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Whew.... K16 so so so so close...
Avalon chips ... so so so so close...
Wow. So much respect BKKCoins. Can't wait to sell out our K1s and pass on your developer fees as soon as possible.
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July 15, 2013, 02:11:04 PM |
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Bkkcoins beats BFL !!!
You rule!!!
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July 15, 2013, 03:05:35 PM |
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Bkkcoins beats BFL !!!
You rule!!!
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July 15, 2013, 04:26:00 PM |
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Huge congratulations! Watching this thread has been really inspiring, what a fantastic effort.  . |
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July 15, 2013, 05:23:38 PM |
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Huge congratulations! Watching this thread has been really inspiring, what a fantastic effort. . + 1000 Awesome. Just awesome! |
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July 15, 2013, 06:57:41 PM |
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Congratz bkk, you are the man!
Are you planning to try to overclock the k16 boards, maybe using only 12-14 chips?
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July 15, 2013, 08:49:59 PM |
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FINAL BETA K16 v0.3.0 Board Design Released.
I've pushed my latest design files up to GitHub and updated the parts list.
Have Fun. New 3D render and gerber outputs also there. Use gerbv and open the kicad/ka6/ka6.gvp file.
Tomorrow I hope to have a web store open. Still a bunch of work to do there, setup Paypal and Bitcoin Pmts, and I need to take a few photos. Initially I expect to have pre-order K16 and K1 Board Only sales. Pre-order as in I'll order the boards and when they come in I'll ship them out - not months of angst waiting.
I'll also have Solder Paste Stencils for K16 and K1, and a small plain Heat Sink for the K1 as well. The boards include a license fee component, and pricing for QTY 1-9, 10-25, 26-50, 51-99, 100+. I plan to add some pre-programmed PIC parts later but that also depends on supply, and there's not much point in that until I have a boot loader written.
Note - my firmware files now default for use with inverters on result data and clk. If you still use non-inverted you will need to edit two lines before building in addition to setting chip count and bank values. I'll get some of this cleaned up with proper defines before long.
Next up: QFN variant and then K1 revision.
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July 15, 2013, 09:00:26 PM |
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Great job and congrats Bkkcoins.
Maybe I have missed this, but how's the overclocking capacity of the current design?
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July 15, 2013, 10:04:12 PM |
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Great job and congrats Bkkcoins.
Maybe I have missed this, but how's the overclocking capacity of the current design?
it seems its still on the todo list if you check the project page at github: https://github.com/bkkcoins/klondike |
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July 15, 2013, 10:05:39 PM |
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From what I understand, the only way to overclock the current revision is to under-populate the board, using only 14 Avalon chips instead of 16.
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July 15, 2013, 10:10:05 PM
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From what I understand, the only way to overclock the current revision is to under-populate the board, using only 14 Avalon chips instead of 16.
No one knows how much overclocking the K16 will deliver. There are design changes pending that might improve overclocking. When the new PC boards are built and tested we should have a better idea of the K16's abilities. |
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July 15, 2013, 11:32:45 PM |
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I'll also have Solder Paste Stencils for K16 and K1, and a small plain Heat Sink for the K1 as well. The boards include a license fee component, and pricing for QTY 1-9, 10-25, 26-50, 51-99, 100+. I plan to add some pre-programmed PIC parts later but that also depends on supply, and there's not much point in that until I have a boot loader written.
Sweet! I'm excited you'll be selling K1 boards. I'll be down for a few of those for sure. It would be a big plus for me personally if you are able to offer pre-programmed PIC parts, even at a premium. Thanks again for all the hard work! |
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July 15, 2013, 11:36:19 PM |
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From what I understand, the only way to overclock the current revision is to under-populate the board, using only 14 Avalon chips instead of 16.
No one knows how much overclocking the K16 will deliver. There are design changes pending that should improve overclocking. When the new PC boards are built and tested we should have a better idea of the K16's abilities. My understanding is that there IS some limited over-clocking headroom left in the rated power capacity of the voltage regulators in the current design. But what do I know - this is mostly all over my head?! |
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July 16, 2013, 12:00:47 AM |
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FINAL BETA K16 v0.3.0 Board Design Released.
I've pushed my latest design files up to GitHub and updated the parts list.
Have Fun. New 3D render and gerber outputs also there. Use gerbv and open the kicad/ka6/ka6.gvp file.
Tomorrow I hope to have a web store open. Still a bunch of work to do there, setup Paypal and Bitcoin Pmts, and I need to take a few photos. Initially I expect to have pre-order K16 and K1 Board Only sales. Pre-order as in I'll order the boards and when they come in I'll ship them out - not months of angst waiting.
I'll also have Solder Paste Stencils for K16 and K1, and a small plain Heat Sink for the K1 as well. The boards include a license fee component, and pricing for QTY 1-9, 10-25, 26-50, 51-99, 100+. I plan to add some pre-programmed PIC parts later but that also depends on supply, and there's not much point in that until I have a boot loader written.
