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[HanvanBitcoin]

As I see it - whales do money if it is dipping, and if it is going up

There is no exchange with my fiat that I could win in daytrade.


I bought btc back but I see it will dip for sure - but at my exchanges there is so low volume and bot manipulation that even If i sell and buy back at night when it will be low - still I wont be +

And no one here have shown me any good reason/evidence that Hodling = winning

If you holdl from january 2013, you make about a 1000x in 5 years.

This is a good reason/evidence.

So you want to say that Bitcoin will never drop? Please in whole history of stock - find me company or anything that never ever dropped? Please


Sorry but I am not rich - no one gave me anything. Right now I will try on 0.175btc and HODL not looking on the price. If it goes up for uptrend I buy more. If it goes down - oh well that wasn't so much.

If i put my savings into a bankaccount im 100% sure it will be worth less next year.

Investing my savings into BTCitcoin brought me way more then i could have ever hoped for. I dont trust banks with their government issued money with my savings. I believe in decentralised limited supply. Thats why i invest in bitcoin.

I pay with fiat, save in BTCitcoin. HODL 4 life.

[realr0ach]

https://twitter.com/saifedean/status/954931333087637505
in which fluffypony rekts saifedean

All of these people saying "you must use only bitcoin and everything else is a scam" is nonsense because it's INHERENTLY a pro-usury stance where you're claiming the entire world must agree to be exploited for the highest fees possible without them doing the obvious free market choice of just using something else.  I thought bitcoin was supposed to be anti-usury banker?  wtf?  It's like people already know bitcoin dies without scaling to a huge amount so they're trying to strong arm people into propping up their investment LOL.

[mindrust]

If i put my savings into a bankaccount im 100% sure it will be worth less next year.

Investing my savings into BTCitcoin brought me way more then i could have ever hoped for. I dont trust banks with their government issued money with my savings. I believe in decentralised limited supply. Thats why i invest in bitcoin.

I pay with fiat, save in BTCitcoin. HODL 4 life.

Actually that's the main reason I hold bitcoin right now. Not because I expect to become rich one day. (Well, tbh, I expect this too who doesn't?)

I don't trust banks. I got some of my money in a bank collecting interest profits but I still don't trust them. Sending/Withdrawing/Depositing, everything needs paper work with the banks. I don't need to deal with banks anymore when I do stuff with bitcoin. I can carry it around with me, I can send it to somebody, whatever. I don't need permission from anybody.

And right now bitcoin has the most active dev team and community so that's why I hold btc's but not some other random shit coin.

I have some of my wealth away from banks' touch and that makes me happy.

[Neo_Coin]

[realr0ach]

OK guys, I know a lot of you are buying the marijuana with these bitcoin things, but think again:

http://dailystormer.red/psa-for-teenagers-regarding-the-green-menace-and-your-future/

[drbrockcoin]

As I see it - whales do money if it is dipping, and if it is going up

There is no exchange with my fiat that I could win in daytrade.


I bought btc back but I see it will dip for sure - but at my exchanges there is so low volume and bot manipulation that even If i sell and buy back at night when it will be low - still I wont be +

And no one here have shown me any good reason/evidence that Hodling = winning

Only a part of my hodling bought me the house that i live in 

You boght it cheap - now it is not cheap. Blockchain is future - I know that - btc is not. It is like with websites. Dotcom or whatever it was called.



But lets speak normally without crap/fear/fud


Is it not possible that Etherum can overtake bitcoin and if it does - btc will drop to 1k? Is it not possible?

JESUS CHRIST - give it a rest man. Your an idiot. Let me guess BITCOIN IS DEAD again?

FUCK OFF

[realr0ach]

JESUS CHRIST

The politics of Stza (leftover crack) are so bad it's absurd.  It's like a white guy that accidentally got drunk and stumbled into a marxist cult run by Jews and black panthers.  I guess that would describe EVERYONE who lives in NYC, though.

[sirazimuth]

I didnt have those forks because I didnt own bitcoin then noob

But I had bitcoin on binance while it...<snip......blah blah blah annoying noob nonsense... >I will go in hard.

Well now, I  think I have my 1st ignore ever...

[drbrockcoin]

JESUS CHRIST

The politics of Stza (leftover crack) are so bad it's absurd.  It's like a white guy that accidentally got drunk and stumbled into a marxist cult run by Jews and black panthers.  I guess that would describe EVERYONE who lives in NYC, though.

LOC is very Anti-US Empire therefor if you completely disagree with that sentiment then you are PRO-US Empire.

If thats the case there is absolutely no point in conversing with you

SORRY

EDIT : I will give credit that you even know who Leftover Crack are

[thrax]

As I see it - whales do money if it is dipping, and if it is going up

There is no exchange with my fiat that I could win in daytrade.


I bought btc back but I see it will dip for sure - but at my exchanges there is so low volume and bot manipulation that even If i sell and buy back at night when it will be low - still I wont be +

And no one here have shown me any good reason/evidence that Hodling = winning

Only a part of my hodling bought me the house that i live in  

You boght it cheap - now it is not cheap. Blockchain is future - I know that - btc is not. It is like with websites. Dotcom or whatever it was called.



But lets speak normally without crap/fear/fud


Is it not possible that Etherum can overtake bitcoin and if it does - btc will drop to 1k? Is it not possible?

