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January 21, 2018, 12:45:22 PM

If it does to 14k ofc it will - but look at VOLUME + SELL WALLS - no one is buying

Mate, just shut up and short the damn thing. Go get as much money as you can, credit cards, loan sharks, friends, family etc. put it all on an exchange that will allow you to leverage the shit out of it and become an instant billionaire.
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January 21, 2018, 12:47:05 PM

So you do same just put all leverage that BTC will go up, why arent you doing that mate?
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January 21, 2018, 12:49:17 PM

I really thought we can win vs jews from WS - no way.

It's easy to tell what you should be buying.  All you really need to know is, ALL media is Jewish media.  Do you think Harry Dent actually buys all these ads?  HELL NO.  He's a shabbos goyim.  The Comex is forwarding all their contracts to London recently - that's a TECHNICAL DEFAULT.  And how could it not have happened when it's the only asset on earth not in a bubble?  The Jews want to keep people from buying physical silver or gold at all costs:



As you are someone seriously into metals you gave me some sound advice back in 2015 when I was about to buy silver at $16.
You said to wait as it had a couple $ to go, I managed to buy at $14.30 not quite the bottom but near enough.
I am in EU now where buying silver attracts 20% VAT so I am about to buy some gold which is not taxed.
In your opinion is this month a good time to buy also is it better to buy in many smaller units or to go for the cheaper option of one or two large units.
Many thanks.

The commercial shorts nearly always win (aka the ESF), and since they are high right now, it signals they will drop the price a little.  But like I was saying about this FISA thing, the release of this seems VERY orchestrated and might be used as a scapegoat for some type of economic implosion as I was talking about here:

http://steemit.com/news/@r0achtheunsavory/the-r0ach-report-35-the-fisa-memo-is-likely-the-scapegoat-to-blow-up-the-economy

One of the goals of these people in entities like the ESF is to "disconnect cause and effect", which is why they made sure to implode gold during the 2008 crash when it obviously shouldn't have.  Some claim people had to liquidate their ETF & Comex contracts to cover other investments, but that's complete bullshit why the price went where it did.  Anyway, if my FISA theory is correct, they will probably attempt to do the exact same thing they did during 2008, then metals skyrocket after the dip IF they manage to force it down.  Maybe it wont dip at all this time before going up, who knows.  Supply seems too tight for them to force it low to me, unlike in 2008.  It's always possible it could be the one time where the ESF shorts get screwed and it skyrockets

If nothing comes out of this FISA stuff, that $900 platinum bottom is a REALLY REALLY hard floor, so they will have an enormously hard time screwing with metals too much.  And getting silver below $16 for any extended period of time is also too hard for them.  They could drop gold to as low as $1050 or so, but that's about it.  The downside potential on all this stuff is really small without a deflationary event that would wipe out every bank in America anyway.

As for what units, Canadian maple leafs and 10 oz Sunshine mint bars are the best deals lately for silver, and I prefer 1 oz gold buffalos for gold.
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January 21, 2018, 12:51:50 PM

So you do same just put all leverage that BTC will go up, why arent you doing that mate?

I've been in this game early enough to not ever having to worry about that shit. What's more I don't need money for frivolous shit, if you want money, that's ok. I believe in bitcoin and I want it to succeed, the money is nice, but, I'll ride this bitch to zero. Why? because I believe in the bitcoin revolution, not that it is only more than 10 times the level it was a year ago instead of it being 100 times.


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January 21, 2018, 12:53:03 PM

If it does to 14k ofc it will - but look at VOLUME + SELL WALLS - no one is buying

Mate, just shut up and short the damn thing. Go get as much money as you can, credit cards, loan sharks, friends, family etc. put it all on an exchange that will allow you to leverage the shit out of it and become an instant billionaire.

Reminds me of that Dutch guy who sold his home, car and all of his property to invest into BTC and now lives in a camper (will live there until 2020 to maximize gains).  Smiley
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January 21, 2018, 12:53:21 PM

As I see it - whales do money if it is dipping, and if it is going up Embarrassed

There is no exchange with my fiat that I could win in daytrade.


