Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated: Guess who is Sicker?

[BADecker]

^^^ Informed consent. Interesting.

Half the time when a process server serves paper on you, the paperwork isn't entirely informational. What do I mean? The paperwork comes from a government office, like the court... but maybe from a bank for not paying your credit card payment... or from the IRS for taxes. It is a government form. On the form are boxes with writing in them. But according to the legal four-corner grammar rule, anything in a box, or inside the four corners of brackets - [ ] - isn't on the paper. That " " isn't on this paper, legally, because of the four-corner grammar rule.

But the more important thing that they never tell you is (no informed...), when you get the paper, it's an offer to you for acceptance. The law says that if you keep the paperwork, you are accepting it (consent). But if you send or give it back to them with a notice that you don't understand, you haven't accepted their offer. You aren't part of their court process.

If you don't accept their offer, and law enforcement arrests you when you haven't accepted their process offer, LE has arrested you for nothing. You can prosecute them individually as men/women for illegal, unauthorized control of your property... your body. Sue them and their bond.



EDIT: I had to make those brackets bigger to get the smiley inside them.

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[tvbcof]

^^^ Informed consent. Interesting.

Half the time when a process server serves paper on you, the paperwork isn't entirely informational. What do I mean? The paperwork comes from a government office, like the court... but maybe from a bank for not paying your credit card payment... or from the IRS for taxes. It is a government form. On the form are boxes with writing in them. But according to the legal four-corner grammar rule, anything in a box, or inside the four corners of brackets - [ ] - isn't on the paper. That " " isn't on this paper, legally, because of the four-corner grammar rule.

But the more important thing that they never tell you is (no informed...), when you get the paper, it's an offer to you for acceptance. The law says that if you keep the paperwork, you are accepting it (consent). But if you send or give it back to them with a notice that you don't understand, you haven't accepted their offer. You aren't part of their court process.

If you don't accept their offer, and law enforcement arrests you when you haven't accepted their process offer, LE has arrested you for nothing. You can prosecute them individually as men/women for illegal, unauthorized control of your property... your body. Sue them and their bond.

Appreciate some of this information since some of it I did not know.

I've watched a ton of 'sovereign citizens owned' vids.  I find it impossible to not come away satisfied when one of these 'sovereign citizens' a-holes get body slammed by the police, and see the police are the good guys with the patience of a saint.

I am VERY suspicious that a lot of these 'sovereign citizens' are random dopes who have (legitimate) charges against them dropped for playing the role of a 'sovereign citizen' and putting it on Jewtube.  The specific purpose would be to give 'sovereign citizens' a bad name in the public eye.  I've watched things for several decades at least and I know that there was a period of time about a decade ago when the establishment had a genuine concern about this philosophy.  It is almost inconceivable that methods for thwarting it were not discussed by the establishment and put into action.  I find it very likely that the artifacts of an 'action plan' are not what we see on 'social media' regularly these days.  As always, this is pretty much exactly the strategy I would come up with if I were contracted to come up with a 'solution' to the sovereign citizen 'problem.'

Personally I find it a shame that such as proposed above seems to be working because a lot of very interesting discoveries and hypotheses about how the legal system works seem to be uncovered by genuine 'sovereign citizens'.  Knowing how something works is key to attacking it successfully.  I do NOT agree that harassment of ignorant lackey individuals at the bottom of the food chain is one of them...unless said individual is dealt in and cooperating to achieve a more sophisticated plan for an end-goal.

The '...and their bond' thing you stated is more in line with a strategy which I think could pay dividends if undertaken by uncompromised entities.

[BADecker]

^^^

Karl Lentz 137 - The City orders you to do maintenance on your yard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WZOLXpD-A8

[BADecker]

^^^

Okay, let me say it straight out and simple. If any mam/woman gives you an order, you deserve to get paid when you fill the order. The only time you may not deserve payment is when they are you master and you are their slave.

Your child is your property. I mean, did they have anything to do with making the child? The child is property of you and your husband/wife. If they are giving you orders about your child, like orders to vaccinate, get the orders in writing, and then bill them appropriately when you do what they ordered.

If they don't have volumes of test reports that insure the safety of their vaccines, sue them for attepted murder of your child by giving you an order to vaccine the kid.

[BADecker]

^^^

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[Agarthian]

who wouldve thought vaccine and flat earth truth being discussed on bitcointalk .>>>


There is hope IN crypto Community STILL !

[BADecker]

^^^ One of the many various forms of vaccination caused retardation.

