Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated: Guess who is Sicker?

[gabmen]

Look at the number of epidemics in Africa where medicine is poorly developed and many people are not vaccinated and in the West where almost everyone is vaccinated. Isn't that a proof h that vaccines work.

There can be no doubt regarding this. Millions of people die every year from diseases such as malaria, typhoid and cholera, for which the vaccinations are available. If vaccination was universal, then these people could have been saved.

I agree. people can say that vaccines tamper the body's natural way of healing and working but good that you pointed out the comparison between vaccinated countries and nonvaccinated ones. there shouldn't be much argument about the importance of vaccines anymore

[tvbcof]

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My grandfather died at the age of 60 from lung defficience and all doctors agree on the fact that his smoking habit was greatly responsible for it. You telling me that all the doctors are wrong because YOU are healthy?

That's just too stupid, I can't bear with you people. Go die in your own corner.

Jesus man, I just got done saying that smoking is obviously bad for a person's health in the text you snipped.  The actual nicotine may or may not be a positive depending on what is important to a person.

Big Brother and Big Pharma love you bro.  I would be fine with you doing everything they tell you to, but when you are sick all the time they are going to come to me with a gun and try to make me pay your bill.

[iluvpie60]

Very interesting data. I love data. Much more preferable than some bs the news puts out. Seeing the data and the study methods released is a great thing to do so people can understand what happened and if thry can replicate the study using same methods.

[tvbcof]

Very interesting data. I love data. Much more preferable than some bs the news puts out. Seeing the data and the study methods released is a great thing to do so people can understand what happened and if thry can replicate the study using same methods.

It is really heartening to see someone who understands the fundamentals of 'legacy' science.

Actually, the real power of science would be to replicate the results using different and un-related methods as well.  Reproducible using the same methods is key, but only for verification of a method.  Arriving at a like result by use of a different method us key to progressing an idea from the hypothesis <--> theory --> fact chain.

Through it all, if one sees data and methods being hidden by any means, it is the stench of a rat.  The 'global warming' junk science is rife with such fraud.  In vaccine-land it is the same observation but the methods lean more heavily on formally legalistic frameworks more than via academic fraud.

[BADecker]

It's probably the cigarettes. Probably smoking is killing off disease, and that is why the FDA is trying hard to ban it.

You know...

At this point, after all of my research, I actually consider it as likely as not that anything which, according to 'the authorities', I'm not supposed to do is actually healthy.  At least in ways that are important to me.  Salt is a good example.  Lots of dairy products and meat another.  As for nicotine, I'll bet that it increases intellectual ability, and especially in old age (thus offsetting all of the hard work of getting fluoride in the water.)  I heavily abuse all of these substances and am one of the most healthy people I know of.

I love this argument.
"I'm eating salt meat and fat but I'm incredibly healthy, explain that!"
Well you're lucky and that's great for you.

Accidents happen.   

[sportis]

Do we really have to believe that is a scientific reliable and independent research? Looking at the following paragraphs of the paper

1. Potential limitations: They can't approve any causal association between health and vaccinated children
2. Conclusions: Authors admit that this study can't prove any causal interpretation
3. Funding sources: One of the supporters was the Children’s Medical Safety Research Institute

Therefore, (1) and (2) and the fact that is a pilot study means that statistical results are limited to this study only and we can't say anything about the entire population. More over (3) shows that is difficult somebody to believe that this study wasn't influenced by the intention of those who funded it.

For every interested member, let's read and another option of this kind of studies,  Science-Based Medicine site.

[BADecker]

Do we really have to believe that is a scientific reliable and independent research? Looking at the following paragraphs of the paper

1. Potential limitations: They can't approve any causal association between health and vaccinated children
2. Conclusions: Authors admit that this study can't prove any causal interpretation
3. Funding sources: One of the supporters was the Children’s Medical Safety Research Institute

Therefore, (1) and (2) and the fact that is a pilot study means that statistical results are limited to this study only and we can't say anything about the entire population. More over (3) shows that is difficult somebody to believe that this study wasn't influenced by the intention of those who funded it.

For every interested member, let's read and another option of this kind of studies,  Science-Based Medicine site.

The questions I think of are:
1: Where are the medical studies?
2. Why pick on these studies in such detail?

