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There's only two scenarios that can happen at this point. 1. KNC blows everybodys minds and pulls a big ass rabbit out of its hat. or 2. We all find out that we participated in one of the greatest Bitcoin scam in history (to date). Personally, I for one believe we will still see #1 and Orama will be checking in sometime tomorrow or later tonite once he gets situated in Stockholm and by the end of the weekend we will see all the naysayers crawl back into their caves and smolder until the next big thing is announced. cointerra maybe  . In the meantime guys, we are at the point of no return... Just sit back and wait... 72 hours will go pretty quickly. This is going to be an interesting weekend. Pulling a rabbit from a hat is unexpected , delivering on time as promised...that's not. There are other magic tricks concerning making things like money vanish by misdirection. lol All they needed to do was say "Right. The first rigs will be in customer's hands on the 29th, production started today or starts tomorrow" . Not dramatic, but logical and much nicer for people who are waiting ...and even trying to make sure they will be around to collect the package. I'm sorry, I do not believe saying anything this close to the end of the game would be constructive. Considering how on edge everyone who placed orders is, I too would keep quiet if in the same situation. They are in a catch-22, Say something - Draw criticism, incite FUD. Don't Say something - Draw criticism, incite FUD. At this point, its better to do than to talk. Again, we shall wait and see...This is going to be an interesting weekend.
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September 26, 2013, 05:36:02 PM |
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Miners will be sent somewhere next week, monday - friday. w00t
I think two weeks... Or more if it will be next TerraHash klondike board fail
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September 26, 2013, 05:37:48 PM |
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I TOLD YA SO!!!
Now they are no longer giving refunds!!!
I'm glad I got mine!!!
Now, it's a suckers bash, a party for the pansies.
The Easter Bunny is selling stock in colored Easter Eggs, if any fools on here want some of that. I think the Easter Bunny produces like 10,000 eggs a day for children across the world. Imagine if you had stock in just 1/100 of that action?
I'm selling, who's buying? I expect a mass exodus from KNC into colored Easter Eggs now. Come on, come all, SUCKERS!
Really? Good job... Guess that makes you the smartest asshole on this thread aye? Your comments have done nothing in contributing anything useful to this discussion. As such, I reward you the greatest of all rewards you shall ever achieve - 1st ever on to my ignore list
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September 26, 2013, 05:39:45 PM |
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I TOLD YA SO!!!
Now they are no longer giving refunds!!!
I'm glad I got mine!!!
Now, it's a suckers bash, a party for the pansies.
The Easter Bunny is selling stock in colored Easter Eggs, if any fools on here want some of that. I think the Easter Bunny produces like 10,000 eggs a day for children across the world. Imagine if you had stock in just 1/100 of that action?
I'm selling, who's buying? I expect a mass exodus from KNC into colored Easter Eggs now. Come on, come all, SUCKERS!
Really? Good job... Guess that makes you the smartest asshole on this thread aye? Your comments have done nothing in contributing anything useful to this discussion. As such, I reward you the greatest of all rewards you shall ever achieve - 1st ever on to my ignore list Thank you for the honors. But every time someone captures and quotes me, I LIVE ON, and my words can be read by everyone, so who cares if you "Ignore me", everyone in the forum would have to, for me to be silenced. Stupid fool! - Want to buy some colored Easter Eggs from my newest batch producer?
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Why does Bitrebel have 65+ Ignores? Because Bitrebel says things that some people do not want YOU to hear.
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Anduck
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September 26, 2013, 05:43:29 PM |
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Do you seriously think they would have "shipped" (or imported, really) their n°1 salesman for a no-show?
They purposefully withold information, make it slightly vague (or slightly misrepresent it) etc. to create D.R.A.M.A. = free marketing. (that or they're just lame)
I dont think this is the case. I think they don't really have the product yet.. They might get it just a bit late but what is for sure, customers won't get their orders delivered in this month.There's "plenty" of time still, besides, 1 customer with a delivery ('orama anyone?) = delivered in September. Spin, spin, spin. So if you are promised September delivery and the guy next to you gets his stuff as promised but you dont, you just go "yeah they did what they promised, delivered in September!! yaay!!??  If customers units are not delivered in September even though when they ordered it said they will be... They missed the target, then.
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September 26, 2013, 05:43:42 PM |
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Geez, my ignore list is getting ridiculously full in this thread
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Anduck
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September 26, 2013, 05:45:07 PM |
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Geez, my ignore list is getting ridiculously full in this thread
You shouldn't watch a thread that has no purpose, then. What did you expect? Also FYI it's not hipster anymore to be ignoring everyone 
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September 26, 2013, 05:46:34 PM |
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COLORED EASTER EGGS!!!
GET YOUR COLORED EASTER EGGS HERE!!!
Use your Bitcoin Miner refund from KNC for 25% off a Batch Easter Egg Producer . Get in on the action NOW!
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Why does Bitrebel have 65+ Ignores? Because Bitrebel says things that some people do not want YOU to hear.