[BADecker]

If this wasn't so sickening, it would be laughable. The media doesn't want to believe, that people's anguish because vaccines harmed their kids, really believe that vaccines could harm their kids.


VAXXED II: The People's Truth

I thought that one post, which was about vaccine choice and why it's important, would surely spark a conversation.  The person who'd shared the post offered some personal information with the photo and why they advocate for it now—years ago, their child was negatively affected by a liability-free vaccine.  Most of the comments that had been left were sympathetic.  Some were in support of vaccine choice, but one person's remarks made me pause:   

"I don't think you really mean that the shot caused your child's problems, do you?  Because that doesn't happen…does it?"

I believe the commenter was not a troll and was genuinely asking for clarification.  Maybe they had never experienced a reaction post-vaccination before.  Maybe they hadn't taken time to look beyond what many doctors and what our government says about vaccines (that they are "always and only safe and effective").  Maybe they didn't have children yet and didn't know that the US vaccine program recommends more liability-free vaccines now than ever in the history of the vaccine program.  No matter what their vaccine status or stance was, the response they left needed an answer.

Official Vaxxed II: The People's Truth Trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASRRv_MZp2w

[sheenshane]

If this wasn't so sickening, it would be laughable. The media doesn't want to believe, that people's anguish because vaccines harmed their kids, really believe that vaccines could harm their kids.
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That's why I hate my parents by letting me being vaccinated without my consent! Just kidding though but this is on point.

I don't know how much time the research about vaccine was invested but I think they also know the risks yet they did not tell it to at least gain their money back they spent in the research. Vaccines could prevent some harder diseases but vaccines are naturally^ chemical and will affect a person's body in a lifetime. Vaccination is something to be scared of since you as a person doesn't even know what are the contents of that specific vaccine. It has to be prevented.

[BADecker]

^^^ When you look throughout this thread, you can find posts with links to doctors and others finding out that there aren't any safety tests being done on the vaccines. There is simply an assumption that vaccines are safe, or there is an assumption that if they work, their good points produce more good than their bad points produce bad.

WHAT !?!?!?

Do you mean to tell me that there are bad points to vaccines!?!?!?

DuckDuckGo search on all the words you can think of to ask for literal test reports on vaccine safety, and post them in this thread. DON'T POST REPORTS THAT SAY THERE ARE TEST REPORTS. Rather, post the actual test reports, themselves, so that we can look at what happened in the double blind studies.

[TECSHARE]

^^^ Informed consent. Interesting.

Half the time when a process server serves paper on you, the paperwork isn't entirely informational. What do I mean? The paperwork comes from a government office, like the court... but maybe from a bank for not paying your credit card payment... or from the IRS for taxes. It is a government form. On the form are boxes with writing in them. But according to the legal four-corner grammar rule, anything in a box, or inside the four corners of brackets - [ ] - isn't on the paper. That " " isn't on this paper, legally, because of the four-corner grammar rule.

But the more important thing that they never tell you is (no informed...), when you get the paper, it's an offer to you for acceptance. The law says that if you keep the paperwork, you are accepting it (consent). But if you send or give it back to them with a notice that you don't understand, you haven't accepted their offer. You aren't part of their court process.

If you don't accept their offer, and law enforcement arrests you when you haven't accepted their process offer, LE has arrested you for nothing. You can prosecute them individually as men/women for illegal, unauthorized control of your property... your body. Sue them and their bond.

Appreciate some of this information since some of it I did not know.

I've watched a ton of 'sovereign citizens owned' vids.  I find it impossible to not come away satisfied when one of these 'sovereign citizens' a-holes get body slammed by the police, and see the police are the good guys with the patience of a saint.

I am VERY suspicious that a lot of these 'sovereign citizens' are random dopes who have (legitimate) charges against them dropped for playing the role of a 'sovereign citizen' and putting it on Jewtube.  The specific purpose would be to give 'sovereign citizens' a bad name in the public eye.  I've watched things for several decades at least and I know that there was a period of time about a decade ago when the establishment had a genuine concern about this philosophy.  It is almost inconceivable that methods for thwarting it were not discussed by the establishment and put into action.  I find it very likely that the artifacts of an 'action plan' are not what we see on 'social media' regularly these days.  As always, this is pretty much exactly the strategy I would come up with if I were contracted to come up with a 'solution' to the sovereign citizen 'problem.'

