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[Ibian]

What's even more pertinent than 100GB of harddrive space is 100GB of bandwidth which is a sizeable portion of (or over) the monthly bandwidth cap for most ISPs.

Only for portable internet. My home connection is a 100 mbps connection with unlimited use. For like 40 bucks a month.

[explorer]

A single vote by 350,000,000 people with 250 bytes of data per vote would use over 87.5GB on the blockchain. That's just in a really simple case but usually a ballot has like 50 things on it.

and usually 60-70% don't vote.  If voting could change things, it would be illegal. 

[TERA2]

It wasn't too long ago that comcast cable had a 250GB cap. Not sure if they still do.

Here's another thing. How do you distribute the private keys too all of these people and
A) Ensure the fairness and integrity of the vote
B) Protect the identity of the voters

[Arriemoller]

Global warming? Global warming!

Did you know that spiders don't breathe? They don't have lungs. Instead oxygen simply seeps into holes in their bodies. And as we all know, the atmosphere was denser in older times - denser atmosphere, more co2, more oxygen, bigger bugs. Also dinosaurs. There were dragonflies so big they could have eaten humans, if we had existed back then.

co2 is not a pollutant. On the contrary, it is plant food. Plants take in co2 from the atmosphere and excrete o2, oxygen, the thing we need to live. You may have heard of it. It is the very foundation of the entire food chain.

More co2 means more plants means more oxygen means more animals means more life. It is a Good Thing. In addition, warmer weather is better than colder weather. More people freeze to death than die from heat. So go on, burn some oil. Do your part to improve the world.

Only in small insects, the bigger ones must use a pumping motion to vent the air.

From swedish wikipedia (I know you can read this).

"Hos större insekter ventileras de yttre delarna av trakésystemet med hjälp av pumpande rörelser med kroppen, men i de inre delarna transporteras syrgasen också hos dem med diffusion."

https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traké

[JayJuanGee]

Can we please leave bcash alone for satoshi's sake? (no, I don't mean that fuckface Craig) Bcash is just a testnet to see bitcoin's potential weaknesses. Just like Litecoin is bitcoin's testnet before the huge protocol upgrades. If bcash kills bitcoin somehow, damn then It very well deserves the #1 spot. Let them attack with everything they got. DDOS'ing nodes, spreading FUD&Lies whatever. Everybody with a half functioning brain can see what's happening.

Let's focus on Bitcoin's price. Where are we going at now? Moon? $100k? Give me some good news!

There is nothing wrong with focusing on negging bcash as bitcoin attack vector, and sure in the end, the market is going to decide how much value to give to bcash versus bitcoin, and the pain might drag out for a year or two, or the pain might drag out for 20 years or more... I would rather see bcash die more quickly... and even to help it along from time to time, but hey.. whatever, the market is going to decide.. even if it may take more than 20 years.

[explorer]

What's even more pertinent than 100GB of harddrive space is 100GB of bandwidth which is a sizeable portion of (or over) the monthly bandwidth cap for most ISPs.

Only for portable internet. My home connection is a 100 mbps connection with unlimited use. For like 40 bucks a month.

I'm happy for you.  Mine is quite limited, and more expensive.  Unlimited is about double that, but I don't need it, and can't stand to give them more money.  Interested to see if they try to ding me for overages again this month, since I was away for 6 weeks with my modem unplugged.

[Ibian]

Global warming? Global warming!

Did you know that spiders don't breathe? They don't have lungs. Instead oxygen simply seeps into holes in their bodies. And as we all know, the atmosphere was denser in older times - denser atmosphere, more co2, more oxygen, bigger bugs. Also dinosaurs. There were dragonflies so big they could have eaten humans, if we had existed back then.

co2 is not a pollutant. On the contrary, it is plant food. Plants take in co2 from the atmosphere and excrete o2, oxygen, the thing we need to live. You may have heard of it. It is the very foundation of the entire food chain.

More co2 means more plants means more oxygen means more animals means more life. It is a Good Thing. In addition, warmer weather is better than colder weather. More people freeze to death than die from heat. So go on, burn some oil. Do your part to improve the world.

Only in small insects, the bigger ones must use a pumping motion to vent the air.

From swedish wikipedia (I know you can read this).

"Hos större insekter ventileras de yttre delarna av trakésystemet med hjälp av pumpande rörelser med kroppen, men i de inre delarna transporteras syrgasen också hos dem med diffusion."

https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traké

Regardless of the precise mechanics of spider oxygenation, muscles require oxygen to work in all animals. The effects of high altitudes on the body is well known. A denser atmosphere would still be a good thing.

