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January 23, 2018, 05:03:50 PM

The funny thing is, I think even the whales learned something back in Dec. when they all tried to 'cash out' huge sums all at once.

They found that they couldn't. And couldn't do it cheaply. Hence the massive mempool backlog that we had.  Grin
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January 23, 2018, 05:08:26 PM

So what do you think, guys ? Sell my next block @ $11.5k or hold out for $12.5k (likely within 24 hours...)
My balls aren't made of crystal, dude.

(You're my role model here - is this reply Lawblawish enough?)
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January 23, 2018, 05:11:41 PM

11k broken. First sign of life or a passing illusion?

BTC dips (again) below 10k$...10min later...100M$ Tether printed...price rices unnaturally by ~10% within minutes...can't explain that

Don't you think that the South Korean government announcing it won't close the Korean bitcoin exchanges might have something to do with it? The price crashed when the South Korean government announced it was considering closing the Korean exchanges. Is it just coincidence the price is going up after it announced its changed its mind?

This is critical too. In a weeks time, new non-anonymous Bitcoin accounts with banking will be allowed. Tether isn't the only thing going on.

South Korea was never banning Bitcoin, only getting rid of the anonymity.

I have a feeling that, after this Friday, with CME shorts closed (and perhaps whales pumping BTC to prepare for another short), and the South Korean regulations clarified, that the BTC price will finally lift off for real.

That would be consistent with the historical charts, at least.
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January 23, 2018, 05:16:27 PM

For me, more two months of big dumps
After the storm, we will see big big pumps
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January 23, 2018, 05:18:49 PM

So what do you think, guys ? Sell my next block @ $11.5k or hold out for $12.5k (likely within 24 hours...)



You're awful needy for a top.

And we get it with the mill or two already. Meh.
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January 23, 2018, 05:19:38 PM

Is the current rise due to the double bottom?
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January 23, 2018, 05:24:54 PM

Is the current rise due to the double bottom?

You said double bottom

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January 23, 2018, 05:27:00 PM

Is the current rise due to the double bottom?

You said double bottom



lol..
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January 23, 2018, 05:30:48 PM

Is the current rise due to the double bottom?

You said double bottom



lol..

I mean the Bitfinex Spoofer.
Caution.
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January 23, 2018, 05:38:10 PM

I'll try the homespun solution, install docker and all.
I'd be interested in your Internet bandwidth consumption, should you be wiling to share.
I will post some data, but don't hold your breath. I'll need some free time to install the thing - starting with Docker - and some more to figure out how to measure LN's bandwitdh tax unbundled from bitcoind's base requirements. Got any suggestions?

I dunno.... filter a wireshark dump of all port 8333 traffic? Wild speculation. I don't know how LN comms are routed within the host networking layer.

I was hoping not to have to install special instrumentation like wireshark. Well, when I get to that I'll do what I have to.
BTW, 8333 is for bitcoind. LN uses a different port (can't recall right now).
No need to install any additional package. You can utilize iptables as shown there: https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/398176
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January 23, 2018, 05:39:04 PM

Offtopic:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2559585
I really miss my original account. ^^^
Somehow the guy managed to change the email address, the reset emails don't come to me..
I do have an post on the forum where BTC was transferred to my wallet.  But it was an exchange wallet. No private keys to prove ownership. I gave up trying to get it back.
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January 23, 2018, 05:45:16 PM

So what do you think, guys ? Sell my next block @ $11.5k or hold out for $12.5k (likely within 24 hours...)

If it keeps dropping (maybe 30% chances IMO) 8K looks like a decent bottom and many advise to buy at that level, so it should hold. So downside potential is relatively small.

On the other hand, the bottom could be here or very near when the next futures thing expires in the next days, and then the price pump again (which is my bet).

In the meanwhile, to calm my urge to do something I let my bot playing with a couple of coins. Have a look at leonArdo: its new Bollinger band strategy looks cool.
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January 23, 2018, 05:46:57 PM


Why do they even bother? Over the past 8 years and many rallies, no one has bought or sold bitcoin based on what GS thinks.
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January 23, 2018, 05:50:00 PM

Nanos gigantum humeris insidentes.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/23/one-person-caused-bitcoin-to-spike-from-150-to-1000-in-2013.html


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In 2013, bitcoin was worth just $150 when suddenly, the price spiked.

