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June 22, 2018, 12:10:40 PM

drop was lead by the altcoins. huge EOS longs - the money has to come out of that shit, plus counter-tradeable good rating from the Chinese. xrp another lawsuit. btrash doublepends. btc bulls buying ltc and eth far too early. bnb and etc recent groundless pumps. Secret Service bleating to Congress about privacy coins.
and there is plenty of btc fud going round (not citing this here) versus what? dick picks?
where did all the money go then? tethers?
into btc, which is holding up better than most of those; into tether yes, waiting to bet back in; probably also right out of the market into legacy https://twitter.com/BMBernstein/status/1009881274662707201

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Nice clone factory

agreed. very plastic fantastic. useful for physical gymnastics, perhaps not mental.
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June 22, 2018, 12:17:06 PM


 My contrarian contribution Wink

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June 22, 2018, 12:22:47 PM

You know, as a business, you can accept zero confirmation transactions from both BTC and BCash.

For BTC = just wait 10 seconds. Even a cup of coffee can wait 10 seconds. It's zero confirmation, but you can almost safely accept the transaction if there are no double spend attempts after 10 seconds.

For BCash = just wait about 10 seconds also. Maybe 20 if you want to make sure. After a confirmation, send it to an exchange and market sell.

For anything else that costs more than a cup of coffee, I'm sure you can wait 10 minutes for a block; and if the transaction hasn't confirmed yet, it should in a few.
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June 22, 2018, 12:24:13 PM

While all this is happening you could always bet on the world cup..  

I was using Fibonacci to predict a possble winner based on the sequence upto 34 (the fibonacci spiral)

0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34

So Uruguay is tournment zero winner.

1 is Italy.

1 must be Italy again this time.

2 Uruguay (2nd win)  

3 the world cup's 3rd winner (Germany) (who will win it 3  more times in the spiral)

5 Brazil (who will win it 5 times in the spiral)

8 the 8th tournment winner (England)

13 the winner of the 8th tournment will win again on the 13th tournment from now.

21 the 21st tournment, having waited 12 tournments this is number 13. (winner England)







Place your bets now, thank me later Smiley

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and thank me later ......

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England's World Cup 2018 (Belgium 2nd)

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June 22, 2018, 12:33:24 PM

MtGox enters Civil Rehabilitation:
https://mtgox-creditors.com/

"enormous assets ... will be returned to creditors of Mt.Gox"

Is "creditors" the legal term for the users that held balances on Mt. Gox? Sounds like a huge win.
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June 22, 2018, 12:38:30 PM

MtGox enters Civil Rehabilitation:
https://mtgox-creditors.com/

"enormous assets ... will be returned to creditors of Mt.Gox"

Is "creditors" the legal term for the users that held balances on Mt. Gox? Sounds like a huge win.
The important part is in what form.
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June 22, 2018, 12:45:34 PM

MtGox enters Civil Rehabilitation:
https://mtgox-creditors.com/

"enormous assets ... will be returned to creditors of Mt.Gox"

Is "creditors" the legal term for the users that held balances on Mt. Gox? Sounds like a huge win.

great news for anyone caught up in that.

and it's much better news for everyone else than if tibanne ltd had the money returned. that would've meant an instant 60% tax bill that needed paying.
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June 22, 2018, 12:50:27 PM

Creditors normally means businesses owed something. Users come much further down and get nothing. Heres to hoping.

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June 22, 2018, 12:50:36 PM

https://www.mtgox.com/img/pdf/20180622_announcement_en.pdf

They are looking to return the bitcoins to the creditors with a Civil Rehabilitation. No more converting the coins to fiat.

"Therefore, in the civil rehabilitation proceedings in this matter, claims seeking a refund of Bitcoins (“Bitcoin Claims”) will also not be converted into monetary claims after the commencement of the civil rehabilitation proceedings"

Fuck Kobayashi! Bring me Jupiter!
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June 22, 2018, 12:51:38 PM

Creditors normally means businesses owed something. Users come much further down and get nothing. Heres to hoping.



all of those debts have long been met completely. this is the leftovers. it otherwise would've gone straight back to mark karpeles.
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June 22, 2018, 01:01:51 PM

You know, as a business, you can accept zero confirmation transactions from both BTC and BCash.

For BTC = just wait 10 seconds. Even a cup of coffee can wait 10 seconds. It's zero confirmation, but you can almost safely accept the transaction if there are no double spend attempts after 10 seconds.