[JayJuanGee]

And what is the reason to tell us

Jay hits the $40,000 question. Unfortunately, Jay didn't phrase his answer in the form of a blockchain.
 

Does this help?

[HairyMaclairy]

A single vote by 350,000,000 people with 250 bytes of data per vote would use over 87.5GB on the blockchain. That's just in a really simple case but usually a ballot has like 50 things on it.

and usually 60-70% don't vote.  If voting could change things, it would be illegal.  

The Australians make it illegal not to vote. You get fined if you don’t show.  

They also vote on the weekend and employers are fined if they don’t allow employees a break to go vote.

Needless to say voter turnout is always above 90%.  

*Yes I know you libertarians detest state coercision in any form, including being made to vote, speed limits and fire codes.  Tough shit.

[JayJuanGee]

0.001 million dollar by end of May

noted...

That big of a drop over 5-6 weeks I would bet against with everything, if there are any takers...?  Or are we talking something other than BTC?

It's another way of saying $10k..., which seems to be about 20% UP (from our current price of about $8,350), rather than DOWN........


EDIT:   Whoops.  I thought that Raja_MBZ was a fellow bull, and he meant to say $10k; however, after redirecting myself and counting the decimals of his original entry (of .001 million dollars) again... per direction of Hairy, berry...... I see that literally, the math adds up to $1k per BTC... ... God help us!!!!! (that is my attempt at a "royal we").. Raja_MBZ... please say it isn't so.

[HairyMaclairy]

Check your decimals buddy

[AlexGR]

A single vote by 350,000,000 people with 250 bytes of data per vote would use over 87.5GB on the blockchain. That's just in a really simple case but usually a ballot has like 50 things on it.

This is a time-based problem. Meaning that gigabytes are important in 2018. In 2028 terabytes might be important while megabytes are seen like gigabytes today. And in 2038, gigabytes might be regarded as kilobytes today: trivial.

[jojo69]

*Yes I know you libertarians detest state coercision in any form, including being made to vote, speed limits and fire codes.  Tough shit.

no, not tough shit

the sheriff knows goddamn good and well where not to go around here

you statists don't wield all the power you think you do

[Paashaas]

What ever you do do NOT listen to Jbreher, he is one of those Bcash shit noobs.

He's here since 2011 and still dont understand a thing about Bitcoin and how to keep it decentralised, in fact he loves Bcash road map wich leads to heavy centralisation.

Shilling Bcash at other subs and here he's handwaving...

While I view BCH as The One True Bitcoin

You're really a piece of work, you know that paashaas? Here I'm engaging in some friendly banter, completely free of any advocacy whatsoever. You're the asshole that decided to tout my preferences. Is that the way you interact in F2F social situations as well? You're probably headed for dying cold, scared, and alone.

And broke.

You claim I 'don't understand a thing about Bitcoin'. However, I have enough BTC (yes, BTC) to live in luxury for the rest of my life. Hell, I _also_ have enough BCH to live in luxury for the rest of my life.

Hey! Two luxurious lives for the price of one! Such a deal!

Go fuck yourself.

This is not about how much coins you got but about youre viewing Bcash beeing the real Bitcoin, ore youre Segwitcoin bullcrap. Aslong as you keep telling that i'll keep calling you a Bcash noob.

People here corrected you many times but somehow you keep spreading FUD.

Let me teach noobs like you a very important lesson; Bitcoin (BTC) is the only coin who solved the The Byzantine Generals Problem. All the other coins out there doesn't solve that problem. Thats why they are called Centralised ALT-coins. There is no such thing as original Satoshi's vision in Bcash and ore in any other ALT-coin out there.

Segwit is an update in the Bitcoin Core client which runs the software, we have Segwit by consensus in a decentralised system. If you dont respect that than fck off to r/btc.

Jbreher and Afbitcoins are the only Bcash shit noobs left here so use youre brains for once , then i'll starting to treat you as normal people.

[Toxic2040]

What ever you do do NOT listen to Jbreher, he is one of those Bcash shit noobs.

He's here since 2011 and still dont understand a thing about Bitcoin and how to keep it decentralised, in fact he loves Bcash road map wich leads to heavy centralisation.

Shilling Bcash at other subs and here he's handwaving...

While I view BCH as The One True Bitcoin

You're really a piece of work, you know that paashaas? Here I'm engaging in some friendly banter, completely free of any advocacy whatsoever. You're the asshole that decided to tout my preferences. Is that the way you interact in F2F social situations as well? You're probably headed for dying cold, scared, and alone.

And broke.

