Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com

[fubly]

It is also not fair from knc to not answer about production and
shipping. I have opened an ticket inside the https://kncminer.zendesk.com



Im really angry about this!

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[Biffa]

Quite funny "be in game", people selling they cars just be in your game, i like people who just plugged their jupiter switch on get $$$$ and pretend be genius in business stuffs. There was a guy on bfl forum he invest in Josh 60Ghs miner, he wait too long to reach his dream (his dau die on leukemia) playing with people's money a visions about 3ths don't be......

OK, I'm trying to work out if we are in agreement or not, I'm hoping we are, and my apologies if I am wrong

Personally I don't think there is any business knowledge involved in switching a Jupiter on and getting some $$$ out of it, however there is some luck and courage (which are business skills btw) involved in risking some of your hard earned coin on unreleased hardware. Picking the right device from the right manufacturer at the right time is more luck than skill, thats why I'm still half looking at HF and Cointerra and Black Arrow. If there is even a twinkle of info that looks legit about them launching between here and Q2 next year, I may hedge my bets on the Neptune by nabbing one of theirs. But I'll probably be too late, too chicken, can't have that much luck right?

[Biffa]

It is also not fair from knc to not answer about production and
shipping. I have opened an ticket inside the https://kncminer.zendesk.com

Im really angry about this!

I'm in the same boat man, but remember you just opened a ticket after 7pm in Sweden time, it won't get looked at till tommorow now unless they are in all-hands-on-deck mode.

[Phoenix1969]

I must have missed something.....   Can someone direct me to where it was stated that the Neptune deliveries would be separated in "Batches"?  Just because there was an order gap, and price difference between Noobs & old customers, means nothing towards delivery time except we ordered first, and therefore get ours first... as far as I see...   I cannot find anything to support the theory there would be some kind of gap between deliveries...   remember last batch?

[ASIC-K]

I must have missed something.....   Can someone direct me to where it was stated that the Neptune deliveries would be separated in "Batches"?  Just because there was an order gap, and price difference between Noobs & old customers, means nothing towards delivery time as far as I see...   I cannot find anything to support that theory.

not batches per say, but on the site it does state the 13k price orders will come 3-4 weeks after first "batch" orders.

[Biffa]

I must have missed something.....   Can someone direct me to where it was stated that the Neptune deliveries would be separated in "Batches"?  Just because there was an order gap, and price difference between Noobs & old customers, means nothing towards delivery time as far as I see...   I cannot find anything to support that theory.

not batches per say, but on the site it does state the 13k price orders will come 3-4 weeks after first "batch" orders.

Yup it does

Neptune is our first 20nm product and will be shipping in Q1/Q2 of 2014.

The stats and performance that we can release today are

• Minimum 3000GH/s of hashing speed that 3TH Over 5 times the speed of our first Jupiter release (we reserve the right to increase this as we get closer to shipment)
• A 30% reduction in watts per GH
• Based on the existing Jupiter design (See photo, however this may change as development progresses)
• Shipment begins in Q1/Q2 of 2014
• Bitcoins first ever 20nm miner bought to you form the company who shipped the first 28nm bitcoin miner
• Limited batch of 1200 units,
• Payment for this product is bitcoins and bank transfer only.
• These boxes will ship 3-4 weeks after the first Neptune Batch
• All refunds will be refunded in dollars and you can refund up to shipment

[Phoenix1969]

I must have missed something.....   Can someone direct me to where it was stated that the Neptune deliveries would be separated in "Batches"?  Just because there was an order gap, and price difference between Noobs & old customers, means nothing towards delivery time as far as I see...   I cannot find anything to support that theory.

not batches per say, but on the site it does state the 13k price orders will come 3-4 weeks after first "batch" orders.

Yes, exactly what I'm talking about... can u show me where it says that plz?  I seriously am looking for it...

[chrono030]

I must have missed something.....   Can someone direct me to where it was stated that the Neptune deliveries would be separated in "Batches"?  Just because there was an order gap, and price difference between Noobs & old customers, means nothing towards delivery time as far as I see...   I cannot find anything to support that theory.

not batches per say, but on the site it does state the 13k price orders will come 3-4 weeks after first "batch" orders.

Yes, exactly what I'm talking about... can u show me where it says that plz?  I seriously am looking for it...

Try https://www.kncminer.com/categories/miners

[xstr8guy]

I must have missed something.....   Can someone direct me to where it was stated that the Neptune deliveries would be separated in "Batches"?  Just because there was an order gap, and price difference between Noobs & old customers, means nothing towards delivery time except we ordered first, and therefore get ours first... as far as I see...   I cannot find anything to support the theory there would be some kind of gap between deliveries...   remember last batch?

https://www.kncminer.com/products/neptune

Neptune is our first 20nm product and will be shipping in Q1/Q2 of 2014.
The stats and performance that we can release today are
Minimum 3000GH/s of hashing speed that 3TH Over 5 times the speed of our first Jupiter release
   (we reserve the right to increase this as we get closer to shipment)
A 30% reduction in watts per GH
Based on the existing Jupiter design (See photo, however this may change as development progresses)
Shipment begins in Q1/Q2 of 2014
Bitcoins first ever 20nm miner bought to you form the company who shipped the first 28nm bitcoin miner
Limited batch of 1200 units,
Payment for this product is bitcoins and bank transfer only.
These boxes will ship 3-4 weeks after the first Neptune Batch
All refunds will be refunded in dollars and you can refund up to shipment

[ASIC-K]

