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September 21, 2013, 05:51:58 PM |
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For KNC to compete with Bitfury they should have delivered weeks ago, now it's simply too late. KNC first said they would deliver this Summer, then it became September and now it's (hopefully) before the end of September. I know it's a tight schedule, but Bitfury has shown they can deliver when they say they can deliver, KNC so far has not. Hashrate would need to be over 600Gh/s and power consumption under 600W to compete with Bitfury, I don't see that happening.
You have math to back up that assertion, or are you simply talking out of your ass? ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rottenecards.com%2Fecards%2FRottenecards_13413360_9fxsm6yvbv.png&t=665&c=YEA-huH_u-P6xg)
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Miz4r
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September 21, 2013, 06:02:14 PM |
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How about you check up on Bitfury miner's specs yourself? It's out there in the open, nothing secret about it.
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Bitcoin = Gold on steroids
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Meizirkki
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September 21, 2013, 06:07:09 PM |
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I'm sorry do you really expect people to not keep purchasing hardware to the point by which profit margins are squeezed to such an extent they are minimal in comparison to electricity
as some have pointed out these pre-order schemes make people buy even more hardware than your above post suggest. KnC provoded the safest bet with people's funds that's all.
lets see their delivery date before crowning anyone. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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September 21, 2013, 07:39:31 PM |
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So, it's 8 days an counting down for KNCminer to fulfill their first ship promise.
Just a what if......KNCminer releases info. 5-7 days late on purpose....any idea where that puts them in the process....anyone? That would be a clever way to keep their promises and give themselves some leeway. I hope they thought of it ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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September 21, 2013, 08:43:44 PM |
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How about you check up on Bitfury miner's specs yourself? It's out there in the open, nothing secret about it.
Translation: I can't backup what I say and would like other people to do the work for me. A Bitfury 400GH Miner (October Delivery) does 400GH for 400W, you can get it in October and costs a little bit less than the first KNC batch. So in order for my Jupiter order to have been a smart (or lucky) decision, KNC will indeed need to over deliver on their promise, especially on the hash rate, in which case the lower GH/$ should compensate the higher J/GH. Wish us luck ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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September 21, 2013, 09:06:17 PM |
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The Bitfury chip consumption is tunable (like most ASIC manufacturers have promised for their own). The BitfuryStrikesBack 400GH/s miners use 16x16 = 256 chips, the one in your link only use 5x8 = 40 chips (as far as we can tell from the pictures) to reach 115GH/s. Obviously they aren't configured to use the same frequency, voltage, ...
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September 21, 2013, 09:17:30 PM |
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The Bitfury chip consumption is tunable (like most ASIC manufacturers have promised for their own). The BitfuryStrikesBack 400GH/s miners use 16x16 = 256 chips, the one in your link only use 5x8 = 40 chips (as far as we can tell from the pictures) to reach 115GH/s. Obviously they aren't configured to use the same frequency, voltage, ...
Buyer say NOT OVERCLOCKED
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gyverlb
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September 21, 2013, 09:32:23 PM |
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The Bitfury chip consumption is tunable (like most ASIC manufacturers have promised for their own). The BitfuryStrikesBack 400GH/s miners use 16x16 = 256 chips, the one in your link only use 5x8 = 40 chips (as far as we can tell from the pictures) to reach 115GH/s. Obviously they aren't configured to use the same frequency, voltage, ...
Buyer say NOT OVERCLOCKED I assume you mean Seller. "not overclocked" is probably referring to the default configuration of this particular miner which the seller didn't change. As I tried to explain in my previous post there's no single "maximum" frequency for Bitfury chips it depends on the voltage, converter max amperage, cooling solution, ... So apples, oranges...
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Meizirkki
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September 21, 2013, 09:47:46 PM |
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So you did care enough to do some research of your own. Nice. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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September 21, 2013, 11:01:09 PM |
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So you did care enough to do some research of your own. Nice. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) you didn't respond to the part where he clowned you for caring about wattage are you going to make some graph that shows how long term power savings means a shit compared to short term Gh increase?
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September 22, 2013, 12:28:32 AM |
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That's the Russian version, same chips, different setup. The discussion here is comparing the US and EU implementation of the Bitfury chip.
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September 22, 2013, 03:46:32 AM |
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wow, nice strategy. I'm on slush with quite constant 60 GH/s with 3 BF-H-cards. I get around 0.5 BTC daily at the moment. I see there is space for improvement, thank you ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) What the shit!? How you getting .5 a day? I'm on Slush as well with 60GH/s and only get .23 a day...
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Micky25
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September 22, 2013, 06:07:17 AM |
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it's getting harder but on lucky days, I still reach 0.5.
I keep my hashrate constant at over 60 GH/s by restarting the stratum-proxy every hour. My difficulty is 32.
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September 22, 2013, 07:20:36 AM |
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it's getting harder but on lucky days, I still reach 0.5.
I keep my hashrate constant at over 60 GH/s by restarting the stratum-proxy every hour. My difficulty is 32.
I didn't know you could mine this way... .23 vs .5 is crazy. That's more than having another miner altogether. How does one restart the stratum every hour and is that all it takes?
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September 22, 2013, 07:32:06 AM |
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How does one restart the stratum every hour and is that all it takes?
+1 Do you mean just quitting and restarting?
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September 22, 2013, 07:36:52 AM |
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How does one restart the stratum every hour and is that all it takes?
+1 Do you mean just quitting and restarting? Is there not a more appropriate thread to post in ?
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