Somebody has to make a start. Let's do it again and do it right. But it seems the medical would rather rely on what would be termed "past advertising hype" if vaccination is dangerous.

We aren't dealing with a peek at some wild studies. We are dealing with a lot more than that. Vaccines can't be made safe just because there is some logic against a couple of studies.

[Malsetid]

I don't know how accurate this information is, but just take a look at those children from countries like Africa where vaccination is not that common. We can't deny the fact that vaccination has been a medical breakthrough that helped children avoid certain disease that have been fatal in the pre-vaccination age

[BADecker]

I don't know how accurate this information is, but just take a look at those children from countries like Africa where vaccination is not that common. We can't deny the fact that vaccination has been a medical breakthrough that helped children avoid certain disease that have been fatal in the pre-vaccination age

Until we do a comparison of the whole life-style, we can't come to an accurate conclusion.

In addition, consider how diseases in hospitals change so that they become immune to antibiotics, etc.  This happens in people, as well. All the medical has to do is to wait until they see the disease dying off by itself. Then they come in and vaccinate, and claim that they did it, when it would have happened anyway.

[BADecker]

Shocking new study shows chemo kills half of cancer patients, not cancer itself

A new landmark study found that up to 50 percent of people who receive chemotherapy are killed by the treatment, not cancer itself. For the first time, researchers from Public Health England and Cancer Research U.K. examined the numbers of cancer patients who died within 30 days of starting chemotherapy.

Chemotherapy is an invasive and toxic treatment to kill cancer cells. Unfortunately, chemo doesn't differentiate between a cancerous or a healthy cell. As a result, it kills all living matter on its way. Furthermore, chemo drugs are known to damage the immune system. This makes cancer patients more vulnerable to infections, which may contribute to the high mortality rates.
 

Chemo kills within the first 30 days

The study, which was published in The Lancet Oncology medical journal, looked at more than 23,000 women with breast cancer and nearly 10,000 men with lung cancer who underwent chemotherapy in 2014. Of those treated with chemotherapy, 1,383 died within 30 days.

As reported by the Telegraph, on average 8.4 percent of lung cancer patients and 2.4 percent of breast cancer patients died within a month. That number, however, depended hugely on the hospital.

The mortality rate at Lancashire Teaching Hospitals for those undergoing palliative chemotherapy for lung cancer, for instance, was 28 percent. But in Milton Keynes the death rate for lung cancer treatment went up to 50.9 percent.

According to Dr. Jem Rashbass, Cancer Lead for Public Health England, chemotherapy is a crucial part of cancer treatment. He, however, admitted that chemotherapy drugs are potent chemical substances with significant side effects.

He further noted that getting the balance right to aggressively treat patients can be hard. Therefore, hospitals with death rates outside the expected range have had the findings shared with them. Also, they have been asked to review their practice and data.
 

Doctors should be more careful about pushing toxic treatment

Furthermore, the authors of the study have advised physicians to exercise more caution in selecting which patients should receive chemotherapy. They noted that some people, such as older and more infirm patients, might be better off without it.

"I think it's important to make patients aware that there are potentially life threatening downsides to chemotherapy. And doctors should be more careful about who they treat with chemotherapy," said Professor David Dodwell, Institute of Oncology, St James Hospital, Leeds, UK.

All hospitals involved stated that since they received the notification of the high death rates, they have reviewed the information and remain certain chemotherapy was safe in all administered cases.

While chemotherapy has been used as a cancer treatment for decades, scientists are still looking for safer and more effective treatments or a possible cure. In May 2016, a study conducted at the Duke University Medical Center found that an antibody, developed from the human body's immune system, appeared to specifically target cancer cells without doing damage to healthy cells.

Read more at http://www.naturalnews.com/055365_chemotherapy_cancer_treatment_patient_fatalities.html.

[BADecker]

Purging the body of 'retired' cells could reverse aging, study shows

Purging retired cells from the body has been shown to undo the ravages of old age in a study that raises the prospect of new life-extending treatments .

When mice were treated with a substance designed to sweep away cells that have entered a dormant state due to DNA damage their fur regrew, kidney function improved and they were able to run twice as far as untreated elderly animals.

