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[shield132]

I have already stated that I do not have a utility bill. they kept asking for utility bill. so i sent them a utility bill of my address. i have already provided 3 documents prior regard to proof of address.


also is not the reason why my 6 selfies are denied. i have explained they are all clear. you must work for stake?

all users beware stake pays many shills to vouch for their scam. they will steal your money.

I had the same problem with Payoneer. They couldn't understand that in a country where I live, things work differently and I am not able to provide any utility bill because it's paid by the one who owns the house, only house owner's name is written on it, mine can't be, even if I rent the house, my name can't be written on it because house owner can rent house without any document or paper agreement.

i have been very polite and have provided all documents. they have given me level 2 after 7 selfies. if you were in my position you would be on site doing the same thing. you are fortunately to not be in this situation. i don’t know what else to call them other than scam site. i have sent 7 nearly identical selfies and they finally verify. they ask for passport which i do not have. i ask every support email and live chat what to do without passport. no one respond. they keep asking for passport. i tell everyone for hours no passport, they tell me to send id again, so i do. then the verify asks for passport. then i say to all support no passport. they tell me after 2 day to send id. i send id, the very ask for passport again. i go to live chat explain no passport. they tell me ID is ok, send id. so i send id. very tells me passport again.

this  situation happen 7 times. do you want me to explain rest of situation? it is very confusing. make no sense to me. i am just here to warn people of scam.

It's probably very rare to see case like this, I totally understand how bad it feels. I don't know your location but if you are from Georgia, I can confirm that people can't provide utility bill and also don't need to have passport and many people don't own one because people don't travel often.

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[AHOYBRAUSE]

You can see the recent bonus cuts are in full effect on the recent christmas promotion as well.

The stream was already much worse than last year ( smaller bonus buys and kind of less drops ) and especially the last drop was a full scam, haha.
Eddie didn't change the nonce so the result of picking the drop was the same as the last regular drop ( which was the 2nd lowest outcome ).


All the people in the chat told him, he didn't care and said the outcome is different, even though claims and wager requirement was exactly the same result. So the amount was also the same falling on 13$ of possible 30$, which is basically the same as the previous 3$ of possible 9$. Very frustrating dealing with a person who just doesn't care and can't admit his own mistake.

Now to the telegram drops. Last year every drop for the xmas promo had 5000 claims with 5$ and different wager, maybe starting at 8-10k. Now there are only 2000 drops for 5$ with much higher wager. And since the drop amount is so low they are gone within 20 seconds yet again , well done stake.

Very disappointing work by the marketing team yet again.

[Ojima-ojo]

You can see the recent bonus cuts are in full effect on the recent christmas promotion as well.

The stream was already much worse than last year ( smaller bonus buys and kind of less drops ) and especially the last drop was a full scam, haha.
Eddie didn't change the nonce so the result of picking the drop was the same as the last regular drop ( which was the 2nd lowest outcome ).


All the people in the chat told him, he didn't care and said the outcome is different, even though claims and wager requirement was exactly the same result. So the amount was also the same falling on 13$ of possible 30$, which is basically the same as the previous 3$ of possible 9$. Very frustrating dealing with a person who just doesn't care and can't admit his own mistake.

Now to the telegram drops. Last year every drop for the xmas promo had 5000 claims with 5$ and different wager, maybe starting at 8-10k. Now there are only 2000 drops for 5$ with much higher wager. And since the drop amount is so low they are gone within 20 seconds yet again , well done stake.

Very disappointing work by the marketing team yet again.

Well, one thing I think most of us fail to understand most of the time is that, one thing constant in life is change, I am not a very active customer of Stake but I've never seen or read in a place they said that the bonus amount will always be the same year after year, or month after month, or week after week.

If the company did not make as much profit as they made the last time bonus was substantial, you don't expect them to run the casino at a loss all because they want to pay customers the same amount of bonus they paid them the last time.

Anyways, I am not defending stake though, this is just my thought or what I think rather.

[ryzaadit]

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Why need to avoid ?

You play all-in with free money (promotion) money, to test your luck only. Off course, we don't recommended doing these with deposit money we only recommended using free money 5-10 start ended with a few hundred $ with just short time.

Worth to try, but need use free-money only.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

You can see the recent bonus cuts are in full effect on the recent christmas promotion as well.

The stream was already much worse than last year ( smaller bonus buys and kind of less drops ) and especially the last drop was a full scam, haha.
Eddie didn't change the nonce so the result of picking the drop was the same as the last regular drop ( which was the 2nd lowest outcome ).


All the people in the chat told him, he didn't care and said the outcome is different, even though claims and wager requirement was exactly the same result. So the amount was also the same falling on 13$ of possible 30$, which is basically the same as the previous 3$ of possible 9$. Very frustrating dealing with a person who just doesn't care and can't admit his own mistake.

