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[JayJuanGee]

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My hodlings demonstrate conclusively that I understand that this first and greatest decentralized money would -- and will continue to -- appreciate in value, due to its superior characteristics as money. I could have sold it all at $2, $13, $36, $266, $1080, or $20,000, and profited greatly at any of those stages. But I didn't.

Sure, it's not proof of a lot of understanding but it is certainly proof of some understanding. And easily dispatched.

Paashass is the kind of fuckin' coward that taunts others -- knowing he/she would be free of any retribution -- only when thinking the sentiment of the crowd is solidly behind him/her. As in dragging others down, is the only way he/she feels better about him/herself.

Quite frankly, I really don't see how I'm the one in the wrong here.

It's not really about you being in the wrong, but the fact that you so adamantly engaged in a campaign to attempt to undermine bitcoin... so therefore you lost a lot of credibility.. that you may not get back with some folks... and surely, there is some battle here that seems to not be done in the BCash continued attempted attacks on bitcoin, so there remain a number of folks who either don't trust you at all or are very uncomfortable in giving you any kind of benefit of the doubt... and part of that problem likely remains  that some innocent folks are getting fucked over by ongoing misleading aspects of bcash attempting to portray themselves as the real bitcoin (or plausibility of such)... and sometimes even smart people get tricked by that bullshit.

[HairyMaclairy]

A single vote by 350,000,000 people with 250 bytes of data per vote would use over 87.5GB on the blockchain. That's just in a really simple case but usually a ballot has like 50 things on it.

I believe in blockchain but I am strongly opposed to computerized voting in any form.   It is far too easy to corrupt the input with voting machines. 

[HairyMaclairy]

Jbreher

Let’s not kid ourselves here.  Bitcoin Cash is a money grab by Ver, Wu, Ayre, Peter R, Wright and the rest.

http://bitcoinist.com/bitcoin-billionaire-calvin-ayre-building-100m-bcash-resort-antigua/

By continuing to support Bitcoin Cash, you are continuing to openly support fraud.  You will not get any sympathy from us so long as you openly support fraudsters.  

[Rosewater Foundation]

Jbreher lost a lot of my respect when he tried to sell the idea that bCash was as decentralized as Bitcoin because the potential set of bCash miners was the same as the potential set of Bitcoin miners. He might as well have been selling undercoating, and he probably knew it

[TERA2]

What's even more pertinent than 100GB of harddrive space is 100GB of bandwidth which is a sizeable portion of (or over) the monthly bandwidth cap for most ISPs.

[JayJuanGee]

Anybody still holding Byteball? That's one of the few BTC airdrops I never dumped. It seems like it's been tanking the last 8 months though.

Fuck off this thread is for BTC

Yes I hold byteball. The tech is very interesting, but the distribution has been botched. I'm hodling for now though.

FYI he's the thread starter or the OP and the moderator here. So watch your word. Maybe deleted this reply later.

Oops

 

you fucked up afbitcoins... prepare yourself for punishment.

[Ibian]

What's even more pertinent than 100GB of harddrive space is 100GB of bandwidth which is a sizeable portion of (or over) the monthly bandwidth cap for most ISPs.

Only for portable internet. My home connection is a 100 mbps connection with unlimited use. For like 40 bucks a month.

[explorer]

A single vote by 350,000,000 people with 250 bytes of data per vote would use over 87.5GB on the blockchain. That's just in a really simple case but usually a ballot has like 50 things on it.

and usually 60-70% don't vote.  If voting could change things, it would be illegal. 

[TERA2]

It wasn't too long ago that comcast cable had a 250GB cap. Not sure if they still do.

Here's another thing. How do you distribute the private keys too all of these people and
A) Ensure the fairness and integrity of the vote
B) Protect the identity of the voters

[Arriemoller]

Global warming? Global warming!

Did you know that spiders don't breathe? They don't have lungs. Instead oxygen simply seeps into holes in their bodies. And as we all know, the atmosphere was denser in older times - denser atmosphere, more co2, more oxygen, bigger bugs. Also dinosaurs. There were dragonflies so big they could have eaten humans, if we had existed back then.

co2 is not a pollutant. On the contrary, it is plant food. Plants take in co2 from the atmosphere and excrete o2, oxygen, the thing we need to live. You may have heard of it. It is the very foundation of the entire food chain.

More co2 means more plants means more oxygen means more animals means more life. It is a Good Thing. In addition, warmer weather is better than colder weather. More people freeze to death than die from heat. So go on, burn some oil. Do your part to improve the world.

Only in small insects, the bigger ones must use a pumping motion to vent the air.

From swedish wikipedia (I know you can read this).

"Hos större insekter ventileras de yttre delarna av trakésystemet med hjälp av pumpande rörelser med kroppen, men i de inre delarna transporteras syrgasen också hos dem med diffusion."

https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traké

[JayJuanGee]

Can we please leave bcash alone for satoshi's sake? (no, I don't mean that fuckface Craig) Bcash is just a testnet to see bitcoin's potential weaknesses. Just like Litecoin is bitcoin's testnet before the huge protocol upgrades. If bcash kills bitcoin somehow, damn then It very well deserves the #1 spot. Let them attack with everything they got. DDOS'ing nodes, spreading FUD&Lies whatever. Everybody with a half functioning brain can see what's happening.

Let's focus on Bitcoin's price. Where are we going at now? Moon? $100k? Give me some good news!

There is nothing wrong with focusing on negging bcash as bitcoin attack vector, and sure in the end, the market is going to decide how much value to give to bcash versus bitcoin, and the pain might drag out for a year or two, or the pain might drag out for 20 years or more... I would rather see bcash die more quickly... and even to help it along from time to time, but hey.. whatever, the market is going to decide.. even if it may take more than 20 years.