The team are now assessing whether the mice also live longer and are planning a series of safety studies in humans with the ultimate goal of testing whether getting rid of so-called senescent cells could help reverse a range of age-related disorders.

The discovery adds to a wave of new findings hinting at the possibility of a future in which doctors can treat ageing itself, rather than trying to combat the host of diseases that come along with it.

Read more at https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/mar/23/purging-the-body-of-retired-cells-could-reverse-ageing-study-shows.

[GG_monster]

Shocking new study shows chemo kills half of cancer patients, not cancer itself

A new landmark study found that up to 50 percent of people who receive chemotherapy are killed by the treatment, not cancer itself. For the first time, researchers from Public Health England and Cancer Research U.K. examined the numbers of cancer patients who died within 30 days of starting chemotherapy.

Chemotherapy is an invasive and toxic treatment to kill cancer cells. Unfortunately, chemo doesn't differentiate between a cancerous or a healthy cell. As a result, it kills all living matter on its way. Furthermore, chemo drugs are known to damage the immune system. This makes cancer patients more vulnerable to infections, which may contribute to the high mortality rates.
 

Chemo kills within the first 30 days

The study, which was published in The Lancet Oncology medical journal, looked at more than 23,000 women with breast cancer and nearly 10,000 men with lung cancer who underwent chemotherapy in 2014. Of those treated with chemotherapy, 1,383 died within 30 days.

As reported by the Telegraph, on average 8.4 percent of lung cancer patients and 2.4 percent of breast cancer patients died within a month. That number, however, depended hugely on the hospital.

The mortality rate at Lancashire Teaching Hospitals for those undergoing palliative chemotherapy for lung cancer, for instance, was 28 percent. But in Milton Keynes the death rate for lung cancer treatment went up to 50.9 percent.

According to Dr. Jem Rashbass, Cancer Lead for Public Health England, chemotherapy is a crucial part of cancer treatment. He, however, admitted that chemotherapy drugs are potent chemical substances with significant side effects.

He further noted that getting the balance right to aggressively treat patients can be hard. Therefore, hospitals with death rates outside the expected range have had the findings shared with them. Also, they have been asked to review their practice and data.
 

Doctors should be more careful about pushing toxic treatment

Furthermore, the authors of the study have advised physicians to exercise more caution in selecting which patients should receive chemotherapy. They noted that some people, such as older and more infirm patients, might be better off without it.

"I think it's important to make patients aware that there are potentially life threatening downsides to chemotherapy. And doctors should be more careful about who they treat with chemotherapy," said Professor David Dodwell, Institute of Oncology, St James Hospital, Leeds, UK.

All hospitals involved stated that since they received the notification of the high death rates, they have reviewed the information and remain certain chemotherapy was safe in all administered cases.

While chemotherapy has been used as a cancer treatment for decades, scientists are still looking for safer and more effective treatments or a possible cure. In May 2016, a study conducted at the Duke University Medical Center found that an antibody, developed from the human body's immune system, appeared to specifically target cancer cells without doing damage to healthy cells.

Read more at http://www.naturalnews.com/055365_chemotherapy_cancer_treatment_patient_fatalities.html.

Doctors do not benefit from discouraging patients from chemotherapy, because it costs a lot every year to earn billions.

[Sithara007]

Doctors do not benefit from discouraging patients from chemotherapy, because it costs a lot every year to earn billions.

Cancer treatment is one of the most profitable sectors for the pharma cartels. Despite decades of research, we still don't have a drug which can save terminal stage cancer patients. The treatment costs a lot, but it is never going to save the life of the patient in the long term.

[matuson]

Doctors do not benefit from discouraging patients from chemotherapy, because it costs a lot every year to earn billions.

Cancer treatment is one of the most profitable sectors for the pharma cartels. Despite decades of research, we still don't have a drug which can save terminal stage cancer patients. The treatment costs a lot, but it is never going to save the life of the patient in the long term.

This is because the medicine goes the wrong way. If to treat the disease in the later stages does not work then you need to concentrate on diagnosing cancer in the early stages of its development. Money thrown at treatment should be directed to a free annual medical examination of the population. It will bring more tangible results in the fight against cancer.

[Seram1]

Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated:
Guess who is Sicker?


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It's never been done before. The first-of-its-kind study of vaccinated vs. unvaccinated. American homeschooled children shows who is really ailing…and parents should be worried.

