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[explorer]

...that's assuming that the one in ten figure is correct in the first place (which I wouldn't be surprised by because most people are impulsive twats that don't have zero self-control).

The one in ten figure was for middle class people. They found it could be as high as one in three for working class people, but I can't remember who gathered the statistics.

  My brother's wife's sitster's boyfriend knows a guy in university who claims to be doing a study indicating that NOBODY can be fathered by other than the real FATHER and that number is actually FIVE TIMES greater in Iceland.

  Come on guys at least post some sources for your bullshit.
 

I did somw googling and other studies dispute this, but ...

https://canadiancrc.com/Newspaper_Articles/Globe_and_Mail_Moms_Little_secret_14DEC02.aspx

In the early 1970s, a schoolteacher in southern England assigned a class science project in which his students were to find out the blood types of their parents. The students were then to use this information to deduce their own blood types (because a gene from each parent determines your blood type, in most instances only a certain number of combinations are possible). Instead, 30 per cent of the students discovered their dads were not their biologically fathers.

"The classroom was, of course, not the ideal place to find out this information," said Prof. Dickens, who is often consulted on ethical issues by geneticists at the Hospital for Sick Children.

Also there's the strange, but true story of twins with different biological fathers.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2016/03/09/twins-with-different-fathers_n_9416074.html

 Thanks.  I read the first link and this guys takes the cake.

In March, 1999, the results arrived by mail -- a creased piece of paper telling him that not one of the three boys was his.

"I felt anger toward [my first wife] and sadness, and I felt so sorry for my kids," Mr. Wise recalled. "I told my boys, 'I love you all, you'll always be my sons, the only difference is now I'm not your birth father.' "

Despite this revelation, a district court judge ruled that Mr. Wise had to continue paying child support for the three boys. Based on a 500-year-old common law, most states operate on the presumption that a husband is the father of any child born to his wife during a marriage.

Mr. Wise took his case to the media, hoping to generate political support and contact other men in a similar situation. Instead, he angered the judge, who revoked his visitation rights to the children but left him responsible for $1,100 (U.S.) in monthly support.

"This," Mr. Wise warned, "could happen to anyone."


 Over a 13 year marriage they had three boys and one girl...  I think that guy was working way too much overtime.

If that happened to me, I would just quit the whole family. The kids are not at fault but also not mine, the woman is a whore and a liar and deserves nothing, and jail time is better than continuing to pay her. Take out all the money you can from the bank as soon as possible and hide it somewhere, maybe even throw it away, whatever it takes for her and the state to not get it.

What money? What bank?  SHUM.

[Ibian]

Try to see it from the judges perspective.  There are 4 kids which need to be raised.  That takes money. Let’s assume the wife can’t work because the kids are too little and there’s too many of them.  

The judge’s primary job is to make sure the kids are looked after.  Everyone else can stand in line.

The daughter is his - he has to pay child support for her. The sons, well he says he loves them and has raised them as his own.  But he comes into court waving a piece of paper (which could be forged for all the judge knows) and flapping his gums about how this is his get out of jail free card and now he doesn’t have to pay any money to raise his sons hahahahahaha.  

The judge doesn’t give a fuck about a piece of paper.  He knows that if he orders child support for only the daughter, that’s not enough money and probably all 5 of them (mother, daughter, three sons) will either be homeless or destitute.  So he orders child support for all four kids.

The husband goes on a massive media campaign because MUH RIGHTS.  He kicks up a national fuss. Does the husband give a shit about the kids?  No he doesn’t.  He only cares about MUH RIGHTS.

So the kids are now the center of a national media firestorm.  They are probably getting picked on at school.  So the judge uses the only tool in his toolkit and revokes access, because it’s obvious the hunsbad doesn’t give a fuck about the kids either.

I expect I am wasting my breath in here but there you go.  

Won't somebody think of the men?!

Proper men are perfectly capable of taking care of themselves and others. In your world Ibian it’s the betas or rabbits or whatever you call them that won’t pay child support.

Not when other men gang up on them. Fight one man, sure, no problem. Thousands armed with guns, not happening.

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

I'm just going to chime in here, and suggest that we call a single, divisible unit of BCash as a "cuck".