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rizzman
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September 26, 2013, 05:46:43 PM |
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Oh, and for the record... As Terrahash has found out... Anyone who paid with Credit , still has an out whether or not KNC honors their promise or not. There is still the ability to dispute through your credit card issuer. I know it works, as I had to do it with Terrahash. So relax, if they still don't have the goods shipping by the 1st, you can always go that route.
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September 26, 2013, 05:49:24 PM |
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Oh, and for the record... As Terrahash has found out... Anyone who paid with Credit , still has an out whether or not KNC honors their promise or not. There is still the ability to dispute through your credit card issuer. I know it works, as I had to do it with Terrahash. So relax, if they still don't have the goods shipping by the 1st, you can always go that route.
Exactly! Plenty of time to still get your Easter Egg, Batch Producer! We are offering Minis, Maxis, and the Variable coloration model. We even have an in house breeding box you can rent and we will take care of everything for you.
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Why does Bitrebel have 65+ Ignores? Because Bitrebel says things that some people do not want YOU to hear.
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September 26, 2013, 05:50:05 PM |
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Geez, my ignore list is getting ridiculously full in this thread
Alas, it's difficult to ignore the truth. I'm not on order and want this to work for you guys - but I'm getting worried watching this.
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September 26, 2013, 05:50:53 PM |
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How many machines were people expecting to see shipped on this first run of chips?
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September 26, 2013, 05:51:31 PM |
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How many machines were people expecting to see shipped on this first run of chips?
All. Now. They got chips last week so they ship this week. They promised!
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September 26, 2013, 05:51:51 PM |
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Do you seriously think they would have "shipped" (or imported, really) their n°1 salesman for a no-show?
Of course they did it, they need him the most for a no-show. They brought Bitcoinrama to do the damage control, do nice interview that will show everybody how smart they are, take some photos of empty data-center ready to mine any second, eventually do some screenshot of FPGA populated PCBs hashing, etc. Bitcoinrama is an inventive guy, he'll think of something to make refund-stop look like less bad. Who can rage at such hard working and smart girls & boys?
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Anduck
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September 26, 2013, 05:53:14 PM |
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Do you seriously think they would have "shipped" (or imported, really) their n°1 salesman for a no-show?
Of course they did it, they need him the most for a no-show. They brought him to do the damage control, do nice interview that will show everybody how smart they are, take some photos of empty data-center ready to mine any second, eventually do some screenshot of FPGA populated PCB hashing, etc. Bitcoinrama is inventive guy, he'll think of something to make refund-stop look like less bad. Who can rage at such hard working and smart girls & boys? Are you refering to BFL? But the product BFL showed us was a case with fans and nexus tablet..
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September 26, 2013, 05:54:42 PM |
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Do you seriously think they would have "shipped" (or imported, really) their n°1 salesman for a no-show?
Of course they did it, they need him the most for a no-show. They brought him to do the damage control, do nice interview that will show everybody how smart they are, take some photos of empty data-center ready to mine any second, eventually do some screenshot of FPGA populated PCB hashing, etc. Bitcoinrama is inventive guy, he'll think of something to make refund-stop look like less bad. Who can rage at such hard working and smart girls & boys? Are you refering to BFL? Yes, BFL paid Bitcoinrama a ticket to Stockholm to save the KnC public image
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September 26, 2013, 05:57:42 PM |
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The silence of their No.1 salesman does not bode well - this looks like another BFL/Avalon play
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September 26, 2013, 05:59:30 PM |
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How many machines were people expecting to see shipped on this first run of chips?
The original Orders numbered around 890. so figure even if every order placed was for 10 units (not likely) that would be 8900 units - 1 reel of chips would in theory cover this order. I'm not worried until 15 Oct rolls around... after that, then its worry time.
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September 26, 2013, 05:59:53 PM |
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Who still believes that a company that gets chips (done in the fab) less than 2 week before the complete working units should be in customers' hands, can deliver the promise?
Even NVIDIA or Intel couldn't do that!
To be fair, what nVidia and intel produce is infinitely more complicated than a bitcoin asic. I too have my reservations about all those promised deadlines, but comparisons to GPUs and CPu's are simply not valid. Well, true that but KNC has never tested that specific ASIC - they don't know about the real chip, only simulations. Sometimes you breadboard a circuit and it works right the first time. Sometimes no. I believe they'll be happy with their ASIC's performance in situ.
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September 26, 2013, 06:01:08 PM |
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Welcome to the world class thinkers, "I can get something for nothing" crowd...
 It's not me supporting the guys at the TOP of the PYRAMID! - Not anymore! So, who is working for the "dark side"? Well, those funding the preorders for the ASIC Companies, who will make THEM Millionaires while making all of you SLAVES, hashing at a fraction of the capacity you bought into, while GIVING ENERGY, (FORCE) to those WHO CONTROL YOU! For me, No thanks! I retook my power from the evil dark side of ASIC mining companies.  Really? How'd you get out of paying taxes?
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