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February 17, 2018, 05:47:17 PM

My basic life thesis is that humans are not biologically and psychologically designed to work nearly as much as we do.

https://youtu.be/PWU9g1Fce3U?t=1m14s
You deserve your 50 merits for the game theory link, mister Toxic. I am eternally grateful for it. But this is not an effective jab.
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February 17, 2018, 05:48:05 PM

Good morning Bitcoinland.

It looks like we're winning the battle for 5 digits, albeit barely... currently $10862USD/$13641CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

Hopefully we'll see some real upward movement soon.

What we today call a job is, effectively, slavery. Yes people can choose what kind of work they do, but they can't decide if they want to do it - they have to work.

Jordan Peterson said it perfectly. If you can't say no, you can't negotiate. And if you can't negotiate you are a slave. Jobs are slavery, even if we are determined not to think of them as such.

And it's not like I do nothing but sit around, now that I have the option to do so. I have been studying anthropology for the past... almost 7 years now, and see myself doing it for perhaps the rest of my life. It is endlessly fascinating and there is always more to learn, and it has practical utility. But it is not a job. It is something I choose to do, and for which I receive no direct compensation. And that makes all the difference. I could not do it to the same degree if I was saddled with a Job.

But what if you did receive direct compensation? Would that make it a "job" and thus a form of enslavement?

Mark twain once said that work was what a fellow was obliged to do. I agree. If you are doing it strictly for the money, it's work. If you are doing it for fun it's a hobby, paid or not.

A professional ballplayer may be paid millions of dollars a year but during a game he's playing, not working. Sure there may be lots of work involved.... dealing with agents, travel, workouts, etc., but ultimately it's a paid hobby. Maybe it's not having the option of a day off that makes it a job.

When I was getting paid good money for playing music in bars and living a life of partying, sex, drugs, and rock'n'roll, I never considered it as work. It was fun and I was being paid for it. Sure we had to deal with agents, loading equipment, traveling, and (gasp) rehearsing, but it was still just a paid hobby, not a "job".
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February 17, 2018, 05:52:37 PM

Good morning Bitcoinland.

It looks like we're winning the battle for 5 digits, albeit barely... currently $10862USD/$13641CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

Hopefully we'll see some real upward movement soon.

What we today call a job is, effectively, slavery. Yes people can choose what kind of work they do, but they can't decide if they want to do it - they have to work.

Jordan Peterson said it perfectly. If you can't say no, you can't negotiate. And if you can't negotiate you are a slave. Jobs are slavery, even if we are determined not to think of them as such.

And it's not like I do nothing but sit around, now that I have the option to do so. I have been studying anthropology for the past... almost 7 years now, and see myself doing it for perhaps the rest of my life. It is endlessly fascinating and there is always more to learn, and it has practical utility. But it is not a job. It is something I choose to do, and for which I receive no direct compensation. And that makes all the difference. I could not do it to the same degree if I was saddled with a Job.

But what if you did receive direct compensation? Would that make it a "job" and thus a form of enslavement?

Mark twain once said that work was what a fellow was obliged to do. I agree. If you are doing it strictly for the money, it's work. If you are doing it for fun it's a hobby, paid or not.

A professional ballplayer may be paid millions of dollars a year but during a game he's playing, not working. Sure there may be lots of work involved.... dealing with agents, travel, workouts, etc., but ultimately it's a paid hobby. Maybe it's not having the option of a day off that makes it a job.

When I was getting paid good money for playing music in bars and living a life of partying, sex, drugs, and rock'n'roll, I never considered it as work. It was fun and I was being paid for it. Sure we had to deal with agents, loading equipment, traveling, and (gasp) rehearsing, but it was still just a paid hobby, not a "job".
My old man is an archaelogist, and loved his work. Still does it past retirement. In such a case, life is good or at the least acceptable. But there are no jobs that I like, and so, the conclusion remains. Some people are merely fortunate to be paid for something they would do anyway.
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February 17, 2018, 05:55:58 PM

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February 17, 2018, 06:22:40 PM

What we today call a job is, effectively, slavery. Yes people can choose what kind of work they do, but they can't decide if they want to do it - they have to work.

It's an interesting opinion, although i was lucky to always enjoy my work, even when working 10-12hr a day as a grad student and postdoc.

Maybe, I was lucky to work only on things that i liked and do only things that i liked (so far), it is probably not the typical work experience, though.
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February 17, 2018, 06:24:44 PM

Good morning Bitcoinland.

It looks like we're winning the battle for 5 digits, albeit barely... currently $10862USD/$13641CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

Hopefully we'll see some real upward movement soon.

