... or go down the drain before that, if they fail to match btc's adoption or recognition history.
There strongest marketing ploy seems to be to continue to have the word bitcoin in their name, and it could take a real god damned long time for public to wrap their minds around the idea... just think about how many dumb people there are in the world. i am not trying to be denigrating, because, I consider myself as that kind of dumb, too. If I recall correctly, it took me a week or so to wrap my mind around the idea of divisibility, and so often we believe what we are told, and I am guilty of the same (I am thinking in terms of how much I had been mislead about what should be a straightforward topic, nutrition.. ).
Sometimes, once we "know" about a topic, we realize how dumb we had been about that topic, and sometimes it can take a real long time, and even really smart people can be really dumb about certain topics, and that is not denigrating, it is reality.
In sum, lots of potential for a lot of scam coins for a real long time, whether they have bitcoin in their name or they have other purported bitcoin 2.0 aspects contained within them, such as the purported powers of "programable money" etc... It is going to take a real long time to realize and recognize the value of actual bitcoin, in contrast to the variety of innovative snake oils that play upon the various ideas and memes of what makes bitcoin bitcoin. Remember jbreher asserting dipshit stuff about the more bitcoin of bitcoins, and he was not even referring to bitcoin, so there is a lot of convincing bullshit artists out there spouting out ideas that sound right, but are ultimately misleading people into mal-investments.. and everyone has to choose for themselves which means a whole hell of a lot of a long time for value flowing to play out.
....... the real value of the BTC is definitely BTC+BCH+BSV (+BTG and other offsprings), so they say, which is at least true for unclaimed coins mined before the chainsplit(s).......
Seems like a real erroneous way of thinking about these matters.
Who fucking cares if some coins share a transactional history with bitcoin? It is nearly irrelevant. It does not mean much if anything in terms of actual value. We should have learned that, after the bcash fork.
Sure it took a while to figure out how the whole matter of the bcash fork played out, maybe even a year afterwards, but still by mid-to-late 2018 we already knew that bcash and any other forkening of bitcoin became an altcoin on its own or an attack vector towards BTC.. the market cap value of that project is apart and separate from bitcoin.. they are only attempting to play upon bitcoin for their perceived value... which is based on full phoney baloney...
In other words, unless the forkenings of bitcoin are able to attain consensus for bitcoin network effects to move over to their chain, they are nothing but an altcoin, and should not be considered as anything more than an altcoin, even if they have bitcoin in their name and even if they are mooching off of bitcoin's transactional history.