Note - my firmware files now default for use with inverters on result data and clk. If you still use non-inverted you will need to edit two lines before building in addition to setting chip count and bank values. I'll get some of this cleaned up with proper defines before long.
Next up: QFN variant and then K1 revision.
Sweet. i'll be ordering some. Will your first run of boards be only for the TSSOP PIC, or will you be doing the QFN version as well? |
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July 16, 2013, 12:15:56 AM |
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FINAL BETA K16 v0.3.0 Board Design Released.
Hooray!  1) Is it risky for us to start printing the PCB now, without waiting for you to test the new revision of the board? 2) How to flash the firmware? 3) Could you explain about i2c for newbies? 4) What about overclocking? (it was already asked few posts before) |
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Vycid
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July 16, 2013, 12:55:31 AM |
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FINAL BETA K16 v0.3.0 Board Design Released.
Hooray! 1) Is it risky for us to start printing the PCB now, without waiting for you to test the new revision of the board? Come on, man, is that a serious question? Of course that'd be risky or he'd be done testing. That doesn't necessarily mean it won't work, just that it's not "done" yet. |
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July 16, 2013, 12:57:58 AM |
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Great stuff. Will likely be ordering a few boards.
Thanks Bkk
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July 16, 2013, 03:10:57 AM
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Great job and congrats Bkkcoins.
Maybe I have missed this, but how's the overclocking capacity of the current design?
Untested. I just finished a 36 hour run at 300 MHz while I did the board revisions. The error rate average at end was 0.77%. I just started it at 350MHz and saw that the error rate has gone up already. So I'll let it run and report back. I suspect the HW errors will be a bit high at 350.  Great job and congrats Bkkcoins.
Maybe I have missed this, but how's the overclocking capacity of the current design?
it seems its still on the todo list if you check the project page at github: https://github.com/bkkcoins/klondikeUpdating the README is on my todo list as well. My understanding is that there IS some limited over-clocking headroom left in the rated power capacity of the voltage regulators in the current design. But what do I know - this is mostly all over my head?!
This is correct. I don't think we'll be stuck at 300 on the current board but I'm just making up a PCIe splice so I can meter it at various rates. I doubt it'll run higher than 350 with all chips on the current board. So that gives us a range to test with reasonable expectations. Sweet. i'll be ordering some.
Will your first run of boards be only for the TSSOP PIC, or will you be doing the QFN version as well?
I'm putting both types on the web store and I'll count numbers and order a batch when it reaches a reasonable count. ie. when the selling price covers the cost. Hooray! 1) Is it risky for us to start printing the PCB now, without waiting for you to test the new revision of the board? 2) How to flash the firmware? 3) Could you explain about i2c for newbies? 4) What about overclocking? (it was already asked few posts before) 1. Yes. 2. Buy the PIC from me (later) or buy a PICKit3. 3. No. Read the Wikipedia, but for users they just need to know how to put 2 boards side by side and slide the connector on. 4. See above. At this point the only people who can get excited about ordering boards is the ones who can build their own - have the skills - and are willing to risk some moola on an early bird untested board. The boards won't be very costly so if you order some and then wait for other's to test then you can avoid the cost of all the other parts until you have a good idea it will work. This is like the difference between building your own Android Phone and buying one at the store. Which do normal people do? If you want to support the project, go ahead and buy some. If you want some on hand to give to an experienced builder when the results are in, then buy some. But if you want a plug and play, warranted, reliable experience, then wait for the final product from one of the vendors. If you are going to be selling Klondike based products then please send me a brief PM and I'll tally up all reports and publish a list here. Please don't clutter the thread with responses. I already know most of you but I'd like to do a fair round up and post a single entry. Thx. BTW I pushed an update already and bumped to 0.3.1 Just removed the silkscreen text behind the power conn. so people aren't confused by the 12V +/- now that the relevant conn. is removed. Those holes are for plastic retainer pins on the PCIe conn. not for soldering to. |
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July 16, 2013, 04:43:19 AM |
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This is like the difference between building your own Android Phone and buying one at the store. Which do normal people do? If you want to support the project, go ahead and buy some. If you want some on hand to give to an experienced builder when the results are in, then buy some. But if you want a plug and play, warranted, reliable experience, then wait for the final product from one of the vendors.
Have you considered offering autographed collectors boards for those that just want to support the project? Sign me up for the first autographed K1 |
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July 16, 2013, 04:46:07 AM |
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This is like the difference between building your own Android Phone and buying one at the store. Which do normal people do? If you want to support the project, go ahead and buy some. If you want some on hand to give to an experienced builder when the results are in, then buy some. But if you want a plug and play, warranted, reliable experience, then wait for the final product from one of the vendors.
Have you considered offering autographed collectors boards for those that just want to support the project? Sign me up for the first autographed K1 Seriously, quote me a price. |
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