Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com

[dhenson]

For KNC to compete with Bitfury they should have delivered weeks ago, now it's simply too late. KNC first said they would deliver this Summer, then it became September and now it's (hopefully) before the end of September. I know it's a tight schedule, but Bitfury has shown they can deliver when they say they can deliver, KNC so far has not. Hashrate would need to be over 600Gh/s and power consumption under 600W to compete with Bitfury, I don't see that happening.

You have math to back up that assertion, or are you simply talking out of your ass?

[Miz4r]

How about you check up on Bitfury miner's specs yourself? It's out there in the open, nothing secret about it.

[Meizirkki]

I'm sorry do you really expect people to not keep purchasing hardware to the point by which profit margins are squeezed to such an extent they are minimal in comparison to electricity

as some have pointed out these pre-order schemes make people buy even more hardware than your above post suggest.

KnC provoded the safest bet with people's funds that's all.

lets see their delivery date before crowning anyone.  

[timmmers]

So, it's 8 days an counting down for KNCminer to fulfill their first ship promise.

Just a what if......KNCminer releases info. 5-7 days late on purpose....any idea where that puts them in the process....anyone?

That would be a clever way to keep their promises and give themselves some leeway.

I hope they thought of it

[sobani]

How about you check up on Bitfury miner's specs yourself? It's out there in the open, nothing secret about it.

Translation:

I can't backup what I say and would like other people to do the work for me.

A Bitfury 400GH Miner (October Delivery) does 400GH for 400W, you can get it in October and costs a little bit less than the first KNC batch.

So in order for my Jupiter order to have been a smart (or lucky) decision, KNC will indeed need to over deliver on their promise, especially on the hash rate, in which case the lower GH/$ should compensate the higher J/GH.

Wish us luck

[titomane]

How about you check up on Bitfury miner's specs yourself? It's out there in the open, nothing secret about it.

In this auction you can see that consumption is not 0.7w/Ghs wall is 1.56w/Ghs

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BITFURY-55nm-ASIC-Bitcoin-Miner-In-Hand-115-GHashes-180W-not-Avalon-BFL-/111172547420?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19e266735c

When visiting KNC this summer. One of my questions were Regarding consumption. Why only 0.7w/Ghs bitfury 55nm?
I did it in a room at Marcus and Andreas, one of the two workers who had our back, replied "They have not shown"

Now this device 115Ghs and 180w, ratifies the KNC worker

[Meizirkki]

In this auction you can see that consumption is not 0.7w/Ghs wall is 1.56w/Ghs

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BITFURY-55nm-ASIC-Bitcoin-Miner-In-Hand-115-GHashes-180W-not-Avalon-BFL-/111172547420?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19e266735c

When visiting KNC this summer. One of my questions were Regarding consumption. Why only 0.7w/Ghs bitfury 55nm?
I did it in a room at Marcus and Andreas, one of the two workers who had our back, replied "They have not shown"

Now this device 115Ghs and 180w, ratifies the KNC worker

bitfury chip can do 0.3W/Gh
Complete devices delivered by Bitfurystrikesback did 0.8W/Gh, measured at wall.

Just fixing your facts

[gyverlb]

How about you check up on Bitfury miner's specs yourself? It's out there in the open, nothing secret about it.

In this auction you can see that consumption is not 0.7w/Ghs wall is 1.56w/Ghs

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BITFURY-55nm-ASIC-Bitcoin-Miner-In-Hand-115-GHashes-180W-not-Avalon-BFL-/111172547420?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19e266735c

When visiting KNC this summer. One of my questions were Regarding consumption. Why only 0.7w/Ghs bitfury 55nm?
I did it in a room at Marcus and Andreas, one of the two workers who had our back, replied "They have not shown"

Now this device 115Ghs and 180w, ratifies the KNC worker

The Bitfury chip consumption is tunable (like most ASIC manufacturers have promised for their own).
The BitfuryStrikesBack 400GH/s miners use 16x16 = 256 chips, the one in your link only use 5x8 = 40 chips (as far as we can tell from the pictures) to reach 115GH/s. Obviously they aren't configured to use the same frequency, voltage, ...

[titomane]

The Bitfury chip consumption is tunable (like most ASIC manufacturers have promised for their own).
The BitfuryStrikesBack 400GH/s miners use 16x16 = 256 chips, the one in your link only use 5x8 = 40 chips (as far as we can tell from the pictures) to reach 115GH/s. Obviously they aren't configured to use the same frequency, voltage, ...