I bought btc back but I see it will dip for sure - but at my exchanges there is so low volume and bot manipulation that even If i sell and buy back at night when it will be low - still I wont be +

And no one here have shown me any good reason/evidence that Hodling = winning
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January 21, 2018, 12:54:30 PM

At the best point I had 0.9btc
Now 0.725btc. I sold all - will be just staying with around 0.25btc. I made in few months (from 11.17 do 12.17) 11k$ - now I lost 1.5k$

Oh shit, niggas ! Look out ! We got a whale here !!! How even will the markets react to this terrible news ??!?


Oh its a damn tragedy that's for sure, muadib is leaving, I just can't believe it. Bitcoin is dead man, it's dead.
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Last edit: January 21, 2018, 01:08:01 PM by LFC_Bitcoin

At the best point I had 0.9btc
Now 0.725btc. I sold all - will be just staying with around 0.25btc. I made in few months (from 11.17 do 12.17) 11k$ - now I lost 1.5k$

Oh shit, niggas ! Look out ! We got a whale here !!! How even will the markets react to this terrible news ??!?


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January 21, 2018, 12:56:17 PM

And no one here have shown me any good reason/evidence that Hodling = winning

No, all those poor people who have held since 2011 have lost everything right. Complete losers the lot of them.
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January 21, 2018, 12:58:02 PM

I really thought we can win vs jews from WS - no way.

It's easy to tell what you should be buying.  All you really need to know is, ALL media is Jewish media.  Do you think Harry Dent actually buys all these ads?  HELL NO.  He's a shabbos goyim.  The Comex is forwarding all their contracts to London recently - that's a TECHNICAL DEFAULT.  And how could it not have happened when it's the only asset on earth not in a bubble?  The Jews want to keep people from buying physical silver or gold at all costs:



As you are someone seriously into metals you gave me some sound advice back in 2015 when I was about to buy silver at $16.
You said to wait as it had a couple $ to go, I managed to buy at $14.30 not quite the bottom but near enough.
I am in EU now where buying silver attracts 20% VAT so I am about to buy some gold which is not taxed.
In your opinion is this month a good time to buy also is it better to buy in many smaller units or to go for the cheaper option of one or two large units.
Many thanks.

The commercial shorts nearly always win (aka the ESF), and since they are high right now, it signals they will drop the price a little.  But like I was saying about this FISA thing, the release of this seems VERY orchestrated and might be used as a scapegoat for some type of economic implosion as I was talking about here:

http://steemit.com/news/@r0achtheunsavory/the-r0ach-report-35-the-fisa-memo-is-likely-the-scapegoat-to-blow-up-the-economy

One of the goals of these people in entities like the ESF is to "disconnect cause and effect", which is why they made sure to implode gold during the 2008 crash when it obviously shouldn't have.  Some claim people had to liquidate their ETF & Comex contracts to cover other investments, but that's complete bullshit why the price went where it did.  Anyway, if my FISA theory is correct, they will probably attempt to do the exact same thing they did during 2008, then metals skyrocket after the dip IF they manage to force it down.  Maybe it wont dip at all this time before going up, who knows.  Supply seems too tight for them to force it low to me, unlike in 2008.  It's always possible it could be the one time where the ESF shorts get screwed and it skyrockets

If nothing comes out of this FISA stuff, that $900 platinum bottom is a REALLY REALLY hard floor, so they will have an enormously hard time screwing with metals too much.  And getting silver below $16 for any extended period of time is also too hard for them.  They could drop gold to as low as $1050 or so, but that's about it.  The downside potential on all this stuff is really small without a deflationary event that would wipe out every bank in America anyway.

Thankyou for you much valued answer to my post.
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January 21, 2018, 12:58:53 PM

At the best point I had 0.9btc
Now 0.725btc. I sold all - will be just staying with around 0.25btc. I made in few months (from 11.17 do 12.17) 11k$ - now I lost 1.5k$

Oh shit, niggas ! Look out ! We got a whale here !!! How even will the markets react to this terrible news ??!?


Oh its a damn tragedy that's for sure, muadib is leaving, I just can't believe it. Bitcoin is dead man, it's dead.
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January 21, 2018, 01:02:01 PM

As I see it - whales do money if it is dipping, and if it is going up Embarrassed

There is no exchange with my fiat that I could win in daytrade.


