aminorex
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Sine secretum non libertas
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February 21, 2014, 06:11:32 AM |
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aminorex
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Activity: 1596
Merit: 1031
Sine secretum non libertas
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February 21, 2014, 06:15:00 AM |
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Yes so? There are humans controlling them.
Or...sheep?
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JorgeStolfi
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February 21, 2014, 06:16:14 AM |
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OK, again, here is what I would do if I had to safely store several hundred thousand bitcoins that my clients gave me for safekeeping.
First, I would create a dozen new addresses and distribute the bitcoins evenly among them. I do not believe in trapdoor functions, and I know what NSA did to that random number generator; so I instead of any "modern" encryption I would use the old and guaranteed one-time-pad method. I would generate a file of truly random bits (say, extracted from the microphone signal), and XOR it with the private keys. Then I would copy the result to a pen drive, check that the copy succeded, safely remove the pendrive (see, I learned my lesson!) I would repeat with a second pendrive and give it to my partner. Then each of us would go to a different bank, on separate cars, and store his pendrive in a safe deposit box. Only then I would go back and reformat the hard drive of my computer.
Do I really need to add the "stupid smiley" here?)
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OldGeek
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Blitz:The price affects the perception of the news
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February 21, 2014, 06:16:33 AM |
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The whalebots are coming.
I lol'd at that. Thanks.
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ScrapOfCat
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February 21, 2014, 06:19:17 AM |
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The whalebots are coming.
I lol'd at that. Thanks. 
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OldGeek
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February 21, 2014, 06:20:50 AM |
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^^ That's nice as well. 
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medialab101
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February 21, 2014, 06:36:10 AM |
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Was just about to post that... Oh, how I want to believe
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Davyd05
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February 21, 2014, 06:38:22 AM |
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Was just about to post that... Oh, how I want to believe I would assume it can be back checked somewhat.. and or dis proven pretty quickly though I do recognize the ntxid syntax from one of their statements.
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aminorex
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Activity: 1596
Merit: 1031
Sine secretum non libertas
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February 21, 2014, 06:42:19 AM |
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OK, again, here is what I would do if I had to safely store several hundred thousand bitcoins that my clients gave me for safekeeping.
First, I would create a dozen new addresses and distribute the bitcoins evenly among them. I do not believe in trapdoor functions, and I know what NSA did to that random number generator; so I instead of any "modern" encryption I would use the old and guaranteed one-time-pad method. I would generate a file of truly random bits (say, extracted from the microphone signal), and XOR it with the private keys. Then I would copy the result to a pen drive, check that the copy succeded, safely remove the pendrive (see, I learned my lesson!) I would repeat with a second pendrive and give it to my partner. Then each of us would go to a different bank, on separate cars, and store his pendrive in a safe deposit box. Only then I would go back and reformat the hard drive of my computer.
Do I really need to add the "stupid smiley" here?)
Those are high security steps. If you were obsessive about security, a good prior step would be to build a fresh vm with a restrictive firewall on which to perform the manipulations. A good posterior step would be to break up both the pad and the keys using turbo codes and distribute them over a number of pendrives, such that e.g. any three of nine suffice to reconstitute the data, and treat them similarly. In a business, however, security measures must be designed to optimize under constraints, requirements, which these extremist schemata do not accomodate.
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JorgeStolfi
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February 21, 2014, 06:45:33 AM |
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Those are high security steps. [ ... ]
But I suppose that you noticed the crucial missing step in that recipe, right? 
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OldGeek
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February 21, 2014, 06:48:12 AM |
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Those are high security steps. [ ... ]
But I suppose that you noticed the crucial missing step in that recipe, right?  Can I be your partner? I promise that I won't rob you!
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JorgeStolfi
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February 21, 2014, 06:49:24 AM |
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Can I be your partner? I promise that I won't rob you!
I am 100% certain that you won't. 
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OldGeek
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February 21, 2014, 06:51:16 AM |
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^^ lol
Back to btc. I'm thinking that I smell a trap.
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ChartBuddy
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February 21, 2014, 07:02:56 AM |
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koryu
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February 21, 2014, 07:10:03 AM |
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^^ lol
Back to btc. I'm thinking that I smell a trap.
bought my btc for 540-580 last week, i thought it was a nice deal at this time, now they are back down at this price  gox price make you feel like that 570 is stil expensive. they do a good job...
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OldGeek
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February 21, 2014, 07:22:28 AM |
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^^ lol
Back to btc. I'm thinking that I smell a trap.
bought my btc for 540-580 last week, i thought it was a nice deal at this time, now they are back down at this price  gox price make you feel like that 570 is stil expensive. they do a good job... If it makes you feel any better, I think you'll be alright. You may have to wait a while though.
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Davyd05
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February 21, 2014, 07:23:39 AM |
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We starting a pool on the next update time frame from gox Friday 7pm Japan?
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OldGeek
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February 21, 2014, 07:26:28 AM |
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We starting a pool on the next update time frame from gox Friday 7pm Japan?
Do you mean a real update or the science fiction we've been getting?
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Davyd05
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February 21, 2014, 07:37:20 AM |
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We starting a pool on the next update time frame from gox Friday 7pm Japan?
Do you mean a real update or the science fiction we've been getting? To be honest I consider it to be accurate ... just not timely..
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