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May 02, 2018, 01:37:19 PM
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Can anybody clarify is there any chance for Tezos to become successful taking in account that EOS, TRON, NEO and many others are the real competitors to Tezos?
Is there too late for launching?

I don't think TRON and NEO, these Chinese dominated projects, will succeed in the future. The star effect is more than the true value of these projects. I have invested into none of them.


I disagree, NEO is an excellent project and more and more high-grade projects are running on the NEO blockchain. But I don't care about Tron too.
We all know that tezos is a big enemy of Eth, and so it might be a competitor too with NEO and EOS. We can't say it now but i'm sure tezos will become successful if they will be no conflict with the founders of this project. So far tezos is moving and few months left for main net launching.
ETH is POW, wanna be POS in the future, Tezos is DPOS. Tezos has unique consensus mechanism that allows making changes in protocol without doing hardfork, ETH doesn't. Tezos is also using completely different programming language.
I don't see similarities or zerosum competition here.

It´s mostly about their capabilities they can offer for developers/companies. And since Tezos is able to do a lot of thing ETH does, it will surely bring up some competition. But that´s the best part. Crypto won´t evolve without having competition
Could be right. after all it comes down to, which platform will be used most by businesses and developers. 
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May 02, 2018, 02:17:51 PM
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Thanks for your opinions.
So, we'll see the race of ETH, Tezos, EOS, NEO, Cardano, TRON, etc.
Let's get popcorn and watch how it'll goes on.  Wink

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May 02, 2018, 02:30:49 PM
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Thanks for your opinions.
So, we'll see the race of ETH, Tezos, EOS, NEO, Cardano, TRON, etc.
Let's get popcorn and watch how it'll goes on.  Wink

and Aeternity

and dont forget WAVES too  Cheesy

i'm invested in XTZ too and i hope that this project will start this year and grow slowly  Wink

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May 03, 2018, 02:57:41 AM
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Thanks for your opinions.
So, we'll see the race of ETH, Tezos, EOS, NEO, Cardano, TRON, etc.
Let's get popcorn and watch how it'll goes on.  Wink

and Aeternity

and dont forget WAVES too  Cheesy

i'm invested in XTZ too and i hope that this project will start this year and grow slowly  Wink

Yes, the public blockchains attract a lot of investment attentions. And the total price performance, such as ETH, EOS, AE etc, are so good recently.
We can predict a bright future if XTZ has its production released.
Let's see.
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May 03, 2018, 12:08:25 PM
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I did once bought some dump coins when I first started investing and I learned from it the hard way. Now I am more cautious when planning to invest.
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May 03, 2018, 12:28:29 PM
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Thank you for your opinions.

Many new projects are mentioned as I see.
I created a new topic for voting:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3507342.0

Let's vote.  Wink
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May 04, 2018, 12:45:36 AM
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The word "tezzies" should go.
Nobody likes it, including Arthur. It sucks and the official name for the xtz token should just be "tezos." Let the users call it what they want, "tez" "tezzie" or "xtz" or whatever, but for God's sake get the word "tezzie" off both the foundation's and Tezos' websites. The time to do this is now, before launch. Branding is important.

NO  I CALL IT WHAT I LIKE  Wink  And i like tezzies  Cheesy always good to keep your balls safe Cheesy

Now everyone knows it's TEZOS you doughnut ..Like money how many names ? Wink
So take a chill pill MR SNOOTY PANTS Roll Eyes

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I LIKE TEZZIES  if i am in a business meeting talking about TEZOS i would say TEZOS..

If i am playing pool and pay for something i am paying with TEZZIES..

Now go and jump on this below you SNOOTY FUCKER..CHILL OUT MAN.. Wink

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May 04, 2018, 12:47:40 AM
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The word "tezzies" should go.
Nobody likes it, including Arthur < TOUGH  tezzies belongs to everyone not ARTHUR  Wink

People did donate for him to work for us lets not forget this Wink Or if he never then no bonus to DLS Wink..

And by the way it wasn't my idea ..
I seen someone say the word TEZOS was bad  and they said what will you call loads of tezos TEZZIES
meaning your balls  Cheesy Cheesy..

I thought PERFECT  Cheesy Cheesy..Not a snoot you see ..

OH OH OH TEZZZZ OSSSS < Some sound so snooty when they say the word TEZOS  Cheesy
The YANKS mainly ..