Personally I find it a shame that such as proposed above seems to be working because a lot of very interesting discoveries and hypotheses about how the legal system works seem to be uncovered by genuine 'sovereign citizens'.  Knowing how something works is key to attacking it successfully.  I do NOT agree that harassment of ignorant lackey individuals at the bottom of the food chain is one of them...unless said individual is dealt in and cooperating to achieve a more sophisticated plan for an end-goal.

The '...and their bond' thing you stated is more in line with a strategy which I think could pay dividends if undertaken by uncompromised entities.

Personally I am pro police accountability, and against hating cops just because they are cops. Also you have seen here I try not to delve into topics unless there is some kind of documented factual basis for them. I have spent a considerable amount of time looking into so called "sovereign citizens", and as a whole share your disdain as they are usually at best half informed. The one and only person I would endorse under that field, even though he would personally not designate himself as a "sovereign", is Karl Lentz. The rest are pretenders. This man knows his shit and can put it into action. It is worth spending time listening to him. Prepare to be confused for a while and to do some research of your own.

[BADecker]

The things that I would add about Karl are:
https://www.youtube.com/user/765736
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZKeNa_PqtpSzSxqArho65dZuC2kqhYiCXnl9rzPQ0x8/edit


There is more, but start here^^^.

[BADecker]

The '...and their bond' thing you stated is more in line with a strategy which I think could pay dividends if undertaken by uncompromised entities.

The bond fight was attempted in the past. It often failed because it was done in administrative courts rather than in common law courts.

First thing to do is find their Oath of Office on file. If they don't have an OoO, they are operating in treason. If it wasn't done in the manner prescribed by law, but they did it just to protect themselves against you, they must correct their lack-of-OoO mistake in the right way for correcting mistakes, or they are still acting in treason.

[Crypto-DesignService]

^^^ One of the many various forms of vaccination caused retardation.

Yeah sure but when you sneeze in front of unvaccinated person, will it be attempted homicide?

[tvbcof]

^^^ One of the many various forms of vaccination caused retardation.

Yeah sure but when you sneeze in front of unvaccinated person, will it be attempted homicide?

If you've had the 'official' vaccine schedule, you could well be an asymptomatic life-long carrier of wild-strain pertussis (whooping cough.)

Were I a non-vaccinated person I would consider the danger of such 'Typhoid Mary' individuals, even if artificially created by our 'modern' medical and political systems, to be one of the standard risks of being alive.

So no, I would not consider it 'attempted homicide'.  At least not attempted by the poor sap who is hacking up germs all over me and my family.

I would, however, keep my infant away from your nasty ass until he/she is strong enough to tolerate the sickness you are spreading around.  If not, I'll suffer through three weeks of the poor kid hacking up a lung with the silver lining being that they will have life-long immunity without having their brain tissue being topped off with aluminum salts which form "amorphous mesh‑like structure."

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Edit:  An 'amorphous mesh-like structure' reminds me of an antenna.  I wonder if tissue filled with such structures might present a higher absorptive cross-section to millimeter wave electromagnetic radiation (such as 5G)?  Inquiring (e.g., non-vaccinated) minds wanna know.  Especially those who are being pressured to give their new-born baby a ridiculous 'hep B' injection containing Merck's proprietary aluminum hydroxyphosphate sulfate formulation .

[BADecker]

^^^ One of the many various forms of vaccination caused retardation.

Yeah sure but when you sneeze in front of unvaccinated person, will it be attempted homicide?

Depends on if you are too ignorant to require them to prove that it was your sneeze that did it.

[cestmoi]

No believing in vaccine / science in 2019 is just crazy.
It is like believing Bitcoin that is just some fake internet money.

I will quote those two paragraph as they are better written that what i could produce :

The “Hygiene and Better Nutrition Are Responsible for the Reduction in Disease Rates, Not Vaccination” Misconception
Improved hygiene and nutrition, among other factors, can certainly lower the incidence of some diseases. Data documenting the number of cases of a disease before and after the introduction of a vaccine, however, demonstrate that vaccines are overwhelmingly responsible for the largest drops in disease rates. Measles cases, for example, numbered anywhere from 300,000 to 800,000 a year in the United States between 1950 and 1963, when a newly licensed measles vaccine went into widespread use. By 1965, U.S. measles cases were beginning a dramatic drop. In 1968 about 22,000 cases were reported (a drop of 97.25% from the height of 800,000 cases in just three years); by 1998, the number of cases averaged about 100 per year or less. A similar post-vaccination drop occurred with most diseases for which vaccines are available.