For BCash = just wait about 10 seconds also. Maybe 20 if you want to make sure. After a confirmation, send it to an exchange and market sell.

For anything else that costs more than a cup of coffee, I'm sure you can wait 10 minutes for a block; and if the transaction hasn't confirmed yet, it should in a few.

Not quite.
Imagine you're i na store buying for 150€ of clothes. Wouldn't it upset you to wait like 15 or 20 minutes for a block? xD
You see yourself waiting near the exit that the block passes?
And if it take 4 blocks nearly an hour spent waiting?

That's completely crazy ^^
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June 22, 2018, 01:06:16 PM

Creditors normally means businesses owed something. Users come much further down and get nothing. Heres to hoping.



all of those debts have long been met completely. this is the leftovers. it otherwise would've gone straight back to mark karpeles.

It will be in fiat...sorry guys.....they don't have a clue on how to return it as BTC to the people who need it back from the mt. gox crash

if they shoot 1.4 billion in USD  equiv of BTC in fiat...before the end of the year say..we may be looking at 3k BTC or lower


as to me, I think now everything is a 'bubble' so will just HODL my btc and live off my alts (as the plan off alts for next 3 years till 66 and take traditional retirement plan and soc sec)

does not seem prudent to cash out crypto (BTC) now and lose 50% from ATH to just put it in fiat and stocks and traditional investments for the coming (whopper) of a

recession I expect (40%) dump, (I mean Trump and other USA mess ups)....thus just gonna ride it all down the next 3 years and hope that IF/when we have a recession in

the USA, BTC, and crypto will act like gold and at least go sideways and or up as a store of value

well, chump to champ, I'll (we) will be the first to know if HODL is tulip farming or HODL is unicorn ranching

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June 22, 2018, 01:12:36 PM


It will be in fiat...sorry guys.....they don't have a clue on how to return it as BTC to the people who need it back from the mt. gox crash


uh, bullshit.

https://www.mtgox.com/img/pdf/20180622_announcement_en.pdf


'In bankruptcy proceedings, non-monetary claims are converted into monetary
claims based on the valuation as at the time of the commencement of
bankruptcy proceedings. In contrast, in civil rehabilitation proceedings,
non-monetary claims are not converted into monetary claims at the time of
commencement of the civil rehabilitation proceedings. Therefore, in the civil
rehabilitation proceedings in this matter, claims seeking a refund of Bitcoins
(“Bitcoin Claims”) will also not be converted into monetary claims after the
commencement of the civil rehabilitation proceedings. '

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June 22, 2018, 01:44:28 PM
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Looks like someone is trying hard to shift the market sentiment. The MtGox news is bullish as FUCK! Instead of 1 entity dumping 160k bitcoins, you will now have thousands of holders of which only a small percentage will sell while the rest will most likely continue to hold.

Don't fall for these red candles which are created with borrowed money on margin


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June 22, 2018, 01:45:40 PM

Bart is at it again


https://tether.to/fss-report-transparency-update/
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ok...........let's move on

EDIT: Bart sometimes moves up, sometimes moves down. Now it's up

Oh my Bart, still playing with us.
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June 22, 2018, 01:46:45 PM

soon it'll be worth what y'all paid for it at Mt.Gox Cry
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June 22, 2018, 01:49:08 PM

Sooo what gives for this recent dump? just another completion of a bart simpson or is this news about Indian banks coming to fruition really crashing the market?
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June 22, 2018, 01:52:18 PM

Sooo what gives for this recent dump? just another completion of a bart simpson or is this news about Indian banks coming to fruition really crashing the market?


It's probably in the interest of the shorters who brought us to this price in the first place to shift the bullish market sentiment (MtGox not selling 160k bitcoins anymore) again to the bear trend. It dropped by hundreds of usd since the MtGox news.

This is so fucking obvious, lol. These motherfuckers probably thought that they will short the market to abyss and then give it the final blow with Kobayashi selling all the bitcoins in September. Looks like they got destroyed. Stop looking for explanations and conspiracies, just buy the fuck out of Bitcoin
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June 22, 2018, 01:52:24 PM

I think satoshis.place needs a prominent green dildo giving a shout out to this thread.

Hmm.

Thinking.

Too early ?

EDIT: Ever notice at tubgirl.fr, there's a literal fountain of shit, but they've blurred out the vag ? Strange folk, those Japanese.

A little bit too early... yes. Sad
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