Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated: Guess who is Sicker?

[BADecker]

How can you believe in these idiotic myths? Overpopulation is not even close to be a problem, probably never will, do you know China? So many people live inside China and they are perfectly fine, even if the population doubled or tripled in size we would still be fine and by that time we will probably live on Mars.

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The anonymity of the guidestones' authors, and their apparent advocacy of population control, eugenics, and internationalism, have made them a target for controversy and conspiracy theory.

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[Moloch]

This whole thread can be explained by the simple fact that people who don't get their children vaccinated, also don't visit the doctor as often

When you visit the doctor often, the doctor finds things wrong with you... that's literally his job

If you don't visit the doctor, he can't find anything wrong with you, so there is obviously lower "diagnosed" problems with unvaccinated children because they haven't been to the doctor... the doctor can't find a problem if he never investigates the child, but that doesn't mean the problem doesn't exist, only that it was not diagnosed

There is also a problem with doctors misdiagnosing certain conditions like ADD/ADHD.  Ritalin companies would pay doctors kickbacks for each prescription they wrote... and write prescriptions they did... over 6 million kids were prescribed medication for ADHD... as if hyperactivity isn't normal for children

[tvbcof]

This whole thread can be explained by the simple fact that people who don't get their children vaccinated, also don't visit the doctor as often
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The 'whole thread' eh?

Funny there are no 'total health outcome' studies which employ proper multivariate analysis in order to substantiate the claim.  But when we are have someone as wise as Moloch to bless us with his wisdom, who needs science, right?  Part of any decent study of this nature would be to publish the protocols along with the data and 'the maths.'  In other words the study would be 'open.'

Actually there are a fair number of studies which claim to find that the unvaccinated are much lower in a variety of expensive, life-long, and debilitating medical conditions than those who've received a 'full' vaccine schedule as instructed by corp/gov.  For some reason corp/gov is very resistant to sponsoring or certifying such studies themselves even though it would be fairly simple to do.  Who knows why?

We all have a pretty good idea why such studies will never be done, and if they are, they won't be done properly.  If such a study ever was done only a tiny fraction of the really clueless would opt for any shots for their kids.  Fact is, vaccinations really are an appropriate tool for certain things and it is worth the risk in certain instances, but the abuse that already occurred means that in terms of having a responsible program for the actual good of society, 'that ship has sailed.'

[kemswag]

In the 21st century, vaccination is the best way to  avoid being sick. I always choose vaccination against being sick.

[Jarvis Edge]

Lets be serious here, vaccines have helped us to eradicate  terrible diseases  such as the small pox or polio, you DO understand this is no coincidence right? Millions of lives have been saved thanks to vaccination. If you personally know a doctor, please - DO ask him/her to tell you an option on the topic!

[robbietobby]

I was really informed by this article. It was helpful anyway. And now am reading reviews and critics about it and one says " My child got super super autisimed by vaccines and bled to death from the needle when i ripped his band aid off. Also all of my other children got murcury and aluminium poisining and died im sad ): so then it went on and more of them were dead so so sad"

I think the advancement of anesthesiology is not that develop considering that there were lots of factors involved by applying this vaccines into human body. Medicine ethics will still be reign on this part.

[tvbcof]

Lets be serious here, vaccines have helped us to eradicate  terrible diseases  such as the small pox or polio, you DO understand this is no coincidence right? Millions of lives have been saved thanks to vaccination. If you personally know a doctor, please - DO ask him/her to tell you an option on the topic!

Doctors inevitably have a relatively high IQ in order to get through med school, but they are not super-human.  Not even close.  In med school they don't necessarily become even proficient in most fields.  They might have touch on the subject of vaccination for one day of one class.  In order to pass the mid-term they just have to repeat a few fundamental 'truths' about how great vaccination is.  This because most medical schools are funded by people who get rich off of the status quo in allopathic medicine.

Doctors also don't have to keep current in all branches of medical science.  In fact it would be impossible.  Some doctors are fascinated by their occupation and read broadly about it as a passion.  Others are more interested in their golf game.

At the end of the day, an intelligent person from another field can easily eclipse most licensed medical doctor in knowledge of a particular field of medicine with a week or two of study.  This doesn't make them 'as good as' a doctor because they will still lack the breadth of knowledge that most doctors have by virtue of years of study and practice, but it makes them perfectly qualified to speak intelligently on a subject such as vaccination.