I bought btc back but I see it will dip for sure - but at my exchanges there is so low volume and bot manipulation that even If i sell and buy back at night when it will be low - still I wont be +

And no one here have shown me any good reason/evidence that Hodling = winning

Only a part of my hodling bought me the house that i live in  Roll Eyes
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January 21, 2018, 01:06:02 PM

the best thing is that - no one provided anything to make me buy bitcoin and Hodl - man you are weak Cheesy


Now I know why it dips hard  Grin


Even if it will go to the moon - you u all lose because you will always think it will go higher - there is no stop for ya all - and some day as everything it will be gone.

Going out early is better than not going out ever

Maybe for people that earn loads of money monthly - its easy to hodl -  because they give a fuck about it anyway. Thats probably my problem here Undecided
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January 21, 2018, 01:07:33 PM

https://twitter.com/saifedean/status/954931333087637505
in which fluffypony rekts saifedean
i swear it's the carnivore thing makes them so dull-witted
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January 21, 2018, 01:08:13 PM

HODLing since 2011. Let's just say: I don't regret it.  Wink
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January 21, 2018, 01:09:00 PM

Also holding since 2016.

The amount was not significant at that time. I thought even if lose this who cares. Money got bigger and bigger. Forks happened and my btc number got bigger too (for free) And now that amount is as big as to make a difference. Not enough to retire me yet but still i feel good to have it around.

HODLing is maybe not the most profitable option you got but it is the safest indeed. I quit trading after gox thing and almost never ever had btc's on the exchanges since then. That was the main reason I stopped trading and dumped my coins. I started to collect in 2016 again and it paid off.

I now sadly wish that I haven't dumped my other coins for pennies but past is past. We are still in early phase and there isn't enough bitcoins for everybody!
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January 21, 2018, 01:10:05 PM

As I see it - whales do money if it is dipping, and if it is going up Embarrassed

There is no exchange with my fiat that I could win in daytrade.


I bought btc back but I see it will dip for sure - but at my exchanges there is so low volume and bot manipulation that even If i sell and buy back at night when it will be low - still I wont be +

And no one here have shown me any good reason/evidence that Hodling = winning

Only a part of my hodling bought me the house that i live in  Roll Eyes



You boght it cheap - now it is not cheap. Blockchain is future - I know that - btc is not. It is like with websites. Dotcom or whatever it was called.



But lets speak normally without crap/fear/fud


Is it not possible that Etherum can overtake bitcoin and if it does - btc will drop to 1k? Is it not possible?
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January 21, 2018, 01:11:43 PM

As I see it - whales do money if it is dipping, and if it is going up Embarrassed

There is no exchange with my fiat that I could win in daytrade.


I bought btc back but I see it will dip for sure - but at my exchanges there is so low volume and bot manipulation that even If i sell and buy back at night when it will be low - still I wont be +

And no one here have shown me any good reason/evidence that Hodling = winning

If you holdl from january 2013, you make about a 1000x in 5 years.

This is a good reason/evidence.
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January 21, 2018, 01:12:17 PM

Also holding since 2016.

The amount was not significant at that time. I thought even if lose this who cares. Money got bigger and bigger. Forks happened and my btc number got bigger too (for free) And now that amount is as big as to make a difference. Not enough to make retire me yet but still i feel good to have it around.

HODLing is maybe not the most profitable option you got but it is the safest indeed. I quit trading after gox thing and almost never ever had btc's on the exchanges since then. That was the main reason I stopped trading and dumped my coins. I started to collect in 2016 again and it paid off.

I now sadly wish that I haven't dumped my other coins for pennies but past is past. We are still in early phase and there isn't enough bitcoins for everybody!



Forks? I don't know - I was told I will get so many forked BTC - got 0 !! - had all my btc on Binance at the time of forks - binance wrote that they will give forked btc - still 0 there.


Last fork - Bitcoin GOD - and where it is? Nowhere
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January 21, 2018, 01:17:42 PM

In case you guys thought I was bullshitting that Lightning Network is a fugazi, some other guy recently made a post about it too:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2792933.0

Jihan Wu wasn't lying when he said segwit/LN overhypes it's benefits and underhypes it's problems.  It's definitely not something that would allow bitcoin to become the world reserve currency like some people make believe.  I listed my problems with it lower in that thread as well.
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