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Author Topic: [1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool  (Read 2032331 times)
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July 16, 2013, 08:56:24 PM
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Can someone explain what is going on? Please! Pretty please!  Undecided

Can you find your payout address here:
http://blockexplorer.com/block/000000000000000a6913ee4ada3b92bed9f1398ad8f22f4f944a5d5593197d68

if it is listed in the above link, the payout exists, you just have to find where it went in your wallet. Also double check your payout addresses in p2pool, make sure that there isn't a typo.

you won't show up in p2pool-nodes.info unless you have a well connected public node. If you do have a public node, would you mind sharing the IP address so we can check out the stats and configuration?

No, it does not exist in this payout round, all the settings are untouched. I got payment of todays block, after that one....

Were you mining long enough to get a share on the previous block?  What is your average share time, and can you review the historical charts to make sure you found a share?  Alternatively, if the node is on a public ip/port share them and we can take a look.

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July 16, 2013, 09:07:50 PM
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I think he already figured out he was forked

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July 16, 2013, 09:32:58 PM
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I think he already figured out he was forked

That was a different guy, and this guy says he's been using 13.1.

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July 16, 2013, 10:46:39 PM
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Yes I was mining 24/7, the whole time. And when the block is found I got nothing and p2pool continued like nothing happened. I was on the public node but suddenly I am not anymore, today I got the payment from the last blockbut not from the one before - the long one... I am using 13.1 and this is wallet 16F9t8PKoohyhgfgU1iRe83RPvMrLCzJYM. I think that I have been hardforked...

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July 16, 2013, 10:47:51 PM
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Or you may used a compromised node

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July 16, 2013, 10:53:20 PM
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Or you may used a compromised node
What you mean? I started the p2pool then cgminer, like usual, and that's it...

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July 16, 2013, 11:01:43 PM
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But you said public node

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July 16, 2013, 11:19:14 PM
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But you said public node

Yes I did! My IP was showing on the public IP node before the long block. During the long block my IP wasn't showing there, neither do now. I didn't fiddle with the settings, but now i remember that i did installed some MS updates and rebooted the PC during the long block. But after that everything worked "normal". Started p2pool and cgminer, as usual, and that's it!
How can I tell if I am doing it right, right now!?

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July 16, 2013, 11:37:02 PM
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You don't have to have it public.
Just look at the homepage, make sure there's shares, btc and your address.
Like mine

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July 17, 2013, 07:23:05 AM
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the whole v11 nodes connecting then me requesting parent shares from like 10 nodes every few seconds is causing some issues i think

so i set it to 4 incoming,  usually 2 or 3 connect right away, hopefully last one or so won't be v11

i put a log file of the action up temporarily at www.nogleg.com/swank.txt

i think I got all the IPs,  guess it's not a huge deal

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July 17, 2013, 09:23:53 AM
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why is the diff so high in version 13.1?

9k is a little bit high isn't it?

I don't get any shares. What can I do?
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July 17, 2013, 10:49:01 AM
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why is the diff so high in version 13.1?

After the cutover, the targets for finding shares is now only one per 30 seconds instead of one per 10 seconds.  That is accomplished by making share difficulty is 3x higher.

I don't get any shares. What can I do?

To get shares more often, the only thing you can do is add more hashrate.  If you can't or don't want to add more hashrate, then the only thing you can do is be content with the increased variance.  In the long run, you'll earn the same as before, it will just be more spikey (you'll find a share 3x less often, but each share will be worth 3x as much).

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July 17, 2013, 11:15:13 AM
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Ahh, this is BAD, I was sure that chain lengh will be change too, that payout last long for up to 3 days. But it is NOT.
Now small miners are killed for p2pool.

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July 17, 2013, 11:24:53 AM
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Ahh, this is BAD, iw as sure that chain lengh will be change too, that payout last long for up to 3 days. But it is NOT.
Now small miners are killed for p2pool.

The chain is the same number of shares as before, but because shares are found 3x less often, that means that the chain is 3 times longer in real-word time (3 days instead of 1 day).

Like it or not, the bitcoin mining community is in the midst of a transition to ASICs and the result is that small miners (GPU miners) are going to be left behind, no matter what pool you are on.

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July 17, 2013, 11:44:53 AM
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Odd, if it IS 3 days on 30sec longpool share diff should be same like in 1 day/10 sec...
What changed?

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July 17, 2013, 11:45:03 AM
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Ahh, this is BAD, iw as sure that chain lengh will be change too, that payout last long for up to 3 days. But it is NOT.
Now small miners are killed for p2pool.

The chain is the same number of shares as before, but because shares are found 3x less often, that means that the chain is 3 times longer in real-word time (3 days instead of 1 day).

Like it or not, the bitcoin mining community is in the midst of a transition to ASICs and the result is that small miners (GPU miners) are going to be left behind, no matter what pool you are on.

you're right, it is 3 days EXCEPT spread is 3. so if time to block is 20 hours, shares only will last for 60

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3x longer shares = 3x higher difficulty = shares last 3x longer = same payout per share per before, just find them less often and they stick around for longer

EDIT: what chaged - shares are 3x harder to find and live for 3x longer, although spread is 3 - and time to block is like 20 hours, so shares last 60 hours (instead of 72)
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July 17, 2013, 12:42:39 PM
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So that means I am paid three times für one share?
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July 17, 2013, 01:40:45 PM
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So that means I am paid three times für one share?

You are paid for each share every time a block is found as long as the share is still "active".  When the pool is lucky, you'll get paid for your share many times.  When the pool is unlucky, you'll get paid fewer times or not at all if the pool is very unlucky.  Because your shares stay active for approx 3x as long now, you'll get paid for your share 3x as many times (on average).

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July 17, 2013, 02:27:58 PM
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So that means I am paid three times für one share?

You are paid for each share every time a block is found as long as the share is still "active".  When the pool is lucky, you'll get paid for your share many times.  When the pool is unlucky, you'll get paid fewer times or not at all if the pool is very unlucky.  Because your shares stay active for approx 3x as long now, you'll get paid for your share 3x as many times (on average).

maqifrnswa is right though, with SPREAD=3 the "paid 3x as many times" is only when p2pool has relatively low hashrate, we get 3 blocks in less than 3 days now.

With the current hashrate you should expect your shares to be paid for 3 times each.

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July 17, 2013, 04:32:42 PM
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why is the diff so high in version 13.1?

9k is a little bit high isn't it?

I don't get any shares. What can I do?

I think it has to do with the new “dust payout” elimination feature. It raises the difficulty enough to minimize transaction fees when spending mined coins. It appears you may be able to reduce the share difficulty again by adding “+n” to the miner username, where n is the desired share difficulty. However, you may incur heavy transaction fees in the future when you go to spend the mined coins.

Maybe someone can confirm this for sure. I've been finding it difficult to find detailed p2pool documentation lately for some reason.

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