuming you could get PCBs made. And the correct software.

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September 17, 2013, 05:54:43 PM
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Open source is Open source,

If you cry about receiving free loot/payments/donations then don't make it open source.

Simple as that.

+2
+3

All you need on your open source page is "I will attempt to support all the devices I can, so any manufacturer donation equipment would further this along. Otherwise I happily take donations to buy hardware so that I may support it" Otherwise having OSS's it not much else you can do.

THAT... was a completely douche bag comment. And anyone who +1'd shares that shame... This is the most ignorant comment I have seen on here to date. Perhaps you would like to pay Microsoft or some other BS For Profit company a licensing fee, so that you can pay them for each miner you install it on? sound good?...  Kano and ckolivas have saved each and every one of us that use his software what could potentially had been millions of dollars by not putting a price on his software.

Take the sticks out of your asses and show a little gratitude.
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September 17, 2013, 06:07:10 PM
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Open source is Open source,

If you cry about receiving free loot/payments/donations then don't make it open source.

Simple as that.

+2
+3

All you need on your open source page is "I will attempt to support all the devices I can, so any manufacturer donation equipment would further this along. Otherwise I happily take donations to buy hardware so that I may support it" Otherwise having OSS's it not much else you can do.

THAT... was a completely douche bag comment. And anyone who +1'd shares that shame... This is the most ignorant comment I have seen on here to date. Perhaps you would like to pay Microsoft or some other BS For Profit company a licensing fee, so that you can pay them for each miner you install it on? sound good?...  Kano and ckolivas have saved each and every one of us that use his software what could potentially had been millions of dollars by not putting a price on his software.

Take the sticks out of your asses and show a little gratitude.

You are a complete moron if you think they are the only ones capable of designing such software.

You don't see Luke_Jr coming on here with a God Complex yelling that everyone should give him a free miner.

If he wanted to be paid for his services and not with "donations" he should have a licensing fee and then others would come along and make their own open source software.

Get your head out of their ass fanboy,

I'm grateful for his work but his attitude is total shit.

Amen, brother.  Truer words were never spoken.  Kano's attitude will soon enough drive everyone (except the fanboys such as Mr. Rizzmann) to BFGMiner.

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