JESUS CHRIST - give it a rest man. Your an idiot. Let me guess BITCOIN IS DEAD again?

FUCK OFF

I don't think ethereum can overtake bitcoin because...

[d_eddie]

Back to sub 12k. What an aimless weekend.

[thrax]

Back to sub 12k. What an aimless weekend.

We went up by $2000 then down by $1000 this weekend. More up than down is good.

[rafanadal]

I could easily see this go below 10k again

[conspirosphere.tk]

All of these people saying "you must use only bitcoin and everything else is a scam" is nonsense because it's INHERENTLY a pro-usury stance where you're claiming the entire world must agree to be exploited for the highest fees possible without them doing the obvious free market choice of just using something else.  I thought bitcoin was supposed to be anti-usury banker?  wtf?  It's like people already know bitcoin dies without scaling to a huge amount so they're trying to strong arm people into propping up their investment LOL.

Would you plz go check on the dictionary what usury means?
Then maybe you could stop talking nonsense.

[realr0ach]

JESUS CHRIST

The politics of Stza (leftover crack) are so bad it's absurd.  It's like a white guy that accidentally got drunk and stumbled into a marxist cult run by Jews and black panthers.  I guess that would describe EVERYONE who lives in NYC, though.

LOC is very Anti-US Empire therefor if you completely disagree with that sentiment then you are PRO-US Empire.

If thats the case there is absolutely no point in conversing with you

SORRY

EDIT : I will give credit that you even know who Leftover Crack are

Stza was basically an ANTIFA cultural marxist before ANTIFA even existed.  Forced association has no basis in reality.  It just causes confrontation and destruction.

Diversity doesn't = strength

Diversity = weakness

[realr0ach]

All of these people saying "you must use only bitcoin and everything else is a scam" is nonsense because it's INHERENTLY a pro-usury stance where you're claiming the entire world must agree to be exploited for the highest fees possible without them doing the obvious free market choice of just using something else.  I thought bitcoin was supposed to be anti-usury banker?  wtf?  It's like people already know bitcoin dies without scaling to a huge amount so they're trying to strong arm people into propping up their investment LOL.

Would you plz go check on the dictionary what usury means?
Then maybe you could stop talking nonsense.

The definition was changed by the money changers.  It used to mean in Luke Jr bible days just the charging of interest, then they changed it to "unreasonable interest" LOL.  Kind of like saying "rape" vs "unreasonable rape". Usury is a form of slavery and it doesn't matter what the yield you're pulling is.

And don't try to claim bitcoin isn't built on usury.  It has built-in, usurious middlemen that demand a cut of every transaction.  The only way to remove the usury factor is for everyone to process their own transactions with unprofitable PoW - email PoW style.  IOTA was the only real try at something like that, but as I've stated already, it's not possible to form consensus in a DAG without artificial convergence, so it's a failure.  

It's not actually possible to create a decentralized digital currency.  You are all wasting your time.  It is only possible to build usury schemes that centralize transaction validators through economy of scale, and those then turn into federated chains/permissioned ledgers by default.  

[sirazimuth]

OK guys, I know a lot of you are buying the marijuana with these bitcoin things, but think again:

http://dailystormer.red/psa-for-teenagers-regarding-the-green-menace-and-your-future/

Daily Stormer huh? Why am I not surprised?
thanx for the laugh, guvnor.
Still waiting on your WTC Jewish conspiracy theory nonsense tho....
that will be comedy gold

[fabiorem]

The definition was changed by the money changers.  It used to mean in Luke Jr bible days just the charging of interest, then they changed it to "unreasonable interest" LOL.  Kind of like saying "rape" vs "unreasonable rape".  Usury is a form of slavery and it doesn't matter what the yield you're pulling is.

Usury is to lend money with interest. The current banking system was born from it.

Bitcoin, on the contrary, was born from resentment against the banking system, during the 2008-2009 crisis.

Bitcoin still dont have a lending system. So we cant classify it as a usury system, unless your /pol/ dictionary have changed its meaning. But by then, we would be speaking different languages, I guess.

[mike4001]

Back at USD 11.360 (Bitcoinaverage)

Yesterday we touched 13k for a moment and immediately went down to 11k again.

Crap :-/

[OWZ1337]

As I see it - whales do money if it is dipping, and if it is going up

There is no exchange with my fiat that I could win in daytrade.


I bought btc back but I see it will dip for sure - but at my exchanges there is so low volume and bot manipulation that even If i sell and buy back at night when it will be low - still I wont be +

And no one here have shown me any good reason/evidence that Hodling = winning

If you holdl from january 2013, you make about a 1000x in 5 years.

This is a good reason/evidence.

So you want to say that Bitcoin will never drop? Please in whole history of stock - find me company or anything that never ever dropped? Please


Sorry but I am not rich - no one gave me anything. Right now I will try on 0.175btc and HODL not looking on the price. If it goes up for uptrend I buy more. If it goes down - oh well that wasn't so much.

If i put my savings into a bankaccount im 100% sure it will be worth less next year.

Investing my savings into BTCitcoin brought me way more then i could have ever hoped for. I dont trust banks with their government issued money with my savings. I believe in decentralised limited supply. Thats why i invest in bitcoin.

I pay with fiat, save in BTCitcoin. HODL 4 life.

^In God Weee Trust ~bitcoin has unlimited supply right now my friend.