Something is wrong with America's children. They are sick – allergic, asthmatic, anxious, autoimmune, autistic, hyperactive, distracted and learning disabled. Thirty-two million American children – a full 43% of them – suffer from at least one of 20 chronic illnesses not including obesity. Across the board, once rare pediatric disorders from autism and ADD to Type 1 diabetes and Tourette's syndrome are soaring, though few studies pool the data. Compared to their parents, children today are four times more likely to have a chronic illness. And while their grandparents might never have swallowed a pill as children, the current generation of kids is a pharmaceutical sales rep's dream come true: More than one million American children under five years old takes a psychiatric drug. More than 8.3 million kids under 17 have consumed psychiatric drugs, and in any given month one in four is taking at least one prescription drug for something.

Fast food, bad genes, too much TV, video games, pesticides, plastics – name the environmental factor and it has been implicated in the surge of sickness, although none adequately explains the scale or scope of the epidemic. There is one exposure, however, that has evaded the search, despite that children have received it by direct injection in steadily accumulating doses far beyond anything past generations ever saw: 50 doses of 14 vaccines by age six, 69 doses of 16 pharmaceutical vaccines containing powerfully immune-altering ingredients by age 18.

We're assured vaccines are "safe and effective" even though public health officials acknowledge they sometimes have serious side-effects including death and despite the troubling fact that no long-term study of their effects on overall health has ever been conducted.  Remarkably, not a single published study has ever compared vaccinated kids to unvaccinated kids to see who is healthier years after the shots. Until now.

A pilot study of 666 homeschooled six to 12-year-olds from four American states published on April 27th in the Journal of Translational Sciences, compared 261 unvaccinated children with 405 partially or fully vaccinated children, and assessed their overall health based on their mothers' reports of vaccinations and physician-diagnosed illnesses. What it found about increases in immune-mediated diseases like allergies and neurodevelopmental diseases including autism, should make all parents think twice before they ever vaccinate again:

*Vaccinated children were more than three times as likely to be diagnosed on the Autism Spectrum (OR 4.3)

*Vaccinated children were 30-fold more likely to be diagnosed with allergic rhinitis (hay fever) than non-vaccinated children

* Vaccinated children were 22-fold more likely to require an allergy medication than unvaccinated children

*Vaccinated children had more than quadruple the risk of being diagnosed with a learning disability than unvaccinated children (OR 5.2)

Vaccine ingredients are known to cause brain damage. Robert Kennedy Jr. has been highlighting the dangers of mercury as thimerosal used as a preservative in vaccines and its relationship to autism.


Read more at http://info.cmsri.org/the-driven-researcher-blog/vaccinated-vs.-unvaccinated-guess-who-is-sicker.

I also feel for my child

The vaccine helps my child's immunity so that my child rarely chokes disease.
 

[tvbcof]

I also feel for my child

The vaccine helps my child's immunity so that my child rarely chokes disease.
 

I hear people say that they would rather have their kid have autism or allergies than chicken pox.  It sounds like a joke but it doesn't seem to be with some people!

I also hear people with a straight face say that it is worth dropping a few IQ points to have good teeth so they favor fluoridation of water.  Here again I could not believe what I was hearing.

I really don't think that people were this retarded back in my day (now around 50-ish.)  Perhaps they were and I didn't notice, but I don't think so.

[BADecker]

DO YOU WANT TO CURE TOENAIL FUNGUS FAST?

Warning! The Real Cases Featured In This Documentary
Can Be Disturbing.
Viewer Discretion Is Advised.

“Her liver is failing, unless we can find a match, she’s not going to make it” said the doctor.

Those cold, hard, brutal words hit me like a ton of bricks.

 I stood there…speechless…my eyes going back and forth between the doctor and Caroline, my wife, who was lying unconscious on the hospital bed.

“Wh..Wh…What are you saying? She’s going to die from a toenail fungus infection? Isn’t anything you can do?”

“I could put her on a different treatment, but I’m afraid her liver won’t be able to handle it. We’ll just have to wait and see.” said the doctor.

I felt my knees going weak…how am I going to explain this to the kids?

