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Author Topic: Klondike - 16 chip ASIC Open Source Board - Preliminary  (Read 435376 times)
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July 29, 2013, 05:04:15 AM
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What is the temperature of the K16 without the fan/heatsink? I'd like to compare it to the predictions from my model. My heatsink/fin model seems fairly accurate.
I haven't tested without heatsink and fan. When I have a full K16 soon I may do a brief test and see how quickly it gets too hot, but I won't run it for long.

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July 29, 2013, 05:07:52 AM
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Hi All,

Looks like I need to sell some more Bitcoin right away. Darn, it's such a pain that FC4B isn't around now as they made it so easy. I've looked at Coinbase as well but frankly they just don't work for me. If anyone I dealt with previously would be able to gobble up some more then please PM me. Don't clutter up here. Thx.

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July 29, 2013, 09:32:55 AM
Last edit: July 29, 2013, 10:37:08 AM by BkkCoins
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I've added a new product item to the web store.

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If you already ordered and want to add some of these to that order, simply PP/BTC me 0.75 x qty with a note, and I'll add them manually with no added shipping.

If you need less than 4 to match a current K16 board order, then PM me and I'll add them for free.


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July 29, 2013, 06:52:21 PM
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BKK, how much is this following news going to screw you?

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following Bitcoin activities are illegal in Thailand:

  • Buying Bitcoins
  • Selling Bitcoins
  • Buying any goods or services in exchange for Bitcoins
  • Selling any goods or services for Bitcoins
  • Sending Bitcoins to anyone located outside of Thailand
  • Receiving Bitcoins from anyone located outside of Thailand
Source: https://bitcoin.co.th/trading-suspended-due-to-bank-of-thailand-advisement/?bettertitle
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July 29, 2013, 06:56:44 PM
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BKK, how much is this following news going to screw you?

Wierd.  Is there some kind of law in Thailand that says everything is illegal unless a law permits it? (or is that article just poorly written).
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July 29, 2013, 07:03:43 PM
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BKK, how much is this following news going to screw you?

Since it's an announcement made by a single exchange with no proof to support it and no laws actually passed, probably not much.
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July 29, 2013, 07:16:35 PM
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BKK, how much is this following news going to screw you?

Wierd.  Is there some kind of law in Thailand that says everything is illegal unless a law permits it? (or is that article just poorly written).


Yes and yes.
Laws are a joke. A normal person breaks loads of laws during the course of normal day-to-day activities... such laws only come into play if you step on wrong toes.

Example... the following is illegal in Thailand
1. Prostitution
2. Going out of your home without wearing underwear
3. Swimming across the river without carrying a coin

The article just sounds like the government advised them that its illegal.. basically saying "we have not declared it legal and at this moment we don't think its important to spend time and resources thinking about it.".

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July 29, 2013, 09:49:55 PM
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Example... the following is illegal in Thailand
1. Prostitution
2. Going out of your home without wearing underwear
3. Swimming across the river without carrying a coin

The article just sounds like the government advised them that its illegal.. basically saying "we have not declared it legal and at this moment we don't think its important to spend time and resources thinking about it.".

3 is a joke I suppose? :p
In the article mining is NOT mentioned as illegal Wink
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July 29, 2013, 10:21:41 PM
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Example... the following is illegal in Thailand
1. Prostitution
2. Going out of your home without wearing underwear
3. Swimming across the river without carrying a coin

The article just sounds like the government advised them that its illegal.. basically saying "we have not declared it legal and at this moment we don't think its important to spend time and resources thinking about it.".

3 is a joke I suppose? :p
In the article mining is NOT mentioned as illegal Wink

2 and 3 i just stole from some site after googling... Having lived here for few years it seems very plausable.

mining is not mentioned as legal, hence its illegal. Your argument is invalid. Wink

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July 29, 2013, 10:59:51 PM
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mining is not mentioned as legal, hence its illegal. Your argument is invalid. Wink

What does it matter. Why mine bitcoin when you can't spend nor trade them Tongue
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July 29, 2013, 11:42:24 PM
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BKK, how much is this following news going to screw you?

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following Bitcoin activities are illegal in Thailand:

  • Buying Bitcoins
  • Selling Bitcoins
  • Buying any goods or services in exchange for Bitcoins
  • Selling any goods or services for Bitcoins
  • Sending Bitcoins to anyone located outside of Thailand
  • Receiving Bitcoins from anyone located outside of Thailand
Source: https://bitcoin.co.th/trading-suspended-due-to-bank-of-thailand-advisement/?bettertitle

Obviously anyone in Thailand will have to trade their BTC quietly as the law is unlikely to be enforceable unless you advertise what you are doing. Keep your BTC wallet offshore so no transactions passing though Thai jurisdiction, though technically the blockchain is everywhere. Litecoin would be an alternative.