Now where is my 50K TEZZIES? < Donation for the greatest ideas the world has ever seen and easy done..If a coder ..

Some like tezos some like tezzies   WHO CARES ? ..

Going to see the QUEEN call it TEZOS ..
going to see SNOOP DOG it's TEZZIES    OK jeez leave my TEZZIES ALONE..

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May 04, 2018, 01:05:27 AM
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I worshiped angus    let there be light sound  drums guitar let there be rock ..

bon scot smashed brian ..

Went to see blow up your video many years ago in Birmingham and they give us all a cut out guitar  Cheesy

Imagine how good they would of been with bon  Cry..
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May 04, 2018, 01:47:23 AM
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Some things that should be cleared up about TEZOS Roll Eyes Cheesy

What will happen will TEZOS be like it's own ERC20 token and people who build things will ask for ICO ?

OR will it be people paying with TEZZIES to use the DAPPS and APPS and the ecosystem ?..

Now if ICO then problems with SEC when ever someone tries to do an ICO to use the TEZOS protocol ..
So how will it be ?..

You know how RIPPLE WORKED ?

The whole idea with Ripple was so people got bored using other coins and moneys and just ended up using XRP ..
but THEY said it was to swap for other currencies at low cost     NO the whole idea in the end was so you get bored swapping for xrp to swap for other types of monies   you would just forget the rest and use XRP  ..Ask CHRIS LARSON  founder of ripple labs ..Now he is gone i don't know where i don't use XRP anymore ..Good token to own ..

Now if people use the TEZOS platform will they make their own token up so you have to use their native token on the TEZOS platform or will tezos be used only ? ..

Imagine having to pay £10 worth of tezos to store something on the TEZOS platform it will be more used and in demand ..
Or will someone make their own named token ask for ICO then use the TEZOS platform   because that means the SEC will be all over everyone's ICO
in the TEZOS ecosystem ..

Then some will loose their TEZZIES for breaking the LAW ..Maybe we will all loose our tezzies for someone else breaking the law..

So can someone clear this up   Because how many ETH  ICO ERC20  token scams?..

Will TEZOS go down this line ?..

I would hope they just use TEZOS only.. Undecided
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May 04, 2018, 02:22:02 AM
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Five reasons Tezos will dominate
May 3, 2018 -  Editorial
Tezos Will Dominate 2018: Here’s Five Reasons Why
Unlike practically every alt-coin that has been released in the past two years, Tezos has the potential to change the crypto space and unseat some of the current top dogs. The problems of 2017 are long gone, and 2018 is the year Tezos is unleashed on the world. Based on the technology alone coupled with a dedicated foundation sitting on $1 billion in assets, Tezos will be a name that everyone in the crypto space knows by the end of this year.

1. Technology
The technology used to develop Tezos is geared toward security, efficiency, and safety. When you’re dealing with millions and billions of people’s money, you can’t be too cautious. Tezos is and entirely new blockchain written in OCaml, which is an industrial software language far safer than C++ or most anything else that some of the major chains are written in. OCaml is not widely used, yet, but it is gaining adoption as use-cases cross multiple industry lines. Furthermore, the smart contract language of Tezos, called Michelson, is a stack based, strongly typed machine-level industrial language. There is no question that Tezos is built for security and this is one major aspect that sets is apart from Bitcoin or Ethereum. There are other chains attempting to match these specs but so far none have beaten Tezos to the punch.

2. Governance
When a blockchain forks, lots of people get “forked” in the process, so to speak. Sometimes it can result in holding multiple tokens, such as when Bitcoin split into Bitcoin Cash. That’s well and good, but now there are several competing flavors of Bitcoin which further dilutes the emphasis on pushing a blockchain to mass adoption. In fact, lawsuits are cropping up over the use of “Bitcoin” in the name Bitcoin Cash which just demonstrates how much of a cluster fark this can become.

Tezos solves the forking problem with onchain governance and voting. Some people have attacked this model, usually stemming from their own personal interests in trying to discredit Tezos before it launches, but I entirely disagree with their criticism. The debate over onchain governance versus the current system of hard forks and bitter factions is a debate worth having, but Tezos founder Arthur Breitman has decided to buck the prior way of doing things and build-in governance to the protocol.