    Neptune
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Neptune is our first 20nm product and will be shipping in Q1/Q2 of 2014.
The stats and performance that we can release today are
Minimum 3000GH/s of hashing speed that 3TH Over 5 times the speed of our first Jupiter release
   (we reserve the right to increase this as we get closer to shipment)
A 30% reduction in watts per GH
Based on the existing Jupiter design (See photo, however this may change as development progresses)
Shipment begins in Q1/Q2 of 2014
Bitcoins first ever 20nm miner bought to you form the company who shipped the first 28nm bitcoin miner
Limited batch of 1200 units,
Payment for this product is bitcoins and bank transfer only.
These boxes will ship 3-4 weeks after the first batch
All refunds will be refunded in dollars and you can refund up to shipment
$ 12,995.00
ADD TO CART DETAILS

[Biffa]

I must have missed something.....   Can someone direct me to where it was stated that the Neptune deliveries would be separated in "Batches"?  Just because there was an order gap, and price difference between Noobs & old customers, means nothing towards delivery time except we ordered first, and therefore get ours first... as far as I see...   I cannot find anything to support the theory there would be some kind of gap between deliveries...   remember last batch?

https://www.kncminer.com/products/neptune

Beatcha! and mine had bullet points neener

[xstr8guy]

I must have missed something.....   Can someone direct me to where it was stated that the Neptune deliveries would be separated in "Batches"?  Just because there was an order gap, and price difference between Noobs & old customers, means nothing towards delivery time except we ordered first, and therefore get ours first... as far as I see...   I cannot find anything to support the theory there would be some kind of gap between deliveries...   remember last batch?

https://www.kncminer.com/products/neptune

Beatcha! and mine had bullet points neener

I blame it on my iPhone!

[ASIC-K]

time to get old man glasses Phoenix! lol

[xstr8guy]

I must have missed something.....   Can someone direct me to where it was stated that the Neptune deliveries would be separated in "Batches"?  Just because there was an order gap, and price difference between Noobs & old customers, means nothing towards delivery time as far as I see...   I cannot find anything to support that theory.

not batches per say, but on the site it does state the 13k price orders will come 3-4 weeks after first "batch" orders.

It actually does say "batch"

- Limited batch of 1200 units,

-These boxes will ship 3-4 weeks after the first Neptune Batch

[Biffa]

I must have missed something.....   Can someone direct me to where it was stated that the Neptune deliveries would be separated in "Batches"?  Just because there was an order gap, and price difference between Noobs & old customers, means nothing towards delivery time as far as I see...   I cannot find anything to support that theory.

not batches per say, but on the site it does state the 13k price orders will come 3-4 weeks after first "batch" orders.

It actually does say "batch"

- Limited batch of 1200 units,

-These boxes will ship 3-4 weeks after the first Neptune Batch

Guess that'll be a batch then  

Think Phoenix1969 (young whippersnapper) is probably starting to go loopy without his Jupiters and Saturns to keep him company. Tweaking these things keeps you DAMN SHARP I tell ya!   

[Xian01]

I must have missed something.....   Can someone direct me to where it was stated that the Neptune deliveries would be separated in "Batches"?  Just because there was an order gap, and price difference between Noobs & old customers, means nothing towards delivery time as far as I see...   I cannot find anything to support that theory.

not batches per say, but on the site it does state the 13k price orders will come 3-4 weeks after first "batch" orders.

 All the more reason for new customers of KNC not to purchase this item at $13k.

[Phoenix1969]

THANKS GUYS...see it... blind this morning....lol

[Crypto_Cumbrian]

I must have missed something.....   Can someone direct me to where it was stated that the Neptune deliveries would be separated in "Batches"?  Just because there was an order gap, and price difference between Noobs & old customers, means nothing towards delivery time except we ordered first, and therefore get ours first... as far as I see...   I cannot find anything to support the theory there would be some kind of gap between deliveries...   remember last batch?

So are they rewarding their original customers with a discount and a few week of mining exclusivity or is it going to take 4 weeks of production to get the first batch out of the door.

[Biffa]

I must have missed something.....   Can someone direct me to where it was stated that the Neptune deliveries would be separated in "Batches"?  Just because there was an order gap, and price difference between Noobs & old customers, means nothing towards delivery time except we ordered first, and therefore get ours first... as far as I see...   I cannot find anything to support the theory there would be some kind of gap between deliveries...   remember last batch?

So are they rewarding their original customers with a discount and a few week of mining exclusivity or is it going to take 4 weeks of production to get the first batch out of the door.

Both?

[tdcooper99]

I do think paying 3k more $ for being a first time customer is totally OK. What is really hard to understand is paying 3k$ more AND being delivered 1 month AFTER the 1st batch, which will be hashing by then, sky-rocketing the difficulty.

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To sum it up, first time customers have a 3k$ discount AND a 11K to 15K $ guaranteed added profit, at current BTC price.
So a total of 14 to 18K $ gain, but most probably much more.

I guess if the only difference between me and the first batch guys is profit, then I'm semi-ok with that.  KnC can do what they want with their business...  and customers can vote with their wallets and either buy or not.  There's no "fair" per se...  business is business...  and it would seem they are attracting the customers regardless, so who can fault that?  Bottom line is...  if it all goes tits up (in all the ways that have been discussed at length here), then the 10k customers are pretty much just as fucked as me  ...  except I am a few more $$$ in the hole.  What the hell... My risk to take, and I'm in this thing with my eyes wide open.