Now to the telegram drops. Last year every drop for the xmas promo had 5000 claims with 5$ and different wager, maybe starting at 8-10k. Now there are only 2000 drops for 5$ with much higher wager. And since the drop amount is so low they are gone within 20 seconds yet again , well done stake.

Very disappointing work by the marketing team yet again.

Well, one thing I think most of us fail to understand most of the time is that, one thing constant in life is change, I am not a very active customer of Stake but I've never seen or read in a place they said that the bonus amount will always be the same year after year, or month after month, or week after week.

If the company did not make as much profit as they made the last time bonus was substantial, you don't expect them to run the casino at a loss all because they want to pay customers the same amount of bonus they paid them the last time.

Anyways, I am not defending stake though, this is just my thought or what I think rather.

Seriously?
You think that stake made less money this year?
You do know that they are still growing rapidly every month ( you can see that on the weekly wager/tickets for the raffle on stream) .
Also, they cut bonus and all the perks like crazy this year, 50-75%, so from this they also made much more money than last year. So yes, people can expect at least a good xmas promo.

This post in the forum compared this year and last year's xmas until now quite well:



That's 374k in promo money in 2022 compared to 80k this year. Pretty weak for a self proclaimed biggest crypto casino with the "best promotions".

[BitcoinHunt3r]

Seriously?
You think that stake made less money this year?
You do know that they are still growing rapidly every month ( you can see that on the weekly wager/tickets for the raffle on stream) .
Also, they cut bonus and all the perks like crazy this year, 50-75%, so from this they also made much more money than last year. So yes, people can expect at least a good xmas promo.

This post in the forum compared this year and last year's xmas until now quite well:

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/12/04/NcenI.png

That's 374k in promo money in 2022 compared to 80k this year. Pretty weak for a self proclaimed biggest crypto casino with the "best promotions".

I agree with you that profit is not the main reason I'm sure they have other reasons, as we said before they might divert the budget to other places/projects or maybe they are in a comfortable zone I mean when last year's promotion target was successful, they did not need to repeat it in terms of budget, unless they have strong competitors, they need to repeat it or even improve it. We all know that promos are related to efforts to attract the attention of customers so it's not surprised if there is a change when the target is reached. Besides, what they offer this month is far better than what other casino offers especially Casino Crypto and I have checked one by one nothing exceeds stake.com at the Christmas celebration, if I miss something tell me to check it. For me the 2x monthly bonus is what I'm waiting for the most this month, it's much better if possible.

[BlackyJacky]

All the people in the chat told him, he didn't care and said the outcome is different, even though claims and wager requirement was exactly the same result. So the amount was also the same falling on 13$ of possible 30$, which is basically the same as the previous 3$ of possible 9$.

Very frustrating dealing with a person who just doesn't care and can't admit his own mistake.

That is true!

The Stake in-house Black Jack system is provably rigged and not provably fair!

Info 1)

If you take a look at my statistics here https://ibb.co/Hxf8NpR you can see the following total numbers:

Bets: 180,904

Wins: 78,285

Losses: 86,612

If we reduce the number of wins from the number of losses, we can see that I lost 8,327 bets (86,612 minus 78,285 = 8,327)

Losing 8,327 bets out of 180,904 bets placed = 4,6% of the bets lost.


Info 2)

The advertised house edge for the Stake in-house Black Jack is 0,5%, which means longterm I will lose 0,5% of all bets placed.

Losing 0,5% out of 180,904 bets placed = 900 bets lost.

If you compare Info 1) with Info 2), you can see that I lost 8,327 bets instead of the 900 bets I should lose = 9 times more!

While there is a deviation from the expected outcome, it can not be 9 times more after 180,904 bets!


Info 3)

When the house edge is 0,5% and you placed 180,900 bets, you will lose 900 bets and the remaining 180,000 bets are coin flips.

The remaining 180,000 bets are coin flips, because they are neutral and you will win 50% = 90,000 bets and lose 50% = 90,000 bets.

4,6% of the bets lost while I should lose only 0,5% means my experienced deviation of the 180,000 coin flips is 4,1%!


Now let's take a look at the standard deviation for 180,000 coin flips:

A) Standard deviation for 180,000 coin flips = 212 coin flips = 0,12% (In 68% of all attempts, the deviation is up to 0,12%)
 
My experienced deviation of 4,1% is 34 times higher than the standard deviation (4,1% : 0,12% = 34)


B) 3 times standard deviation for 180,000 coin flips = 0,36% (In 99,7% of all attempts, the deviation is up to 0.36%)
 
My experienced deviation of 4,1% is 11 times higher than the 3 times standard deviation (4,1% : 0,36% = 11)

 
Info 4)

The Stake bet transaction history only states 180,000 single bet events and no overview of my experienced house edge.

To get my experienced house edge from the bet transaction history, I would need to take a look at all 180,000 bets and calculate it manually!

If the cards were dealt fair and I lost only 0,5% of all bets placed while the statistics states that I lost 4,6%, then the Stake statistics is rigged!