However in this case it's simply poor reporting, as The Bank of Thailand has no legal power see: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=264389.0



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July 29, 2013, 11:48:11 PM
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BKK, how much is this following news going to screw you?

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following Bitcoin activities are illegal in Thailand:

  • Buying Bitcoins
  • Selling Bitcoins
  • Buying any goods or services in exchange for Bitcoins
  • Selling any goods or services for Bitcoins
  • Sending Bitcoins to anyone located outside of Thailand
  • Receiving Bitcoins from anyone located outside of Thailand
Source: https://bitcoin.co.th/trading-suspended-due-to-bank-of-thailand-advisement/?bettertitle

Will this affect any of the Klondike plans?

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July 30, 2013, 12:34:20 AM
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This looks like a possible hoax to me ?
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July 30, 2013, 12:36:54 AM
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This looks like a hoax to me ?

Well some other sources are quoting this bad article but until we are certain we will need to see if it is true or not
Telegraph source
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=264463.0;topicseen

Original Source
https://bitcoin.co.th/trading-suspended-due-to-bank-of-thailand-advisement/

That said this post says it is legal and the other articles are all based on one bad source and misinterpretation a bank is not representative of the country
The Bank of Thailand has no legal power  
The Foreign Exchange Administration and Policy Department are merely departments of the bank, not branches of the legislative government of Thailand.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=264389.0

So we will need to wait and see for a while

With regards to paypal it might be a good idea to balance the account in case Paypal tries to lock it for transactions of products related to bitcoin even if it is not trading in bitcoin itself.

Back to Project Klondike
Will this affect any of the Klondike plans?

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July 30, 2013, 01:12:31 AM
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Will this affect any of the Klondike plans?
No. I don't have any bitcoins in Thailand and have never traded any bitcoins in Thailand.

This story is typical of the way Thai officials work and how corrupt all institutions related to law and enforcement are in Thailand. That being random, and highly dependent on who you piss off, so you won't find me discussing my physical location here, or annoying any local authorities. I couldn't afford to pay the bribes if they wanted to bother with me. But this news means you won't find me discussing Bitcoin with locals here. No change for me anyway.

Don't get Thailand mixed up with most western states. It's a completely different way of living here. To give you an example, a friend I had a few years ago used to get stopped for driving without a license like clockwork once a week for his 500 baht fine. If no one makes a stink most unlawful activities are similarly accommodated.

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July 30, 2013, 11:05:13 AM
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Is there any disadvantage running a k64 as 4 single k16?

Ok you need 4 USB-cable but is there a speed decrease?
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July 30, 2013, 11:59:16 AM
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Is there any disadvantage running a k64 as 4 single k16?

Ok you need 4 USB-cable but is there a speed decrease?
Shouldn't be. You would have 4 lines on your screen instead of 1, but unless your host is very slow I don't imagine it would have any trouble with the load.

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July 30, 2013, 01:49:48 PM
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Is there any disadvantage running a k64 as 4 single k16?

Ok you need 4 USB-cable but is there a speed decrease?


Not different. a k64 is just 4 k16, not cut up into 4 boards but kept as 1. They are connected between each board, not by usb but by a ribbon cable. All you will need is one usb cable, and i think you can connect/chain up to 8 boards in one ribbon cable or was it even 16 boards.
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July 30, 2013, 02:15:55 PM
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Is there any disadvantage running a k64 as 4 single k16?

Ok you need 4 USB-cable but is there a speed decrease?


Not different. a k64 is just 4 k16, not cut up into 4 boards but kept as 1. They are connected between each board, not by usb but by a ribbon cable. All you will need is one usb cable, and i think you can connect/chain up to 8 boards in one ribbon cable or was it even 16 boards.

I would assume 8 of them, since that is 128 chips (USB hosts can accept 128 devices, and i would assume that the controller on the K16 either follows this rule or applies a similar rule to the chips it controls)

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July 30, 2013, 02:32:38 PM
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Is there any disadvantage running a k64 as 4 single k16?

Ok you need 4 USB-cable but is there a speed decrease?


Not different. a k64 is just 4 k16, not cut up into 4 boards but kept as 1. They are connected between each board, not by usb but by a ribbon cable. All you will need is one usb cable, and i think you can connect/chain up to 8 boards in one ribbon cable or was it even 16 boards.

I would assume 8 of them, since that is 128 chips (USB hosts can accept 128 devices, and i would assume that the controller on the K16 either follows this rule or applies a similar rule to the chips it controls)

No, the USB protocol is not used when communicating with the chips.  Each 16-chip board is shown as a single device when connected via USB.  If you use the built-in chaining capability of the boards (which uses the i2c protocol, not USB) it still shows up as a single USB device, regardless of how many boards you have chained together.

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