Much of my most valuable information about vaccinations and some of the problems with them come from medical doctors and research scientists who, after years of experience, 'flipped' and no longer believe some of the stuff they were supposed to believe in order to be issued a degree and license.  Inevitably these are people with the half a lecture in immunology under their belt AND a lot of first-hand medical experience AND a great deal of extra independent study to confirm their suspicions and catch up on the in-depth scientific aspects of the field.

Unfortunately when a doctor or scientist goes against the flow, it has very negative consequences for their livelihood.  Only a tiny fraction of truly special people are willing to do this.  And only a tiny fraction of the general public notices, recognizes, and appreciates their work and their sacrifices.  At the end of the day, though, someone like Dr. Suzanne Humphries will save orders of magnitude more pain and suffering by putting out the information she knows on videos with only a couple thousand views than she ever could if she kept her $300,000 year job as a nephrologist.

http://drsuzanne.net/dr-suzanne-humphries-vaccines-vaccination/

[mogenesis]

Fast food, bad genes, too much TV, video games, pesticides, plastics – name the environmental factor and it has been implicated in the surge of sickness, although none adequately explains the scale or scope of the epidemic. There is one exposure, however, that has evaded the search, despite that children have received it by direct injection in steadily accumulating doses far beyond anything past generations ever saw: 50 doses of 14 vaccines by age six, 69 doses of 16 pharmaceutical vaccines containing powerfully immune-altering ingredients by age 18.

[BADecker]

491,000 Children Paralyzed Over 17 Years, Indian Polio Vaccine Program Study Suggests

A new study titled Correlation between Non-Polio Acute Flaccid Paralysis Rates with Pulse Polio Frequency in India has recently been published in the Journal of Environmental Research and Public Health. Using data obtained from the National Polio Surveillance Programme (NPSP) as reported by the Government of India, the findings corroborate well over a decade of research showing a strong link between rates of non-polio acute flaccid paralysis (NPAFP) and India's oral polio vaccine (OPV) campaign. The incidence of polio acute flaccid paralysis (AFP) in India has decreased. However, the NPAFP rate has increased since 2000.

Read more at http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/491000-children-paralyzed-over-17-years-indian-polio-vaccine-program-study-sugges.

[tvbcof]

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Read more at http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/491000-children-paralyzed-over-17-years-indian-polio-vaccine-program-study-sugges.

Oh, so they have paralyzed a ton of darkies with NOTpolio?  Who knew?  Oh that's right...us 'crazy conspiracy theorists.'  You know; the ones who actually read scientific papers.

The death and paralysis is absolutely not polio if it came from a polio vaccine.  By definition!  And besides it's a kinder gentler death and paralysis if the UN and Bill Gates gives it to you.  Brown people don't mind being paralyzed like us white folk, and there are way to many of them anyway all living there in India and breeding like rabbits.  Thankfully there are plenty of corrupt darkies who will take a pay-off to kill their own.

BTW, look at those women in the picture playing roulette with that poor kid.  I can absolutely see why they call us 'white devils.'  Ten bucks says that those hideous creatures are thinking about their next spirit cooking dinner and the yummy 'walnut sauce' they are going to enjoy.

[Astargath]

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Read more at http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/491000-children-paralyzed-over-17-years-indian-polio-vaccine-program-study-sugges.

Oh, so they have paralyzed a ton of darkies with NOTpolio?  Who knew?  Oh that's right...us 'crazy conspiracy theorists.'  You know; the ones who actually read scientific papers.

The death and paralysis is absolutely not polio if it came from a polio vaccine.  By definition!  And besides it's a kinder gentler death and paralysis if the UN and Bill Gates gives it to you.  Brown people don't mind being paralyzed like us white folk, and there are way to many of them anyway all living there in India and breeding like rabbits.  Thankfully there are plenty of corrupt darkies who will take a pay-off to kill their own.

BTW, look at those women in the picture playing roulette with that poor kid.  I can absolutely see why they call us 'white devils.'  Ten bucks says that those hideous creatures are thinking about their next spirit cooking dinner and the yummy 'walnut sauce' they are going to enjoy.

''5. Conclusions
The polio eradication programme succeeded in drastically reducing the global spread of this disease, which was achieved through the use of immunization with OPV.''

[BADecker]

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Read more at http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/491000-children-paralyzed-over-17-years-indian-polio-vaccine-program-study-sugges.