Within two months, one bitcoin was worth $1,000. Four researchers from the Tandy School of Computer Science at The University of Tulsa and the Berglas School of Economics at Tel Aviv University now believe that this spike was caused by one individual person.

In a paper titled "Price Manipulation in the Bitcoin Ecosystem," published in the Journal of Monetary Economics, Neil Gandal, JT Hamrick, Tyler Moore and Tali Oberman describe the ways in which suspicious activity on the Mt. Gox bitcoin currency exchange impacted the value of the cryptocurrency in 2013.

As reported by TechCrunch, their research calls attention to the potential risk of price manipulation and fraud withing cryptocurrencies. "If bitcoin wants to be taken seriously it probably shouldn't be this easy or legal to manipulate the markets," writes John Biggs for the publication.

Unlike traditional currencies, bitcoin does not have a central authority. Instead, cryptography is used to oversee transactions, manage supply and prevent fraud. Gandal et al. analyzed data that had been anonymously dumped in 2014 after allegations that 650,000 bitcoins had been fraudulently taken.

They found that a majority of the price manipulation happened due to two bots with "??" listed as the name of the user country. They named these bots "Markus" and "Willy."

Markus bought and sold bitcoin at seemingly random prices and did not pay transaction fees. Upon further review, they found reason to believe that Markus was not actually paying for the bitcoins he was receiving. Markus acquired a total of 335,898 bitcoins and was active from February 14th, 2013 until September 27th, 2013.

Seven hours after Markus became inactive, Willy appeared as a group of 49 accounts. Each of these Willy accounts would sequentially purchase $2.5 million worth of bitcoin and then become inactive. Over this period, the price of bitcoin spiked.

On days in which this suspicious activity occurred, the USD-BTC exchange rate rose by $20 on average. On the days in which no suspicious activity occurred, the exchange rate saw a slight decline.

By analyzing the identification numbers associated with Willy's account the researchers were able to confirm their suspicion that a single actor was responsible for both bots that, over the course of 2013, had acquired approximately 600,000 bitcoins.

"We conclude that the suspicious trading activity caused the unprecedented spike in the USD-BTC exchange rate in late 2013, when the rate jumped from around $150 to more than $1,000 in two months," they write.
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January 23, 2018, 05:51:15 PM

Good morning Bitcoinland.

I see we're still riding the Bitcoin rollercoaster, down a grand, up a grand... currently $11135US/$13866CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

So much FUD...S.  Korea then India "banning" Bitcoin, the USA IRS "killing" it... and honey badger don't give a shit.

Business as usual.
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January 23, 2018, 05:55:46 PM

You're awful needy for a top.

The fiatcoin to fund the next decade or so isn't going to just magically materialize without me actively watching the Bitcorn markets, and trying to coordinate a snowball rolling on March 1st 2018.

Figured some people would enjoy the bantz.

Tongue my taint, mkay ?


 I have an idea we're going to see 14k again soon (perhaps Jan 27th/28th).  I bet you can get 13.5k with a tad more patience.

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January 23, 2018, 05:58:33 PM


Mempool has been having a good run lately.
https://dedi.jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/#2w
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January 23, 2018, 06:05:38 PM

If they print money to keep the btc price low, then we print tether and buy more bitcoins. Get rekt.

That's what MtGox did.
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January 23, 2018, 06:06:47 PM

Every asset is in a bubble. Ok, PMs are rather stagnant the last 5 years  Grin

I wonder how GS thinks about this ‘everything bubble’ thesis  Roll Eyes
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January 23, 2018, 06:15:55 PM

If they print money to keep the btc price low, then we print tether and buy more bitcoins. Get rekt.

That's what MtGox did.

I think that's not exactly what GoX did. As far as i know there wasn't any tethers around at that time.
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