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[jojo69]

Ready to sacrifice a Pict.

[jbreher]

There are some pretty severe security concerns around Casa Hodl at the moment.  

https://twitter.com/jwweatherman_/status/1182486419580866560?s=21

Hmmm. Lopp-Meister FTW.

I know that Lopp is CTO, but what does Meister have to do with anything related to Casa Hodl security issues?  Are you talking about Adam Meister or some other Meister?

Nope. Just Lopp. Just ‘meister’ in the generalized head honcho sense.

(glancing about and whistling nonchalantly)

Hey! Wasn’t Casa the developer of some bullet proof security protocol!?

(glancing about and whistling nonchalantly)

You still did not say who is Meister?  And who fucking gives any shits if a company fucks up their security practices? 

To quote: “Just Lopp.”

J. Rando company shitting the bed on security practices is not particularly noteworthy. When it is however a company that many in the BTC sphere look to for exemplary security templates to be implemented throughout the ecosystem, however, it might give one pause.

[HairyMaclairy]

Oh hi Jbear.  Hope you had a nice weekend.

Seeing as you raised the topic, this is a great opportunity for you to answer the question instead of continuing to avoid it.  

Please do try to respond to the question rather than raising another question or going off on a tangent.  



What is the difference between these two logos and how is not deliberately misleading / confusing to newbies ?

You have said such a practice is dishonest.  

[JayJuanGee]

Just withdrew the corn I bought earlier today. Man, feels good to see my TREZOR balance rise!

"Buy BTC, HoDL, wait, ∞!"^TM

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Edit: Took 50 minutes to confirm. Not the best performance, but the fee was quite low. All good!

As long as the fee isn’t super low use this - https://pool.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator

When we were in the last parabolic rise & Roger was spamming the network I sent a few transactions with a fairly high amount of coins & fucked up by not manually setting my fees. It was taking forever so I used the above. It’s a good service & free.

Thanks LFC, never used a Tx accelerator before, but have heard of them. Good to know that it worked when you tried it, will keep it handy.

The important thing is that, no matter how long they take, all transactions eventually confirm, which shows the super-robustness of the Bitcoin network. For all practical purposes, Bitcoin confirmations are "irreversible certainties". And way faster and cheaper than any fiat Tx...  

I had a couple transactions come back to me in 2017.... so I am not sure what can cause that because I did not do anything besides attempting to send and getting a pending transaction that ended up coming back to my wallet.

You didn't lose any coins, and that's what matters. Bitcoin is probably one of the (if not the) most robust network(s) in the world right now. Satoshi Nakamoto must be very proud of his achievement.

Go BTC, go!

You are correct that I did not lose coins when the bitcoins had come back to me, and I just sent those bitcoins a second time.

However, I did actually lose coins (or dollars, however, you want to calculate the matter) in the second situation in which the coins had gone back to the other person who was supposed to be sending coins to me.  That person did not act honestly and send me the coins a second time, even though I had given him cash, which was a fairly sizeable transaction.. I just looked it up, and it was in February 2017 and the price was a bit more than $1k per BTC. 

Anyhow, I changed my practice after that incident, and thereafter, I always waited for at least 1 confirmation when I was giving cash to someone for an in person transaction like that - especially if I did not know the person very well and the amount was fairly large.  This was a case in which I had interacted directly with the person for a decent amount of time, and perhaps even close to a year with several successful transactions, yet when push came to shove, the person did not act honestly when we discovered that the transaction had never gotten confirmed and it had gone back to him.

Live and learn, and hope NOT to repeat those kinds of mistakes, even though those kinds of mistakes can be possible and I am not even sure if the guy did anything wrong to cause the situation, he just did not do the right thing after the situation had evolved.  I had some similar mistakes, but the fact that each mistake kind of evolves in a different way, there can come a bit of costliness in various kinds of learning.

[Cryptotourist]

What else ya got?

jbreher fork - Bitcoin JB (BRH) - the real Bitcoin, closer than ever to the original Bitcoin which is not Bitcoin anymore. LUL.
If you have 1 BTC or 1 BCH or 1 BSV you get 1 BRH. If you have all three Bitcoinz, you get 3 BRH of course.