Perhaps the best evidence that vaccines, and not hygiene and nutrition, are responsible for the sharp drop in disease and death rates is chickenpox. If hygiene and nutrition alone were enough to prevent infectious diseases, chickenpox rates would have dropped long before the introduction of the varicella vaccine, which was not available until the mid-1990s. Instead, the number of chickenpox cases in the United States in the early 1990s, before the vaccine was introduced in 1995, was about four million a year. By 2004, the disease incidence had dropped by about 85%.

source : https://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/articles/misconceptions-about-vaccines



And this (from 1996)  :

Two hundred years after the discovery of vaccine by the English physician Edward Jenner, immunization can be credited with saving approximately 9 million lives a year worldwide. A further 16 million deaths a year could be prevented if effective vaccines were deployed against all potentially vaccine-preventable diseases.

So far only one disease, smallpox, has been eradicated by vaccines, saving approximately 5 million lives annually.

Polio could be next. Over 80% of the world's children are now being immunized against the polio virus, and the annual number of cases has been cut from 400,000 in 1980 to 90,000 in the mid-1990s. If the year 2000 goal of eradicating polio is achieved, the United States will be able to save the $270 million a year that is currently spent on polio vaccination. The savings for Western European countries will amount to about $200 million a year.

Measles, currently killing 1.1 million children a year, is another possible candidate for eradication. Once high levels of routine immunization have been achieved, national immunization days, followed by close monitoring and 'blitzing' of any outbreaks, can eliminate the disease.




Immunization: the story so far
Progress to date against diseases for which vaccines already exist and deaths from diseases for which vaccines might be developed

Annual deaths
(all ages) if no
immunization   
                       Prevented   Occurring   % prevented
Smallpox   5.0 million   5.0 million   --   100
Diphtheria   260,000   223,000   37,000   86
Whooping cough   990,000   630,000   360,000   64
Measles   2.7 million   1.6 million   1.1 million   60
Neonatal tetanus   1.2 million   0.7 million   0.5 million   58
Hepatitis B   1.2 million   0.4 million   0.8 million   33
Tuberculosis   3.2 million   0.2 million   3.0 million   6
Polio (cases of lifelong paralysis)   640,000   550,000   90,000   86
Malaria/other parasitic infections   2.2 million   --   2.2 million   0
HIV/sexually transmitted diseases   1.3 million   --   1.3 million   0
Diarrhoea/enteric fevers*   3.0 million   --   3.0 million   0
Acute respiratory infections   3.7 million   --   3.7 million   0
NOTE Figures for the number of deaths that would occur in the absence of immunization are generally calculated by taking the known mortality rate of each disease in the unvaccinated and applying it to the total population.

Yellow fever still causes an estimated 30,000 deaths a year but is omitted from this table because information is not available on the number of deaths currently prevented by vaccination.

* Oral rehydration therapy (ORT) is preventing approximately 1 million deaths a year from the dehydration that is one of the most common consequences of diarrhoeal disease. Vaccines, which could prevent infection, may become available.

SOURCE Estimates supplied by Children's Vaccine Initiative, Geneva, February 1996.

source : https://www.unicef.org/pon96/hevaccin.htm


So, i am sorry for the families that claims that their kids got autism or died after being given a vaccine shot.
They should be happy that a vaccine saved their parents / grand parent from smallpox a few decades ago.



I don't say that vaccination must happen and that pumping 15 vaccines in one go in a new born is fine.
Maybe their is another way and we could wait for babies to be stronger 3 years ? 5 years ? to vaccine them.
But if vaccines hadn't been invented 200 years ago, we would definitely be less than 7 billions on earth and wouldn't have the quality of life we have today.


I come from a country where health is paid by the state (taxes) so free for its citizens (or almost... like it costs fuck all).
If i had a say i would let vaccines optional. People are smart enough to chose if they want it or not.
But if someone comes to the hospital being sick by something preventable from vaccines they would have to pay 100% of the care instead of have the ratepayer paying for it.
The same way i would let heavy smokers pay for their own lung cancer treatment or alcoholic paying for their liver transplant and drug user pay for their stomach pumping ...
Obviously Free healthcare for everybody if it is an accident / not your fault / not preventable / genetic .....

[tvbcof]

No believing in vaccine / science in 2019 is just crazy.
It is like believing Bitcoin that is just some fake internet money.