Buyer say NOT OVERCLOCKED

[gyverlb]

The Bitfury chip consumption is tunable (like most ASIC manufacturers have promised for their own).
The BitfuryStrikesBack 400GH/s miners use 16x16 = 256 chips, the one in your link only use 5x8 = 40 chips (as far as we can tell from the pictures) to reach 115GH/s. Obviously they aren't configured to use the same frequency, voltage, ...

Buyer say NOT OVERCLOCKED

I assume you mean Seller.

"not overclocked" is probably referring to the default configuration of this particular miner which the seller didn't change. As I tried to explain in my previous post there's no single "maximum" frequency for Bitfury chips it depends on the voltage, converter max amperage, cooling solution, ...

So apples, oranges...

[titomane]

In this auction you can see that consumption is not 0.7w/Ghs wall is 1.56w/Ghs

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BITFURY-55nm-ASIC-Bitcoin-Miner-In-Hand-115-GHashes-180W-not-Avalon-BFL-/111172547420?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19e266735c

When visiting KNC this summer. One of my questions were Regarding consumption. Why only 0.7w/Ghs bitfury 55nm?
I did it in a room at Marcus and Andreas, one of the two workers who had our back, replied "They have not shown"

Now this device 115Ghs and 180w, ratifies the KNC worker

bitfury chip can do 0.3W/Gh
Complete devices delivered by Bitfurystrikesback did 0.8W/Gh, measured at wall.

Just fixing your facts

Bitfury 400Ghs  =  256 chips  =  1,56 Gh/s per chip
Ebay Device 115=    40 chips = 2,87 Ghs/ per chip

With the current rate of difficulty and up is much more profitable than 256 chips had a hashrate of 734 Gh/s

With 400Gh/s &   400w win 7340$ first month
http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/a/e01d0bc449
With 734Gh/s & 1150w win 13400$ first month
http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/a/acc6a91153


Which do you prefer? BTC or watts. Because I'm not greenpeace mining.

[Meizirkki]

So you did care enough to do some research of your own. Nice.

[DPoS]

So you did care enough to do some research of your own. Nice.

you didn't respond to the part where he clowned you for caring about wattage

are you going to make some graph that shows how long term power savings means a shit compared to short term Gh increase?

[xstr8guy]

How about you check up on Bitfury miner's specs yourself? It's out there in the open, nothing secret about it.

In this auction you can see that consumption is not 0.7w/Ghs wall is 1.56w/Ghs

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BITFURY-55nm-ASIC-Bitcoin-Miner-In-Hand-115-GHashes-180W-not-Avalon-BFL-/111172547420?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19e266735c

When visiting KNC this summer. One of my questions were Regarding consumption. Why only 0.7w/Ghs bitfury 55nm?
I did it in a room at Marcus and Andreas, one of the two workers who had our back, replied "They have not shown"

Now this device 115Ghs and 180w, ratifies the KNC worker

That's the Russian version, same chips, different setup. The discussion here is comparing the US and EU implementation of the Bitfury chip.

[Anenome5]

Have you seen those Bitfury rigs? Look like something a mad-scientist came up with, held together with cardboard and chewing-gum. Hope none of them have a cat, they'll ruin that thing by jumping on it in five seconds flat.

http://thegenesisblock.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/bitfury3.png?a3bf7d

[RChevalier]

wow, nice strategy. I'm on slush with quite constant 60 GH/s with 3 BF-H-cards. I get around 0.5 BTC daily at the moment. I see there is space for improvement, thank you 

What the shit!?  How you getting .5 a day?  I'm on Slush as well with 60GH/s and only get .23 a day...

[Micky25]

it's getting harder but on lucky days, I still reach 0.5.

I keep my hashrate constant at over 60 GH/s by restarting the stratum-proxy every hour. My difficulty is 32.

[RChevalier]

it's getting harder but on lucky days, I still reach 0.5.

I keep my hashrate constant at over 60 GH/s by restarting the stratum-proxy every hour. My difficulty is 32.

I didn't know you could mine this way...  .23 vs .5 is crazy.  That's more than having another miner altogether.  How does one restart the stratum every hour and is that all it takes?

[Paladin69]

How does one restart the stratum every hour and is that all it takes?

+1

Do you mean just quitting and restarting?

[AussieHash]

How does one restart the stratum every hour and is that all it takes?

+1

Do you mean just quitting and restarting?

Is there not a more appropriate thread to post in ?