What we today call a job is, effectively, slavery. Yes people can choose what kind of work they do, but they can't decide if they want to do it - they have to work.

Jordan Peterson said it perfectly. If you can't say no, you can't negotiate. And if you can't negotiate you are a slave. Jobs are slavery, even if we are determined not to think of them as such.

And it's not like I do nothing but sit around, now that I have the option to do so. I have been studying anthropology for the past... almost 7 years now, and see myself doing it for perhaps the rest of my life. It is endlessly fascinating and there is always more to learn, and it has practical utility. But it is not a job. It is something I choose to do, and for which I receive no direct compensation. And that makes all the difference. I could not do it to the same degree if I was saddled with a Job.

But what if you did receive direct compensation? Would that make it a "job" and thus a form of enslavement?

Mark twain once said that work was what a fellow was obliged to do. I agree. If you are doing it strictly for the money, it's work. If you are doing it for fun it's a hobby, paid or not.

A professional ballplayer may be paid millions of dollars a year but during a game he's playing, not working. Sure there may be lots of work involved.... dealing with agents, travel, workouts, etc., but ultimately it's a paid hobby. Maybe it's not having the option of a day off that makes it a job.

When I was getting paid good money for playing music in bars and living a life of partying, sex, drugs, and rock'n'roll, I never considered it as work. It was fun and I was being paid for it. Sure we had to deal with agents, loading equipment, traveling, and (gasp) rehearsing, but it was still just a paid hobby, not a "job".


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What we today call a job is, effectively, slavery. Yes people can choose what kind of work they do, but they can't decide if they want to do it - they have to work.

Jordan Peterson said it perfectly. If you can't say no, you can't negotiate. And if you can't negotiate you are a slave. Jobs are slavery, even if we are determined not to think of them as such.

And it's not like I do nothing but sit around, now that I have the option to do so. I have been studying anthropology for the past... almost 7 years now, and see myself doing it for perhaps the rest of my life. It is endlessly fascinating and there is always more to learn, and it has practical utility. But it is not a job. It is something I choose to do, and for which I receive no direct compensation. And that makes all the difference. I could not do it to the same degree if I was saddled with a Job.

Great point.

I would also add to this another related component, in that if your entire life moving forward relies on your belief that you must have and be in your chosen career forever, and are dependent on greater society to provide the work environment for that job/career to exist (essentially as long as you are alive), then that is also a form of slavery.

I.E., if you can't adjust properly if said career just suddenly vanishes or dies off, or you get laid off due to ageism and can't get back into your career, or your mind or body cannot keep up with the changes in said career, or you hit a wall and burn out, or because you hit the glass ceiling and your career no longer pays for your way of life.... then you are a slave.

When I was in my 20s in the IT field, every IT job that I ever had, I looked around and thought to myself "Why aren't any of my IT colleagues or co-workers over the age of 45 or 50? Or in most cases not even over the age of 35? Am I really going to be able to stay in this field until I retire?"

Now I know why. Everyone that works in a career field should look around and start asking themselves the same question. If you look around at work and all you see is really young people, you might be in trouble long term.
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February 17, 2018, 07:03:50 PM

@NODEfather https://twitter.com/NODEfather/status/963860385336999936
On Friday Feb 9, I was arrested in my home by Department Of Homeland Security over a #Bitcoin transaction from nov 2016 and am released under a personal recognizance bond. I am being charged with:
18 USC 1956 - Money Laundering Instrument

Another bitcoiner arrested for selling a small amt of coin. More details in the thread following that tweet.
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February 17, 2018, 07:06:36 PM

My basic life thesis is that humans are not biologically and psychologically designed to work nearly as much as we do.

https://youtu.be/PWU9g1Fce3U?t=1m14s
You deserve your 50 merits for the game theory link, mister Toxic. I am eternally grateful for it. But this is not an effective jab.

Yea...weak sauce.  Just woke...one cup of coffee...and you going off about eugenics. Give me a few moments to craft a respectable rebuttal would you? 

Your statement seems so counter intuitive at first glance..what to make of it..hmm.

We have spent the last million or so years evolving for the very purpose of physical labor...and you suggest that in less than a few hundred years all that is lost?  The evolutionary path of hunter/gather's predicates periods of inactivity followed by massive bursts of exertion. exempli gratia, The tribe would stalk and chase prey for many miles before cornering, trapping or driving off cliffs. This pattern is found through out the food chain really..only in humans recent history has exertion for pleasure(i.e. exercise)become a thing. You dont see many apex predators besides homo sapien out jogging or doing yoga do you? No, they conserve energy until it is necessary to use. Its different how we go about work today in modern times. Work is toil, not the social interaction it once was.
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@NODEfather https://twitter.com/NODEfather/status/963860385336999936
On Friday Feb 9, I was arrested in my home by Department Of Homeland Security over a #Bitcoin transaction from nov 2016 and am released under a personal recognizance bond. I am being charged with:
18 USC 1956 - Money Laundering Instrument
Another bitcoiner arrested for selling a small amt of coin. More details in the thread following that tweet.