In Tezos, if a new feature or need arises, the holders of Tezos tokens can vote on how the protocol evolves. The results of the voting are propagated throughout the network. Of course this can’t eliminate all possibilities of a hard fork, but it makes it far less likely since Tezos is not an either/or game, it’s a platform which can be amended and improved without the need to split the chain in half.

3. Delegated Proof-of-Stake (DPoS)
Where to even begin on this? The days of shelling out $25,000 for a crypto mining rig are over. Done. Finished. The days of using endless amounts of electricity to confirm 1 Bitcoin transaction are over. The days of mining cabals and pools controlling the network are over. Tezos does not mine to secure the network, rather, it bakes. Baking is the term used by Tezos to “mine” the blocks and write new transactions on the ledger. I hesitate to even use the term “mine” but most people can understand the equivalence if you’re at all familiar with how most proof-of-work blockchains function, such as Bitcoin or Ethereum.

Tezos offers rewards, similar to mining, for “bakers” on the network who write the ledger and produce new blocks. The best part about this is that you don’t need any crazy hardware, you only need a computer and an internet connection. In fact, you don’t even need the computer, the RaspberryPi platform is enough power to bake on the Tezos network and earn between 5-10% in baking rewards and block signing.

Don’t want to run your own baking computer? No problem! Tezos has you covered by allowing you to delegate your baking rights to a pool and continue earning rewards while someone else deals with the technical side of things. You always retain ownership of your tokens and can change delegates basically at any time. This is monumental because mining coins will be considered ancient technology once Tezos is launched and users understand how big this can be for the crypto space.

4. Tezos Foundation
Not to be overlooked, but the Swiss foundation setup to shepherd Tezos into the long term is sitting on $1 billion in assets. The fundraiser ICO in July of 2017 raised around $232 million, but then the crypto bull market hit and the value of these assets skyrocketed to a staggering amount. Combine this amount of money with an all-star board and you have the recipe for success. Look at the star power which is heading up the Tezos Foundation:

Ryan Jesperson, President of the Tezos Foundation, experience in FinTech and business administration

Lars Haussmann, Head of Corporate Management and Company Administration at Haussmann Treuhand AG. He has extensive experience in corporate management, administration and accounting matters

Michel Mauny, senior researcher at Inria (Paris, France). Father of OCaml programming language

Olaf Carlson-Wee, founder of Polychain, the largest crypto-focused investment manager in the world

Pascal Cléré, (PhD in Mathematics) is Senior Vice-President of Alstom Digital Mobility, a new global organization that regroups all businesses in Digital Mobility

Marylène Micheloud, the first Swiss woman to receive a Master’s degree in Computer Science

Hubertus Thonhauser, Managing Partner of Enabling Future, an early-stage venture capital firm in Dubai

This list is filled with leaders of finance, technology, business and academia. The board is moving forward at record speed to bring Tezos to launch and create the massive ecosystem that will drive adoption and development for the next few decades.

5. Future proof
I know it’s a lot to claim anything in technology is “future proof,” but Tezos is built to evolve over time. Dovetailing with the governance aspects, Tezos is built to adapt to new technologies and adapt to all levels of computer hardware. Imagine as desktops and laptops are used less and less, Tezos can actually run baking software on your phone or tablet, since it’s not mining or using endless processing power. Consider a pool of bakers using mobile devices to earn Tezos and spend Tezos, mass adoption is far more likely with a coin that does not rely on costly mining to procure rewards.

Consider other concepts like “baker in a box,” where the baking software could be loaded on a small device which plugs into the wall, connects to Wifi, and you forget about it. That is the future when it comes to securing the network and providing a widely decentralized system that runs with thousands of supporting nodes using minimal resources.

Conclusion
You can take issue with any of these points, and some discussion is certainly valid. There are plenty of other chains and other technologies, but based on overall judgment, Tezos is unique and stands to break the norms in 2018. In full disclosure I am an original contributor in the 2017 fundraiser so I have a vested interest in Tezos succeeding. I hope you’ll research more and come to the same conclusion that Tezos is a very strong opportunity and a good bet for the future of cryptocurrency.


CONCLUSION ..What will it be used for ?.. My friend bought one of these one Christmas  well his mum did..

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OK now TEZOS is here   WHAT CAN IT DO?  You know will i be able to buy something EXCEPT tezos  HAT Cheesy..?