It just seems fitting somehow... Roger watching his slimy projects getting fucked by other people...

meh

too politically loaded

also, I never regarded my partners as property, so really I just don't get it as an insult

It is a word that has a specific meaning. It's not specifically an insult, although some people choose to take it as such.

Taking insult is always a matter of choice. No exceptions.

Insulting someone is a full-fledged speech act. It requires nothing from the subject. Insults come unpacked upon delivery. That said, it's a word only a gAlt-Right twat would use.

Innit, Bob?

[Biodom]

A simple self-test for chimerism:

If you have eyes each of a different color, then you are most likely a chimera (not that anything is wrong with that).
Detailed genetic testing would be advised as to not have paternity/maternity issues in the future.

[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

Try to see it from the judges perspective.  There are 4 kids which need to be raised.  That takes money. Let’s assume the wife can’t work because the kids are too little and there’s too many of them.  

The judge’s primary job is to make sure the kids are looked after.  Everyone else can stand in line.

The daughter is his - he has to pay child support for her. The sons, well he says he loves them and has raised them as his own.  But he comes into court waving a piece of paper (which could be forged for all the judge knows) and flapping his gums about how this is his get out of jail free card and now he doesn’t have to pay any money to raise his sons hahahahahaha.  

The judge doesn’t give a fuck about a piece of paper.  He knows that if he orders child support for only the daughter, that’s not enough money and probably all 5 of them (mother, daughter, three sons) will either be homeless or destitute.  So he orders child support for all four kids.

The husband goes on a massive media campaign because MUH RIGHTS.  He kicks up a national fuss. Does the husband give a shit about the kids?  No he doesn’t.  He only cares about MUH RIGHTS.

So the kids are now the center of a national media firestorm.  They are probably getting picked on at school.  So the judge uses the only tool in his toolkit and revokes access, because it’s obvious the hunsbad doesn’t give a fuck about the kids either, he just wants to be flow first class to New York to talk to Howard Stern about MUH RIGHTS.

I expect I am wasting my breath in here but there you go.  

The mother should be homeless if she can't fend for herself at this point. And the kids should be taken into custody.

The mother has already made it perfectly clear that she is not mentally capable of taking responsibility for her own actions, which indicates that she doesn't have the capacity of taking reseponsibility for raising children either. Allowing the kids to stay with that person will just increase the likelihood of such events repeating in the future.
And forcing the "father" to pay increases the chances of other women cheating on men while still extorting money out of them for kids that are not theirs. So setting such a precedent is wholly irresponsible by the judge and an abuse of power (to the detriment of society as a whole).

[HairyMaclairy]

Keep in mind the kids come first.  Everyone else comes second.

That means that making the kids suffer because the mother slept around is the wrong answer.

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

You bunch of off-topic cucks. Get back to work!

[Ibian]

Keep in mind the kids come first.  Everyone else comes second.

That means that making the kids suffer because the mother slept around is the wrong answer.

No. I come first. Then my kids - note, MY kids, not some other mans kids - then the mother of my kids. Then everyone else.

There is a hierarchy, and some cheating whore is not in it.

[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

Keep in mind the kids come first.  Everyone else comes second.

That means that making the kids suffer because the mother slept around is the wrong answer.

And that's why they should be taken away from the mother. Her lack of responsibility will cause long lasting damage to her children as opposed to short lived grief. It's not like they can't see her whatsoever, and it's certainly not like they can't go live with her once they're of legal age. So there's no reason to risk further damage by having an irresponsible twat raise those kids. And since we're on a Bitcoin forum here, I'm sure we all know where the dice fall in terms of short versus long.

And as far as child support goes. No. Not everyone else comes second. He did not father the boys so he should not be forced to pay for them. That's called theft. No matter how hard you try to reason it away.

[explorer]

You bunch of off-topic cucks. Get back to work!

Work is slavery, man!  Haven't you heard?

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

Keep in mind the kids come first.  Everyone else comes second.

That means that making the kids suffer because the mother slept around is the wrong answer.

No. I come first. Then my kids - note, MY kids, not some other mans kids - then the mother of my kids. Then everyone else.

There is a hierarchy, and some cheating whore is not in it.

Individualism only until your collectivism kicks in, right at your front door. You are a moral tribalist at heart.

[Ibian]

Keep in mind the kids come first.  Everyone else comes second.

That means that making the kids suffer because the mother slept around is the wrong answer.