How am I going to look into their eyes and tell them mommy’s not coming home…

What’s going to happen to all the plans we had together….to our future….to that trip to Bali we planned for our 10th anniversary.

I kneeled by the side of the bed…and took her hand in my hand….tears were running down my cheeks….

I was ashamed that I didn’t realized sooner what a real threat this infection was.

Embarrassed because I believed the doctors when they told us the drugs will help, that it was nothing to worry about, “it’s just a minor infection.“

My world was falling apart right in front of my helpless eyes…

In the span of 6 months she went from an energetic 33 years old to being bedridden and needing a vital transplant.

So why am I sharing this story with you?

...

So I really must warn you:
Don’t Take Any Prescription Anti-Fungal Medication
Until You See This

...

Most people don’t know this, but the gut is where over 80% of your immune system draws its power from.

Our gut is like a micro-wild west town, where good bacteria and bad bacteria play cowboys and Indians.

In order for our immune system to be efficient, the good guys need to win the fight. Unfortunately, swallowing a bunch of antibiotics prescribed for a condition that doesn’t exit…it only adds gasoline to the fire.

The fungus sabotages your immune system and you end up on the hospital bed with septicemia, meningitis or worse!

And to add insult to injury the two most prescribed antifungal drugs out there: Lamisil & Sporanox are responsible for a long trail of dead bodies that pharmaceutical companies are desperately trying to hide.

Did you know that Lamisil caused death or severe complications in many toenail fungus patients?

According to the FDA, about half the patients reported onset of liver failure, within the first weeks of starting a treatment with Lamisil.

...

Can you see the insanity in prescribing these drugs to millions of patients?

Lamisil and Sporanox are meant to kill toenail fungus, but instead of that, they kill the patient.

It’s like using explosives to clear your home of pests!

These pills go directly in your bloodstream and poison your entire body

Toenail fungus patients are prescribed Lamisil and Sporanox for 6-9 months

They have a 60% success rate but damage your body 100% of the time.

But what your doctor forgot to tell you is that even if you survive the full treatment, toenail fungus returns in 75% of the cases!

And it gets even worse: at least half of the toenail fungus patients who took these drugs reported addiction.

This is called the “fungus drug addiction” and it’s a well-known problem among toenail fungus sufferers.

And don’t get me started on the last so-called “miracle” treatment: laser therapy.

It costs $500 per session, you need multiple sessions to get it cured and it doesn’t even guarantee you’ll be 100% cured.

...

Read more at http://japanesetoenailfunguscode.com/dpt_c_t/?subid4=dpt&subid5=i1_t&aff_id=2714&subid=w3JAPFVTUKTBOVH5H12A46DC.

[GreenBits]

DO YOU WANT TO CURE TOENAIL FUNGUS FAST?

Warning! The Real Cases Featured In This Documentary
Can Be Disturbing.
Viewer Discretion Is Advised.

“Her liver is failing, unless we can find a match, she’s not going to make it” said the doctor.

Those cold, hard, brutal words hit me like a ton of bricks.

 I stood there…speechless…my eyes going back and forth between the doctor and Caroline, my wife, who was lying unconscious on the hospital bed.

“Wh..Wh…What are you saying? She’s going to die from a toenail fungus infection? Isn’t anything you can do?”

“I could put her on a different treatment, but I’m afraid her liver won’t be able to handle it. We’ll just have to wait and see.” said the doctor.

I felt my knees going weak…how am I going to explain this to the kids?

How am I going to look into their eyes and tell them mommy’s not coming home…

What’s going to happen to all the plans we had together….to our future….to that trip to Bali we planned for our 10th anniversary.

I kneeled by the side of the bed…and took her hand in my hand….tears were running down my cheeks….

I was ashamed that I didn’t realized sooner what a real threat this infection was.

Embarrassed because I believed the doctors when they told us the drugs will help, that it was nothing to worry about, “it’s just a minor infection.“

My world was falling apart right in front of my helpless eyes…

In the span of 6 months she went from an energetic 33 years old to being bedridden and needing a vital transplant.

So why am I sharing this story with you?

...

So I really must warn you:
Don’t Take Any Prescription Anti-Fungal Medication
Until You See This

...

Most people don’t know this, but the gut is where over 80% of your immune system draws its power from.

Our gut is like a micro-wild west town, where good bacteria and bad bacteria play cowboys and Indians.