Saw this a couple days ago. Dude dun fucked himself, IMO.

I'm betting he's paid zero tax on whatever it is that he's doing.

EDIT: thefuck ?!

https://twitter.com/NODEfather/status/963931009518456832

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@NODEfather https://twitter.com/NODEfather/status/963860385336999936
On Friday Feb 9, I was arrested in my home by Department Of Homeland Security over a #Bitcoin transaction from nov 2016 and am released under a personal recognizance bond. I am being charged with:
18 USC 1956 - Money Laundering Instrument
Another bitcoiner arrested for selling a small amt of coin. More details in the thread following that tweet.

Saw this a couple days ago. Dude dun fucked himself, IMO.

I'm betting he's paid zero tax on whatever it is that he's doing.

It's possible, although if the DoHS is involved it means that he likely sold bitcoin to some shady people connected with crime or terrorism. Or maybe a sting type operation.
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@NODEfather https://twitter.com/NODEfather/status/963860385336999936
On Friday Feb 9, I was arrested in my home by Department Of Homeland Security over a #Bitcoin transaction from nov 2016 and am released under a personal recognizance bond. I am being charged with:
18 USC 1956 - Money Laundering Instrument
Another bitcoiner arrested for selling a small amt of coin. More details in the thread following that tweet.

Saw this a couple days ago. Dude dun fucked himself, IMO.

I'm betting he's paid zero tax on whatever it is that he's doing.

It's possible, although if the DoHS is involved it means that he likely sold bitcoin to some shady people connected with crime or terrorism. Or maybe a sting type operation.
lawyers tell me it's the government attempt to regulate BTC with a judge instead of Congress

it's got fucking nothing to do with tax and it's got everything to do with there being no rule of law over there
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it's got fucking nothing to do with tax and it's got everything to do with there being no rule of law over there

A sad end to a once great republic.
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February 17, 2018, 07:35:37 PM

it's got fucking nothing to do with tax and it's got everything to do with there being no rule of law over there

A sad end to a once great republic.

What should the republic learn from bitcoin?
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February 17, 2018, 07:37:05 PM

It will be anti-money laundering.  He’s either buying or selling BTC to drug dealers / organized crime.  
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It will be anti-money laundering.  He’s either buying or selling BTC to drug dealers / organized crime.  

AML is the charge. He 's a pretty careful guy, though. Maybe it was a one-off bad trade like that. But he's stating now it's a DoHS play for relevance in the face of btc

@NODEfather 3h3 hours ago https://twitter.com/NODEfather/status/964908384628572160
Everyone asking me about why I was arrested for selling Bitcoin for Cash. Homeland Security came to my home to handcuff me. This is their plan to regulate BTC via legislation from a judge. @Potus has lost control of DHS/ICE. DHS is not needed when BTC wins


https://twitter.com/NODEfather/with_replies worth a read
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February 17, 2018, 07:47:32 PM

Probably how they trapped a guy in Florida a few years ago.  Remember he sold them bitcoin and they told him they were going to buy illegal stuff.. think bomb stuff with it.   Total BS entrapment. 
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February 17, 2018, 07:48:03 PM

It will be anti-money laundering.  He’s either buying or selling BTC to drug dealers / organized crime.  

AML is the charge. He 's a pretty careful guy, though. Maybe it was a one-off bad trade like that. But he's stating now it's a DoHS play for relevance in the face of btc

@NODEfather 3h3 hours ago https://twitter.com/NODEfather/status/964908384628572160
Everyone asking me about why I was arrested for selling Bitcoin for Cash. Homeland Security came to my home to handcuff me. This is their plan to regulate BTC via legislation from a judge. @Potus has lost control of DHS/ICE. DHS is not needed when BTC wins


https://twitter.com/NODEfather/with_replies worth a read

Why are dohs/ice not needed with btc?
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February 17, 2018, 07:51:19 PM

The FBI loves to tout the terrorist attacks they've prevented...After they recruit and indoctrinate a young man, teach him how to make a bomb, supply him with all the parts, order him to use it at a particular place and time. Attack thwarted!

But when someone calls to tip the FBI off on a likely mass shooting...ignored. The Florida school shooting the other day was just one of several recent examples of this.

Perhaps they've devoted so many resources to entrapping people and undermining Trump, they can't do any real work.

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