Oh, so they have paralyzed a ton of darkies with NOTpolio?  Who knew?  Oh that's right...us 'crazy conspiracy theorists.'  You know; the ones who actually read scientific papers.

The death and paralysis is absolutely not polio if it came from a polio vaccine.  By definition!  And besides it's a kinder gentler death and paralysis if the UN and Bill Gates gives it to you.  Brown people don't mind being paralyzed like us white folk, and there are way to many of them anyway all living there in India and breeding like rabbits.  Thankfully there are plenty of corrupt darkies who will take a pay-off to kill their own.

BTW, look at those women in the picture playing roulette with that poor kid.  I can absolutely see why they call us 'white devils.'  Ten bucks says that those hideous creatures are thinking about their next spirit cooking dinner and the yummy 'walnut sauce' they are going to enjoy.

''5. Conclusions
The polio eradication programme succeeded in drastically reducing the global spread of this disease, which was achieved through the use of immunization with OPV.''

LOL! We aren't supposed to be reducing the population as a method for reducing or stopping the spread of diseases.

[Astargath]

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Read more at http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/491000-children-paralyzed-over-17-years-indian-polio-vaccine-program-study-sugges.

Oh, so they have paralyzed a ton of darkies with NOTpolio?  Who knew?  Oh that's right...us 'crazy conspiracy theorists.'  You know; the ones who actually read scientific papers.

The death and paralysis is absolutely not polio if it came from a polio vaccine.  By definition!  And besides it's a kinder gentler death and paralysis if the UN and Bill Gates gives it to you.  Brown people don't mind being paralyzed like us white folk, and there are way to many of them anyway all living there in India and breeding like rabbits.  Thankfully there are plenty of corrupt darkies who will take a pay-off to kill their own.

BTW, look at those women in the picture playing roulette with that poor kid.  I can absolutely see why they call us 'white devils.'  Ten bucks says that those hideous creatures are thinking about their next spirit cooking dinner and the yummy 'walnut sauce' they are going to enjoy.

''5. Conclusions
The polio eradication programme succeeded in drastically reducing the global spread of this disease, which was achieved through the use of immunization with OPV.''

LOL! We aren't supposed to be reducing the population as a method for reducing or stopping the spread of diseases.

It's a quote from your article, or rather the study you mentioned. They clearly say that vaccines helped even though the recent doses have to be fixed.

[BADecker]

''5. Conclusions
The polio eradication programme succeeded in drastically reducing the global spread of this disease, which was achieved through the use of immunization with OPV.''

LOL! We aren't supposed to be reducing the population as a method for reducing or stopping the spread of diseases.

It's a quote from your article, or rather the study you mentioned. They clearly say that vaccines helped even though the recent doses have to be fixed.

And as you pointed out, "... drastically reducing the global spread of this disease ..." through, as the rest of the article pointed out, reducing the population via vaccine... even if such isn't what the authors had in mind to show.

[tvbcof]

Oh, so they have paralyzed a ton of darkies with NOTpolio?  Who knew?  Oh that's right...us 'crazy conspiracy theorists.'  You know; the ones who actually read scientific papers.
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''5. Conclusions
The polio eradication programme succeeded in drastically reducing the global spread of this disease, which was achieved through the use of immunization with OPV.''

In other words, by paralyzing and killing a ton of Indian darkies the important people have been spared?  I see.  I'll fully understand the machete wound across the faces of your type when your corpses are dumped into the pit and won't hold it against them.  Hell, I might even help.  I just hope they don't mistake me for you.  I mean I'm assuming you are an entitled white man/women (if there is a difference any more) who get all excited by the eugenics folks's propaganda.  Seems that 99% of you folks are.

[Astargath]

Oh, so they have paralyzed a ton of darkies with NOTpolio?  Who knew?  Oh that's right...us 'crazy conspiracy theorists.'  You know; the ones who actually read scientific papers.
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''5. Conclusions
The polio eradication programme succeeded in drastically reducing the global spread of this disease, which was achieved through the use of immunization with OPV.''

In other words, by paralyzing and killing a ton of Indian darkies the important people have been spared?  I see.  I'll fully understand the machete wound across the faces of your type when your corpses are dumped into the pit and won't hold it against them.  Hell, I might even help.  I just hope they don't mistake me for you.  I mean I'm assuming you are an entitled white man/women (if there is a difference any more) who get all excited by the eugenics folks's propaganda.  Seems that 99% of you folks are.