I will quote those two paragraph as they are better written that what i could produce :

...
Perhaps the best evidence that vaccines, and not hygiene and nutrition, are responsible for the sharp drop in disease and death rates is chickenpox....

source : https://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/articles/misconceptions-about-vaccines

What a load or horse-shit.  Death by chickenpox went from hovering around the chances of getting killed by lightning to somewhat below the chances of getting killed by lightning.  Maybe.  Big fuckin' deal.

More people probably get killed on their way to get their forced vaccination for chickenpox than would ever die from the minor ailment (which happens to confer life-long immunity.)  That's not counting the people who go into anaphylactic shock from the injection, develop peanut allergies,  autoimmune problems, etc, etc.

As a result of screwing up 'herd immunity' with the vaccine for chickenpox in kids, we got an epidemic of shingles in the older population and that is an utterly nasty condition which I suspect contributes to a lot of suicides among the elderly since it is so unpleasant.  Of course big pharma made a ton on yet another vaccines for shingles, and as usual the vaccine doesn't work for shit.

Even the highly corrupt regulatory agencies didn't think chickenpox was a problem which warranted a childhood vaccine, but the big pharma money caused them to change their minds in the more corrupt countries (like the U.S.)

[cestmoi]

No believing in vaccine / science in 2019 is just crazy.
It is like believing Bitcoin that is just some fake internet money.

I will quote those two paragraph as they are better written that what i could produce :

...
Perhaps the best evidence that vaccines, and not hygiene and nutrition, are responsible for the sharp drop in disease and death rates is chickenpox....

source : https://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/articles/misconceptions-about-vaccines

What a load or horse-shit.  Death by chickenpox went from hovering around the chances of getting killed by lightning to somewhat below the chances of getting killed by lightning.  Maybe.  Big fuckin' deal.

More people probably get killed on their way to get their forced vaccination for chickenpox than would ever die from the minor ailment (which happens to confer life-long immunity.)  That's not counting the people who go into anaphylactic shock from the injection, develop peanut allergies,  autoimmune problems, etc, etc.

As a result of screwing up 'herd immunity' with the vaccine for chickenpox in kids, we got an epidemic of shingles in the older population and that is an utterly nasty condition which I suspect contributes to a lot of suicides among the elderly since it is so unpleasant.  Of course big pharma made a ton on yet another vaccines for shingles, and as usual the vaccine doesn't work for shit.

Even the highly corrupt regulatory agencies didn't think chickenpox was a problem which warranted a childhood vaccine, but the big pharma money caused them to change their minds in the more corrupt countries (like the U.S.)

really ?

the number of chickenpox cases in the United States in the early 1990s, before the vaccine was introduced in 1995, was about four million a year. By 2004, the disease incidence had dropped by about 85%.

Each year, more than 3.5 million cases of varicella, 9,000 hospitalizations, and 100 deaths are prevented by varicella vaccination in the United States

source : https://www.cdc.gov/chickenpox/surveillance/monitoring-varicella.html



And what about this vaccine  ?

So far only one disease, smallpox, has been eradicated by vaccines, saving approximately 5 million lives annually.

Surely this is one vaccine showed its usefulness, no ?

[tvbcof]

...
What a load or horse-shit.  Death by chickenpox went from hovering around the chances of getting killed by lightning to somewhat below the chances of getting killed by lightning.  Maybe.  Big fuckin' deal.
,,,

really ?

the number of chickenpox cases in the United States in the early 1990s, before the vaccine was introduced in 1995, was about four million a year. By 2004, the disease incidence had dropped by about 85%.

Yeah, really.  NOAA estimates that 51 persons per year on average are killed by getting hit by lightning.

Each year, more than 3.5 million cases of varicella, 9,000 hospitalizations, and 100 deaths are prevented by varicella vaccination in the United States

source : https://www.cdc.gov/chickenpox/surveillance/monitoring-varicella.html

While the CDC is a known corrupt cesspool of big pharma advocates, they are right-ish about this.  Right that death by chickepox is a non-issue that is.  They know that most people are to innumerate to actually look at what they are seeing and to stupid to understand what they are actually hearing.

And what about this vaccine  ?

So far only one disease, smallpox, has been eradicated by vaccines, saving approximately 5 million lives annually.

Surely this is one vaccine showed its usefulness, no ?

What about it?  Very few of 'us' will say that vaccines cannot have a usefulness.  For the most part all we are saying is that they can be mis-used and that the science and propaganda is a load of garbage.  And we are questioning why, exactly, that might be.