Someone slap rebal for me.

[Hueristic]

Ready to sacrifice a Pict.

Groovy.

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

If being a dick precluded hat ownership we'd all be naked from the head up.

PS. I seem to remember the distinguishing feature of the fork coin logo as tilted slightly. Do we have a new fork coin I should be aware of? Sorry I keep falling out of the loop.

[JayJuanGee]

[edited out]

If one of the other Bitcoins does indeed capture more market cap than BTC in the future, will you concede that that other fork will indeed be Bitcoin?

You cannot really believe that "the real bitcoin" is based on market cap, can you?  

‘zackly. What else you got?

I am sure that you heard of various network effects by now

Indeed. And they are all predicated upon market cap, and the irrational hype that builds around market cap.

What else ya got?

For being such a seemingly smart guy, I cannot believe that you are that fucking amazingly dumb - on an ongoing basis failing and refusing to account for reality of actual facts/logic.  

Let me see if I can 'splain little bitty to your ongoing wannabe disingenuous dumbass... or at least anyone who might get confused by your stupid-ass comment(s).

Market cap, by itself, can be manipulated - especially shorter term, so even if some people might make decisions from time to time based on market cap, if the market cap is not really giving indications of various kinds of adoptions through network effects, then there would be overreliance on the significance of that particular indicator saying anything about what is going on in bitcoin on a fundamental level or any of your shit coin comparisons that you would like to make based on some kinds of false short term pumpenings that you and your fraudulent scammy companions attempt to achieve from time to time, when they think that their money spent on scamming, pumpening, spamming or whatever will have a good effect in their hoped direction to bump their bullshit projects and to hopefully negatively affect bitcoin (or at least to provide some meaningful talking points for the disingenuous shitcoin propagandists, like ur lil selfie).

So for reference, you (and of course smarter people because you are NOT going to look at it, because you don't care about actual facts or sound logic) can look at Trace Mayer's seven network effects for starters.  https://twitter.com/tracemayer/status/934672438385954818?lang=en

I would elaborate more, but you are a fucking waste of time, jbreher.  The burden is NOT upon me to rebutt your stupid ass speculative proclamations, and your troll/shilling seems to be getting worse and worse (maybe more desperate?).. maybe based on grounds that your dumbass shitcoins - aka bcash variants (that is bcash abc and bcash sv for anyone who might not recognize my reference) continue to lose a lot of value, especially when they are measured relative to bitcoin.   You fucktwat.

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

^Oh. This is a fork of the fork. I see. Thanks Jay.

[JayJuanGee]

There are some pretty severe security concerns around Casa Hodl at the moment.  

https://twitter.com/jwweatherman_/status/1182486419580866560?s=21

Hmmm. Lopp-Meister FTW.

I know that Lopp is CTO, but what does Meister have to do with anything related to Casa Hodl security issues?  Are you talking about Adam Meister or some other Meister?

Nope. Just Lopp. Just ‘meister’ in the generalized head honcho sense.

(glancing about and whistling nonchalantly)

Hey! Wasn’t Casa the developer of some bullet proof security protocol!?

(glancing about and whistling nonchalantly)

You still did not say who is Meister?  And who fucking gives any shits if a company fucks up their security practices? 

To quote: “Just Lopp.”

J. Rando company shitting the bed on security practices is not particularly noteworthy. When it is however a company that many in the BTC sphere look to for exemplary security templates to be implemented throughout the ecosystem, however, it might give one pause.

Surely you are grasping at straws here in your attempt to get some kind of meaning of the failings of a company in bitcoin... Who gives any shits... the failings and flaws of individual companies, even if they might have had a lot of respect in the bitcoin community does not necessarily reflect on bitcoin fundamentals, as you seem to be wanting to suggest to logically follow from your continuing vague-ass nonsensical assertions.

[JayJuanGee]

Oh hi Jbear.  Hope you had a nice weekend.

