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Question: How much of your corn do you plan on cashing out in the next massive bull run?
None - 23 (18.7%)
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June 13, 2018, 04:52:31 PM

The smartest bet of all, I will bet 13 btc on it not going to zero.    I think I'm hedged on that one, at some point I'm perfectly right either way :p

All kidding aside, I think BTC markets do love to slide to both extremes and of course the whales or however you view exchange volume they want the bigger splash not the indifferent hesitation of a price doing little in either direction which is more risky over time to take part in then catching a wave up or down.

If you want a distraction, I would look at US dollar.   With US treasury bond rate yields rising, it should put the pressure on lots of alternative holdings.   USD has seen some strength recently, I dont know if the NPK agreement today was helping in forming a positive trend to dollar.  Ultimately I think it declines but short term it appears stronger, the peak actually being in early 2017 in anticipation with the reality being deficit spending, weakness, etc.


I dont really rate costs as a determiner of prices, that would apply if we had a relationship of production falling off or increasing on higher prices. BTC doesnt operate like that, like a mined metal would hence bigger spikes up and more volatility then many markets
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June 13, 2018, 04:58:12 PM


We are in free fall.

Good. Let ‘r rip and be done with this correction.
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June 13, 2018, 04:58:36 PM

Countdown to the first story of someone who commits suicide due to the price drop. Morbid and sad, but you know it's coming.  Undecided

If there is anyone out there thinking about it, remember...you have a brain. You can continue to make money in the future. You don't need stuff. Think of it as a fresh start.

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June 13, 2018, 05:01:06 PM

Still in the tripple bottom zone, wost case scenario: $3000-$5000.

We enjoyed the top of the Bull now we feel the pain from the bear same cycle only the numbers are bigger.

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June 13, 2018, 05:02:27 PM

Countdown to the first story of someone who commits suicide due to the price drop. Morbid and sad, but you know it's coming.


It already happened: https://zycrypto.com/20-year-old-korean-student-commits-suicide-losing-money-bitcoin-trading/
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June 13, 2018, 05:06:53 PM

Since when were you under the impression that CRAB-17 was over?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y28Diszaoo4
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June 13, 2018, 05:07:45 PM
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This chap musta bought at $19K....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbTO8-tWc4U
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June 13, 2018, 05:08:58 PM

In view of a possible -and extended- cryptographic winter, and the comments and advice that have emerged here about stocking up with enough to withstand the winter, I have the following question arises... how much is enough to live on for a year (mainly considering housing, food , and basic services) in their respective contexts? Other places in the world?
I live in Latin America, and I would say that with 10,000 dollars (or even less) one can live comfortably for a year (taking into account that I am young, I live alone, and I consider myself a minimalist person).

I thank you in advance for your answers.
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June 13, 2018, 05:10:05 PM
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June 13, 2018, 05:11:21 PM

Okay guys since I have started with the very fun hobby of watching charts, drinking and posting in this thread I have started to learn he basics.

But is this dip different?
We see a triangle from the dip and rise form with a push to rising now.
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June 13, 2018, 05:12:25 PM


At this point we're kinda close to TERA's $6144 prediction, but I don't think we'll cross it.


I shouldn't have said that.
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June 13, 2018, 05:17:17 PM
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In view of a possible -and extended- cryptographic winter, and the comments and advice that have emerged here about stocking up with enough to withstand the winter, I have the following question arises... how much is enough to live on for a year (mainly considering housing, food , and basic services) in their respective contexts? Other places in the world?
I live in Latin America, and I would say that with 10,000 dollars (or even less) one can live comfortably for a year (taking into account that I am young, I live alone, and I consider myself a minimalist person).

I thank you in advance for your answers.

I am currently in Thailand. The 3 bedroom house I'm staying at costs $400 per month in rent. Shared with roomates you could be spending $200 for all of your living expenses and then food would be about another $1-200 per month.

Cambodia and Vietnam are even cheaper.

I will be going back to Tahiti next week. My rent is around $1300 per month in a house shared with 4 people. Food is incredibly expensive. I usually don't pay attention to prices for food since I don't spend money on hardly anything else so I am willing to spend on the best quality of food. But I glanced at a receipt after going to the store one day and saw that I paid like $20 for a pack of 4 chicken breasts (big organic ones, but still). In the US I usually buy packs of chicken because chicken is so cheap. So I'm definitely spending at least $2k per month there. That's not counting car and expensive gas...I'll likely buy a scooter when I get back.
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June 13, 2018, 05:17:55 PM

Good morning all.