Again, that's a quote from your study that you said was so amazing.

[BADecker]

Oh, so they have paralyzed a ton of darkies with NOTpolio?  Who knew?  Oh that's right...us 'crazy conspiracy theorists.'  You know; the ones who actually read scientific papers.
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''5. Conclusions
The polio eradication programme succeeded in drastically reducing the global spread of this disease, which was achieved through the use of immunization with OPV.''

In other words, by paralyzing and killing a ton of Indian darkies the important people have been spared?  I see.  I'll fully understand the machete wound across the faces of your type when your corpses are dumped into the pit and won't hold it against them.  Hell, I might even help.  I just hope they don't mistake me for you.  I mean I'm assuming you are an entitled white man/women (if there is a difference any more) who get all excited by the eugenics folks's propaganda.  Seems that 99% of you folks are.

Again, that's a quote from your study that you said was so amazing.

And YOU pick on ME for showing how cops are worse than ISIS! But all the while you are happy with Big Pharma killing off thousands of people and using disease eradication as an excuse. You are about as big of a hypocrite as can be!

[Astargath]

Oh, so they have paralyzed a ton of darkies with NOTpolio?  Who knew?  Oh that's right...us 'crazy conspiracy theorists.'  You know; the ones who actually read scientific papers.
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''5. Conclusions
The polio eradication programme succeeded in drastically reducing the global spread of this disease, which was achieved through the use of immunization with OPV.''

In other words, by paralyzing and killing a ton of Indian darkies the important people have been spared?  I see.  I'll fully understand the machete wound across the faces of your type when your corpses are dumped into the pit and won't hold it against them.  Hell, I might even help.  I just hope they don't mistake me for you.  I mean I'm assuming you are an entitled white man/women (if there is a difference any more) who get all excited by the eugenics folks's propaganda.  Seems that 99% of you folks are.

Again, that's a quote from your study that you said was so amazing.

And YOU pick on ME for showing how cops are worse than ISIS! But all the while you are happy with Big Pharma killing off thousands of people and using disease eradication as an excuse. You are about as big of a hypocrite as can be!

Pharma killing people, mcdonalds killing people, coca cola killing people, deodorant producers killing people (they add metals into their products) etc etc.

[NotoriousHodler]

In my country thanks to the vaccines the number of diseases has been reduced, so I have nothing to complain about the vaccines.

That's the whole point of the study. One disease might be reduced or cancelled out by vaccination, but a whole lot of other disease thrive because of it. And many of those that thrive would never have existed if vaccinations were not around.

With such rhetoric you could block any arguments coming your way, really. What do you mean, those that thrive would not have existed, how do you know that? Based on studying 600+ children in a country where there is tenths of millions of them? I know that thanks to the vaccination i didn't have to spend months lying in bed with some kind of outdated illness, and i wouldn't want my kids to suffer those too. So your argument is really null, because there is neither point, nor sense behind it.

[BADecker]

In my country thanks to the vaccines the number of diseases has been reduced, so I have nothing to complain about the vaccines.

That's the whole point of the study. One disease might be reduced or cancelled out by vaccination, but a whole lot of other disease thrive because of it. And many of those that thrive would never have existed if vaccinations were not around.

With such rhetoric you could block any arguments coming your way, really. What do you mean, those that thrive would not have existed, how do you know that? Based on studying 600+ children in a country where there is tenths of millions of them? I know that thanks to the vaccination i didn't have to spend months lying in bed with some kind of outdated illness, and i wouldn't want my kids to suffer those too. So your argument is really null, because there is neither point, nor sense behind it.

Introduce the vaccination just at the right time, when the peoples' immune systems are overcoming the disease, and it looks like the vaccination works. The medical often does that just to make vaccines look good.

Even if the vaccination works, the cured people of the medical countries are finding out that they are way more unhealthy in many ways because of the vaccines. Part of this is because the vaccines should be stopped once they have done their work, and not used for prevention.

One of the greatest protections from diseases is hygiene. When the medical introduces hygiene at the same time they introduce vaccines, people think it is the vaccines, and the records go down saying that it was the vaccines. But nobody can really tell. We are finding that it was the hygiene rather than the vaccines.

Good nutrition and hygiene are way better than good vaccines, but most vaccines are simply poison in part. There are very few good vaccines.