Seeing as you raised the topic, this is a great opportunity for you to answer the question instead of continuing to avoid it.  

Please do try to respond to the question rather than raising another question or going off on a tangent.  





What is the difference between these two logos and how is not deliberately misleading / confusing to newbies ?

You have said such a practice is dishonest.  

Hairy and jbreher swinging in a tree

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hahahahahahaha


I admit that I am "a bit" - in the micpeep sense -  jealous.   #nohomo     

[HairyMaclairy]

^Oh. This is a fork of the fork. I see. Thanks Jay.

Below are the logos of three completely separate and different coins. Your confusion is understandable because I can’t tell the difference either.  

Wise Jbear will be along shortly to explain how these are completely different logos and not at all misleading.

Any moment now...

[JayJuanGee]

^Oh. This is a fork of the fork. I see. Thanks Jay.

That's true and the various diptwat bitcoin wannabes change their logos from time to time and also their stupid-ass deceptive marketing ploys too.

So what's going on with you, BMG?

Are you coming back to any kind of financial sanity when it comes to moderating your bitcoin involvement, yet?

You likely recall that I sometimes had been insensitive to some of your trials and tribulations ---- or at least towards that fuck, Rosewater.... hahahahahaha

Anyhow, are you actually figuring out some meaningful personal balance that will help to better prepare you (both financially and psychologically) for either bitcoin price direction from here on out?  I personally believe if you get the finances in place, then the psychology should be able to follow, but I also recognize (no bad intentions meant) that it is NOT possible to turn a pickle back into a cucumber if such a thing has taken place.. so there is that, too.   

[jbreher]

Oh hi Jbear.  Hope you had a nice weekend.

Seeing as you raised the topic, this is a great opportunity for you to answer the question instead of continuing to avoid it.  

Please do try to respond to the question rather than raising another question or going off on a tangent.  



What is the difference between these two logos and how is not deliberately misleading / confusing to newbies ?

You have said such a practice is dishonest.  

I have said no such thing. What I have said is that the other Bitcoin forks have as high a claim upon any branding as does the BTC fork.

You ignorant sot.

Now after misrepresenting my position yet again, how ‘bout you respond to my questions?

[HairyMaclairy]

I believe what you said was:

You forgot the bit where the big blockers try to fool newbies into thinking Bcash lol and BSV are Bitcoin.

Quite a different proposition than trying to fool newbies into thinking BCH or BSV are BTC. But nobody is doing that. That would be dishonest.

Please let me know if I have misquoted you or misrepresented your position. 

How are the three near identical logos not trying to fool newbies into thinking BCH or BSV are BTC?

Please address the question directly and do try not to go off on a tangent.

[JayJuanGee]

[edited out]

You ignorant sot.

"Sot" rhymes with "diptwat."


I think that you are stealing from me,,,,,,,,, you, you, you.......   stealer...

well you are used to that kind of behavior from your bedfellows.

[Hueristic]

[edited out]

You ignorant sot.

"Sot" rhymes with "diptwat."


I think that you are stealing from me,,,,,,,,, you, you, you.......   stealer...

well you are used to that kind of behavior from your bedfellows.

While catching up I have noticed something.


JJG has finally found the font size button and can't stop using it!

[JayJuanGee]

While catching up I have noticed something.


JJG has finally found the font size button and can't stop using it!

I resemble that statement.

You fuck.

@Arriemoller: Almost like saying "fuck you fatty", but not.   

[Hueristic]

You fuck.

;P

[Icygreen]

Oh hi Jbear.  Hope you had a nice weekend.

Seeing as you raised the topic, this is a great opportunity for you to answer the question instead of continuing to avoid it.  

Please do try to respond to the question rather than raising another question or going off on a tangent.  



What is the difference between these two logos and how is not deliberately misleading / confusing to newbies ?

You have said such a practice is dishonest.  

I have said no such thing. What I have said is that the other Bitcoin forks have as high a claim upon any branding as does the BTC fork.

You ignorant sot.

Now after misrepresenting my position yet again, how ‘bout you respond to my questions?