You claim I 'don't understand a thing about Bitcoin'. However, I have enough BTC (yes, BTC) to live in luxury for the rest of my life. Hell, I _also_ have enough BCH to live in luxury for the rest of my life.

Hey! Two luxurious lives for the price of one! Such a deal!

Go fuck yourself.

This is not about how much coins you got but about youre viewing Bcash beeing the real Bitcoin, ore youre Segwitcoin bullcrap. Aslong as you keep telling that i'll keep calling you a Bcash noob.

People here corrected you many times but somehow you keep spreading FUD.

Let me teach noobs like you a very important lesson; Bitcoin (BTC) is the only coin who solved the The Byzantine Generals Problem. All the other coins out there doesn't solve that problem. Thats why they are called Centralised ALT-coins. There is no such thing as original Satoshi's vision in Bcash and ore in any other ALT-coin out there.

Segwit is an update in the Bitcoin Core client which runs the software, we have Segwit by consensus in a decentralised system. If you dont respect that than fck off to r/btc.

Jbreher and Afbitcoins are the only Bcash shit noobs left here so use youre brains for once , then i'll starting to treat you as normal people.

[JayJuanGee]

Check your decimals buddy

O.k.. egg on the face for me.



I edited my original posted response, and I had believed that Raja_MBZ had meant to say $10k by the end of May.. but perhaps that was my own wishful thinking?  

[Arriemoller]

A single vote by 350,000,000 people with 250 bytes of data per vote would use over 87.5GB on the blockchain. That's just in a really simple case but usually a ballot has like 50 things on it.

and usually 60-70% don't vote.  If voting could change things, it would be illegal.  

The Australians make it illegal not to vote. You get fined if you don’t show.  

They also vote on the weekend and employers are fined if they don’t allow employees a break to go vote.

Needless to say voter turnout is always above 90%.  

*Yes I know you libertarians detest state coercision in any form, including being made to vote, speed limits and fire codes.  Tough shit.

Actually, we would like the roads to be private and the owner free to set whatever speed limit he wants, cause, you know, it's his property to do with as he pleases.

[HairyMaclairy]

*Yes I know you libertarians detest state coercision in any form, including being made to vote, speed limits and fire codes.  Tough shit.

no, not tough shit

the sheriff knows goddamn good and well where not to go around here

you statists don't wield all the power you think you do

You are too highly educated and well spoken to be a sovereign citizen with no license plates.

A single vote by 350,000,000 people with 250 bytes of data per vote would use over 87.5GB on the blockchain. That's just in a really simple case but usually a ballot has like 50 things on it.

and usually 60-70% don't vote.  If voting could change things, it would be illegal.  

The Australians make it illegal not to vote. You get fined if you don’t show.  

They also vote on the weekend and employers are fined if they don’t allow employees a break to go vote.

Needless to say voter turnout is always above 90%.  

*Yes I know you libertarians detest state coercision in any form, including being made to vote, speed limits and fire codes.  Tough shit.

Actually, we would like the roads to be private and the owner free to set whatever speed limit he wants, cause, you know, it's his property to do with as he pleases.

I’m buying the road in front of your house and the back alley. You have to pay me $100k per year in a license fee to leave your driveway.   If you can’t afford it, I will buy your house from you for $1.   If you or the fire department step onto my road without paying my license fee, I will shoot you for trespassing on my land.

[Arriemoller]

*Yes I know you libertarians detest state coercision in any form, including being made to vote, speed limits and fire codes.  Tough shit.

no, not tough shit

the sheriff knows goddamn good and well where not to go around here

you statists don't wield all the power you think you do

You are too highly educated and well spoken to be a sovereign citizen with no license plates.

A single vote by 350,000,000 people with 250 bytes of data per vote would use over 87.5GB on the blockchain. That's just in a really simple case but usually a ballot has like 50 things on it.

and usually 60-70% don't vote.  If voting could change things, it would be illegal.  

The Australians make it illegal not to vote. You get fined if you don’t show.  

They also vote on the weekend and employers are fined if they don’t allow employees a break to go vote.

Needless to say voter turnout is always above 90%.  

*Yes I know you libertarians detest state coercision in any form, including being made to vote, speed limits and fire codes.  Tough shit.

Actually, we would like the roads to be private and the owner free to set whatever speed limit he wants, cause, you know, it's his property to do with as he pleases.

I’m buying the road in front of your house and the back alley. You have to pay me $100k per year in a license fee to leave your driveway.   If you can’t afford it, I will buy your house from you for $1.  If you step onto my road without paying my license fee, I will shoot you for trespassing on my land.

Since my land is parallel to your road, I'll build a better road and put you out of business.

[HairyMaclairy]

Sure you will.