No. I come first. Then my kids - note, MY kids, not some other mans kids - then the mother of my kids. Then everyone else.

There is a hierarchy, and some cheating whore is not in it.

Individualism only until your collectivism kicks in, right at your front door. You are a moral tribalist at heart.

Family is what matters. I am the most important part of my family, and everyone is almost as important. Those brats fathered by someone else? Not family. The cheating whore who lied to me and tricked me into spending money and effort raising some bastard spawn? Negative fucking family. She deserves to suffer, and the other kids deserve their real father.

[explorer]

Keep in mind the kids come first.  Everyone else comes second.

That means that making the kids suffer because the mother slept around is the wrong answer.

No. I come first. Then my kids - note, MY kids, not some other mans kids - then the mother of my kids. Then everyone else.

There is a hierarchy, and some cheating whore is not in it.

Individualism only until your collectivism kicks in, right at your front door. You are a moral tribalist at heart.

If you don't take care of yourself first (nobody else will) then you will not be of much use to the others for long.  Self first IS the long view.  Take responsibility for your own actions.  Set an example.

[grn]

It is a little mind boggling that anyone would sell during the weekend knowing they could sell for 10-20% more on Monday. Can a bear explain the mentality?

I'm not a bear but I will try to explain following a simple strategy that helps me sleep at night:
I sell 50% of my earnings daily, regardless of price.

 Invest -> Profit -> Protect

[explorer]

It is a little mind boggling that anyone would sell during the weekend knowing they could sell for 10-20% more on Monday. Can a bear explain the mentality?

I'm not a bear but I will try to explain following a simple strategy that helps me sleep at night:
I sell 50% of my earnings daily, regardless of price.

 Invest -> Profit -> Protect

Phhhht.

That's no way to gamble!

[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

Family is what matters. I am the most important part of my family, and everyone is almost as important. Those brats fathered by someone else? Not family. The cheating whore who lied to me and tricked me into spending money and effort raising some bastard spawn? Negative fucking family. She deserves to suffer, and the other kids deserve their real father.

If you don't take care of yourself first (nobody else will) then you will not be of much use to the others for long.  Self first IS the long view.  Take responsibility for your own actions.  Set an example.

Would merit, but ran out. So QFT instead.

[Searing]

Keep in mind the kids come first.  Everyone else comes second.

That means that making the kids suffer because the mother slept around is the wrong answer.

And that's why they should be taken away from the mother. Her lack of responsibility will cause long lasting damage to her children as opposed to short lived grief. It's not like they can't see her whatsoever, and it's certainly not like they can't go live with her once they're of legal age. So there's no reason to risk further damage by having an irresponsible twat raise those kids. And since we're on a Bitcoin forum here, I'm sure we all know where the dice fall in terms of short versus long.

And as far as child support goes. No. Not everyone else comes second. He did not father the boys so he should not be forced to pay for them. That's called theft. No matter how hard you try to reason it away.

Sure, giant foster homes...that has worked good in the past and other countries today (not) ... see how well that worked in the 20's and 30's ... taking kids away from unwed mothers

[becoin]

It is a little mind boggling that anyone would sell during the weekend knowing they could sell for 10-20% more on Monday. Can a bear explain the mentality?

I'm not a bear but I will try to explain following a simple strategy that helps me sleep at night:
I sell 50% of my earnings daily, regardless of price.

 Invest -> Profit -> Protect

My strategy that helps me sleep at night is to convert all my daily earnings to bitcoin, regardless of price.

[Last of the V8s]

[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

Insulting someone is a full-fledged speech act. It requires nothing from the subject. Insults come unpacked upon delivery. That said, it's a word only a gAlt-Right twat would use.
Innit, Bob?

If said word is "cuck", then no, I would not claim it's a word the alt-right "twats" would exclusively use.

Amusing perspective, though. Most of the IRL cuckolds I have been made aware of, swing liberal.

The "altright" (or whatever on YT) seems to like to use the word. But yes, I've noticed it being mostly the SJW type person that is into whoring around, or as they like to call it "polyarmory". Heck, there was some article that claimed that cuckoldry is a positive thing for a relationship. I guess they've never heard of communication, or at least toys. I expect a lot of midlife crisis and late-life depression as they look back on their lives a few decades from now. The easy way out never goes well after all.