A big day it seems. Lots of speculation happening..  I have three things I think are worth mentioning this morning..

1. Today the Fed will issue guidance for a interest rate hike. Should be out in a couple of hours but generally positive news is expected.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-global-forex/dollar-mixed-ahead-of-feds-interest-rate-decision-idUSKBN1J902I

2. Some interesting data about Tether and its use to manipulate the price of bitcoin and other cryptos. While this seems credible..I would caution that this needs further peer review. Also of note..this is not the best written paper I have seen from an academic. There are several problems with continuity and syntax I spotted right off. ymmv.
https://poseidon01.ssrn.com/delivery.php?ID=295096073027113073065090119101116107055064063038093061070012082027073102081003117023041124051002057017044101120072087031100027017010070089022088094094112018087082125059006082106028007000092107024030017085025127109107118017000105108013080026065066096093&EXT=pdf

3. I can no longer recommend bitcoin as a buy at this time. While I remain bullish in the long term..short term and mid seem to indicate we are going under 5k. I see nothing on the horizon that indicates a rebound upwards is in the making.
While this is probably what is wanted to drive capitulation..I have to report what I am seeing. I sincerely apologize everyone. Being the bearer of bad news I know intellectually its not my fault but it still feels really bad.

I will show charts..they all show indicators at the bottom...meaning the price should be heading north. But its still dropping as market sentiment is in control of pricing.

1h


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Ok. Here's some despair.

I'm not proud to be asking this question, but...

"Does it look like Doug Polk will lose his bet ?"

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Yes.  Yes it does Bob. We are all losers today.  Ahh..tfw you are wrong before you finish your first cup of coffee for the day..  

If it doesn't, I will Jello wrestle you for the amusement of JJG.
Hmm..might be worth propping up the market just to see this...can we get a time frame infofront?   Wink
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June 13, 2018, 05:18:24 PM

In view of a possible -and extended- cryptographic winter, and the comments and advice that have emerged here about stocking up with enough to withstand the winter, I have the following question arises... how much is enough to live on for a year (mainly considering housing, food , and basic services) in their respective contexts? Other places in the world?
I live in Latin America, and I would say that with 10,000 dollars (or even less) one can live comfortably for a year (taking into account that I am young, I live alone, and I consider myself a minimalist person).

I thank you in advance for your answers.

The US is all over the scale. Rural cities can be very cheap. Big cities are super expensive.
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June 13, 2018, 05:18:45 PM

The volume will confirm the bottom and we ain't there yet folks.
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June 13, 2018, 05:21:07 PM
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June 2022: Everyone is depressed that Bitcoin fell from 200K to 60K. Beartrolls gloat, TERA222 is posting on each page that Bitcoins is going back to 30K. Deja vu!
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June 13, 2018, 05:33:05 PM

Sick of this shit, just try test me bears!

GET THE STRAP !!!!!

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June 13, 2018, 05:34:17 PM

Countdown to the first story of someone who commits suicide due to the price drop. Morbid and sad, but you know it's coming.  Undecided

If there is anyone out there thinking about it, remember...you have a brain. You can continue to make money in the future. You don't need stuff. Think of it as a fresh start.

This reminds me of the guy who supposedly killed himself due to losing a million in MtGox. If he'd have just accepted the loss and moved on, he'd probably be due around a million from the claims process now.
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June 13, 2018, 05:36:33 PM
Merited by BobLawblaw (1)

In view of a possible -and extended- cryptographic winter, and the comments and advice that have emerged here about stocking up with enough to withstand the winter, I have the following question arises... how much is enough to live on for a year (mainly considering housing, food , and basic services) in their respective contexts? Other places in the world?
I live in Latin America, and I would say that with 10,000 dollars (or even less) one can live comfortably for a year (taking into account that I am young, I live alone, and I consider myself a minimalist person).

I thank you in advance for your answers.

I would say $75,000/year for me would be a minimum. But that's pretty bare bones. I'd have to cut out international travel and lattes.  Cheesy
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