[explorer]

What's even more pertinent than 100GB of harddrive space is 100GB of bandwidth which is a sizeable portion of (or over) the monthly bandwidth cap for most ISPs.

Only for portable internet. My home connection is a 100 mbps connection with unlimited use. For like 40 bucks a month.

I'm happy for you.  Mine is quite limited, and more expensive.  Unlimited is about double that, but I don't need it, and can't stand to give them more money.  Interested to see if they try to ding me for overages again this month, since I was away for 6 weeks with my modem unplugged.

[Ibian]

Global warming? Global warming!

Did you know that spiders don't breathe? They don't have lungs. Instead oxygen simply seeps into holes in their bodies. And as we all know, the atmosphere was denser in older times - denser atmosphere, more co2, more oxygen, bigger bugs. Also dinosaurs. There were dragonflies so big they could have eaten humans, if we had existed back then.

co2 is not a pollutant. On the contrary, it is plant food. Plants take in co2 from the atmosphere and excrete o2, oxygen, the thing we need to live. You may have heard of it. It is the very foundation of the entire food chain.

More co2 means more plants means more oxygen means more animals means more life. It is a Good Thing. In addition, warmer weather is better than colder weather. More people freeze to death than die from heat. So go on, burn some oil. Do your part to improve the world.

Only in small insects, the bigger ones must use a pumping motion to vent the air.

From swedish wikipedia (I know you can read this).

"Hos större insekter ventileras de yttre delarna av trakésystemet med hjälp av pumpande rörelser med kroppen, men i de inre delarna transporteras syrgasen också hos dem med diffusion."

https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traké

Regardless of the precise mechanics of spider oxygenation, muscles require oxygen to work in all animals. The effects of high altitudes on the body is well known. A denser atmosphere would still be a good thing.

[JayJuanGee]

And what is the reason to tell us

Jay hits the $40,000 question. Unfortunately, Jay didn't phrase his answer in the form of a blockchain.
 

Does this help?

[HairyMaclairy]

A single vote by 350,000,000 people with 250 bytes of data per vote would use over 87.5GB on the blockchain. That's just in a really simple case but usually a ballot has like 50 things on it.

and usually 60-70% don't vote.  If voting could change things, it would be illegal.  

The Australians make it illegal not to vote. You get fined if you don’t show.  

They also vote on the weekend and employers are fined if they don’t allow employees a break to go vote.

Needless to say voter turnout is always above 90%.  

*Yes I know you libertarians detest state coercision in any form, including being made to vote, speed limits and fire codes.  Tough shit.

[JayJuanGee]

0.001 million dollar by end of May

noted...

That big of a drop over 5-6 weeks I would bet against with everything, if there are any takers...?  Or are we talking something other than BTC?

It's another way of saying $10k..., which seems to be about 20% UP (from our current price of about $8,350), rather than DOWN........


EDIT:   Whoops.  I thought that Raja_MBZ was a fellow bull, and he meant to say $10k; however, after redirecting myself and counting the decimals of his original entry (of .001 million dollars) again... per direction of Hairy, berry...... I see that literally, the math adds up to $1k per BTC... ... God help us!!!!! (that is my attempt at a "royal we").. Raja_MBZ... please say it isn't so.

[HairyMaclairy]

Check your decimals buddy

[AlexGR]

A single vote by 350,000,000 people with 250 bytes of data per vote would use over 87.5GB on the blockchain. That's just in a really simple case but usually a ballot has like 50 things on it.

This is a time-based problem. Meaning that gigabytes are important in 2018. In 2028 terabytes might be important while megabytes are seen like gigabytes today. And in 2038, gigabytes might be regarded as kilobytes today: trivial.

[jojo69]

*Yes I know you libertarians detest state coercision in any form, including being made to vote, speed limits and fire codes.  Tough shit.

no, not tough shit

the sheriff knows goddamn good and well where not to go around here

you statists don't wield all the power you think you do

[Paashaas]

What ever you do do NOT listen to Jbreher, he is one of those Bcash shit noobs.

He's here since 2011 and still dont understand a thing about Bitcoin and how to keep it decentralised, in fact he loves Bcash road map wich leads to heavy centralisation.

Shilling Bcash at other subs and here he's handwaving...

While I view BCH as The One True Bitcoin

You're really a piece of work, you know that paashaas? Here I'm engaging in some friendly banter, completely free of any advocacy whatsoever. You're the asshole that decided to tout my preferences. Is that the way you interact in F2F social situations as well? You're probably headed for dying cold, scared, and alone.

And broke.

You claim I 'don't understand a thing about Bitcoin'. However, I have enough BTC (yes, BTC) to live in luxury for the rest of my life. Hell, I _also_ have enough BCH to live in luxury for the rest of my life.

Hey! Two luxurious lives for the price of one! Such a deal!

Go fuck yourself.

This is not about how much coins you got but about youre viewing Bcash beeing the real Bitcoin, ore youre Segwitcoin bullcrap. Aslong as you keep telling that i'll keep calling you a Bcash noob.

People here corrected you many times but somehow you keep spreading FUD.

Let me teach noobs like you a very important lesson; Bitcoin (BTC) is the only coin who solved the The Byzantine Generals Problem. All the other coins out there doesn't solve that problem. Thats why they are called Centralised ALT-coins. There is no such thing as original Satoshi's vision in Bcash and ore in any other ALT-coin out there.

Segwit is an update in the Bitcoin Core client which runs the software, we have Segwit by consensus in a decentralised system. If you dont respect that than fck off to r/btc.

Jbreher and Afbitcoins are the only Bcash shit noobs left here so use youre brains for once , then i'll starting to treat you as normal people.