In order for our immune system to be efficient, the good guys need to win the fight. Unfortunately, swallowing a bunch of antibiotics prescribed for a condition that doesn’t exit…it only adds gasoline to the fire.

The fungus sabotages your immune system and you end up on the hospital bed with septicemia, meningitis or worse!

And to add insult to injury the two most prescribed antifungal drugs out there: Lamisil & Sporanox are responsible for a long trail of dead bodies that pharmaceutical companies are desperately trying to hide.

Did you know that Lamisil caused death or severe complications in many toenail fungus patients?

According to the FDA, about half the patients reported onset of liver failure, within the first weeks of starting a treatment with Lamisil.

...

Can you see the insanity in prescribing these drugs to millions of patients?

Lamisil and Sporanox are meant to kill toenail fungus, but instead of that, they kill the patient.

It’s like using explosives to clear your home of pests!

These pills go directly in your bloodstream and poison your entire body

Toenail fungus patients are prescribed Lamisil and Sporanox for 6-9 months

They have a 60% success rate but damage your body 100% of the time.

But what your doctor forgot to tell you is that even if you survive the full treatment, toenail fungus returns in 75% of the cases!

And it gets even worse: at least half of the toenail fungus patients who took these drugs reported addiction.

This is called the “fungus drug addiction” and it’s a well-known problem among toenail fungus sufferers.

And don’t get me started on the last so-called “miracle” treatment: laser therapy.

It costs $500 per session, you need multiple sessions to get it cured and it doesn’t even guarantee you’ll be 100% cured.

...

Read more at http://japanesetoenailfunguscode.com/dpt_c_t/?subid4=dpt&subid5=i1_t&aff_id=2714&subid=w3JAPFVTUKTBOVH5H12A46DC.

Tea tree oil. While I am for vaccines, because we live all close and shit, I'm not a friend of the pharmaceutical industry. Colloidal silver as well, takes a bit longer though. The tea tree oil works great to control spider mites and insect infestation in your garden, and the silver heals wounds fast, and keeps food fresh linger than usual if you cook with it.

The world is such a beautiful construct, in its harmony

[BADecker]

Tea tree oil. While I am for vaccines, because we live all close and shit, I'm not a friend of the pharmaceutical industry. Colloidal silver as well, takes a bit longer though. The tea tree oil works great to control spider mites and insect infestation in your garden, and the silver heals wounds fast, and keeps food fresh linger than usual if you cook with it.

The world is such a beautiful construct, in its harmony

Tea tree oil, Melaleuca oil, generally Melaleuca alternifolia, is only one of the oils around that are helping people in many ways. In fact, essential oils have been around for a long time. Melaleuca simply happns to be a shining example of the power that they have.

Science is just getting started in examining essential oils, but most of the work is being done by private essential oil marketing companies.

There are thousands of plants worldwide, but mainly in South America, that have never been considered for essential oil use. If quality essential oils were made out of many of these, there would be no disease that could stand in the world.

[mainpmf]

Tea tree oil. While I am for vaccines, because we live all close and shit, I'm not a friend of the pharmaceutical industry. Colloidal silver as well, takes a bit longer though. The tea tree oil works great to control spider mites and insect infestation in your garden, and the silver heals wounds fast, and keeps food fresh linger than usual if you cook with it.

The world is such a beautiful construct, in its harmony

Tea tree oil, Melaleuca oil, generally Melaleuca alternifolia, is only one of the oils around that are helping people in many ways. In fact, essential oils have been around for a long time. Melaleuca simply happns to be a shining example of the power that they have.

Science is just getting started in examining essential oils, but most of the work is being done by private essential oil marketing companies.

There are thousands of plants worldwide, but mainly in South America, that have never been considered for essential oil use. If quality essential oils were made out of many of these, there would be no disease that could stand in the world.

You need to stop that shit bro.

I mean I perfectly agree that there is lots of progress to be done in "natural medication" fields.
I agree that a good way of life helps a lot.

But there is a reason why medication exists... There are simply tons of diseases you just can't fight in a natural way! Explain me how your oil is going to help against a cancer, the HIV or a big shit like paludism?
Cause those 3 diseases are responsible for dozens of millions of deaths every year!