I will keep asking  and so will the public   what can it do   what will we use it for   have you got any businesses that will use TEZOS and who are they ..

Or are you building a DREAM BUBBLE WAITING TO POP?..

Ok so what will it be used for?..50K DONATION and you will see what TEZOS can be used for ..

I could ask for an ICO with my IDEAS and make well more..OH and pay coders to do it just like TEZOS done..

I find it very funny when you do the same as TEZOS by asking for a donation they don't like it BUT they was fast enough asking the public for a DONATION to make themselves rich all for a governance idea ..So i ask the same as what you asked for a DONATION for good ideas ..

Only fair 50K donation .. Cheesy ..You can get games from young coders or you can get great ideas for businesses from someone who as worked in many industries ..?

You get rich off my idea   ?  No i get rich and so do you Wink  At least enough to make me and my family happy..That's what it's all about..

I give you ideas you build them and you release and they will flock to TEZOS in the masses ..

Also will Tezos be able to handle millions of transactions a second?  My idea needs millions of transactions a second ..
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May 04, 2018, 02:23:41 AM
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Steve jobs never made apple he had the vision   his buddy was the computer dude steve jobs was the LSD dude ..

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May 04, 2018, 06:50:16 AM
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It 's time for me to go out to the market now for TEZOS. I'm not tired of waiting, but I want to know how to improve.
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May 04, 2018, 06:59:07 AM
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What's the updates and when main net?
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May 04, 2018, 10:00:19 AM
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The waiting for Tezzies is really next level. I'm wondering if any ICO will even beat the (unannounced) waiting time and delays. Possible massive sellout when this one hits the Exchanges.
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May 05, 2018, 08:32:25 AM
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youtube.com/watch?...

Much better  less code talk and more about what the functions of the code does  Wink..


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I'd like to fire back at your pessimism, but then i realize, through rational lenses, that you're right about this.

There's a difference between a start up where the founder has put his sweat into getting it where it is, to a ccompany that hires competent people to execute on a business plan. So far, Tezos has been slow at putting the right pieces together to execute. I hope this is due to the fact that we are still in the launching phase. Once it launches, this type of marketing is unacceptable. That's why companies have PR people and marketing people and spokespeople. They may not need it when they're a bunch of programmers stuck in a small room for months developing, but when you raise over 230 million and want to dominate this market, you better start looking at executing the plan.

Hence why I like how EOS is handling it. Apart from misinformation about them, they are sharp, follow through with their plans and execute really well. I have invested heavily into EOS, but more so in Tezos.




this type of marketing is unacceptable. <<The video is not marketing it's Arthur explaining what the Tezos code does ...

Normally stack this and compile that blah blah blah ..So now he explained in our lingo what the code does ..Not marketing in the video just talking about how TEZOS works..



Hence why I like how EOS is handling it. < Like this below?

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3 Apr 2018 - Two founders of a cryptocurrency firm that was endorsed by champion boxer Floyd Mayweather have been charged with carrying out a fraudulent initial coin offering (ICO) by the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC). The company in question is called Centra and it raised $32 million via an ICO.


EOS  1 WORD   SLEX very good at adverts  Cheesy Kiss..

The biggest advertisement is being on exchanges because when people see a new token they investigate it to see if they can latch on to it OR ignore it ..
They will do the home work on this new token that's just popped up on the exchanges so more people will see it than going around places wasting monies ..

Arthur needs to go plus people who understand the code and how it works BUT no good other people
going UNLESS they got a business idea they want to use the code for..

Then they explain their business plans to use TEZOS ..

But paying famous people to con people is EASY as EOS knows   cough SLEX..

I be back after  ..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5mtclwloEQ

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May 05, 2018, 10:06:27 AM
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The devs should answer all of your support's question
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May 05, 2018, 10:25:06 AM
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What's the updates and when main net?

Test net is expected in Q2 and Main net is expected in Q3. Better remember that the daes are just their estimations which was postponed before.
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May 05, 2018, 11:47:27 AM
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we have comparable project in tezos, which also uses low profile approach, despite having few hundred $M for marketing and funding
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May 05, 2018, 03:13:40 PM
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The technology of the Tezos project can be said to be one of the best, but it is much lower than the fame of ETH and EOS.
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