In either case, the Stake in-house Black Jack system is provably rigged and Stake has to compensate at least the 30,000 USD I lost from my pocket.

Their strategy to ignore me, while they are clearly at fault, will fail!  

Are they even here on Bitcointalk anymore?

Their alleged "Legal Department" fixes all issues now, or what?

[Beparanf]

Are they even here on Bitcointalk anymore?

Their alleged "Legal Department" fixes all issues now, or what?

They only handle extreme cases here with solid proof and the rest is through the casino live support. Your case is really hard to win because you are just using stats on the result while your decision making is crucial on the result of Blackjack game unlike other games with just a 50% chance game with win/lose result only. On Blackjack, Your card hit can change the outcome of the game.

[BlackyJacky]

Are they even here on Bitcointalk anymore?

Their alleged "Legal Department" fixes all issues now, or what?

They only handle extreme cases here with solid proof and the rest is through the casino live support.

1) Stake's in-house Black Jack provably rigged is an extreme case

2) Stake's own "Statistics" is solid proof

3) Their casino live support referred me to their provably incompetent alleged "Legal Department"

Your case is really hard to win because you are just using stats on the result while your decision making is crucial on the result of Blackjack game unlike other games with just a 50% chance game with win/lose result only. On Blackjack, Your card hit can change the outcome of the game.

I already won the case, because my card drawing strategy caused the advertised 0,5% house edge.

[Symphonized]

Anyone order the @StakeEddie edition of GTA6?  😂

[ryzaadit]

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Let me straight to the point without using a long-word.

Only handle not-crying person and unrealistic imagination from the user, that's all. In more simple word (we're not handle a troll), that's it no need to respond let him talk and we already seing him a lot so now just ignore it.
- Spam his troll comment
- Ignore him
- Tired by him self
- Then, he gone.

Just like the rest of the troll.

[3kpk3]

Anyone order the @StakeEddie edition of GTA6?  😂

Lol! That edit looks dumb as hell. You guys should run some sort of exclusive competition when GTA 6 releases sometime in 2025 which could bring together fans of the game and your site to one place.

I feel it would be worth the effort since GTA 6 is shaping up to be the most popular product in entertainment history.

[Betwrong]

[Over $3,000] Slots Forum Challenge | Week 18
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As I said earlier, I succeeded in this challenge, I hit 104.40x on Big Bass Christmas Bash slot. And today I successfully claimed the prize:



These challenges by Stake maybe won't bring you a lot of profit money-wise, but they are fun and I recommend joining them when you can, guys.

[Kakmakr]

You can see the recent bonus cuts are in full effect on the recent christmas promotion as well.

The stream was already much worse than last year ( smaller bonus buys and kind of less drops ) and especially the last drop was a full scam, haha.
Eddie didn't change the nonce so the result of picking the drop was the same as the last regular drop ( which was the 2nd lowest outcome ).


All the people in the chat told him, he didn't care and said the outcome is different, even though claims and wager requirement was exactly the same result. So the amount was also the same falling on 13$ of possible 30$, which is basically the same as the previous 3$ of possible 9$. Very frustrating dealing with a person who just doesn't care and can't admit his own mistake.

Now to the telegram drops. Last year every drop for the xmas promo had 5000 claims with 5$ and different wager, maybe starting at 8-10k. Now there are only 2000 drops for 5$ with much higher wager. And since the drop amount is so low they are gone within 20 seconds yet again , well done stake.

Very disappointing work by the marketing team yet again.

I think if I remember correctly... there were a slow buildup to the bigger drops closer to Xmas, so they are just doing the same thing that they did last year. We will see if they increase it ..as we get closer to Xmas.. to really see if it was scaled down or not.

In any way, even if they did $20 drops.. that money will come from the RTP and that is hurting the gaming experience. I prefer smaller .. but more regular drops ..with a good RTP, not bigger drops and a almost impossible gaming experience.. where it just drains your whole gambling budget in one session. 

[wiss19]

I have already stated that I do not have a utility bill. they kept asking for utility bill. so i sent them a utility bill of my address. i have already provided 3 documents prior regard to proof of address.

also is not the reason why my 6 selfies are denied. i have explained they are all clear. you must work for stake?

all users beware stake pays many shills to vouch for their scam. they will steal your money.

I had the same problem with Payoneer. They couldn't understand that in a country where I live, things work differently and I am not able to provide any utility bill because it's paid by the one who owns the house, only house owner's name is written on it, mine can't be, even if I rent the house, my name can't be written on it because house owner can rent house without any document or paper agreement.

The biggest issue with payoneer is that they do act like you are a business and not a person, and that's usually not the issue, and I understand that there could be some companies who do accept payment with payoneer, so you can be a customer and use that and pay people and that's fine, but payoneer is not a business only thing, you can be an individual and get paid as well and payoneer should handle that easily too, but they do act strange on that one unfortunately, not equally easy.

I do believe that we are going to end up seeing this fixed, there are some stuff they require and you may not be able to provide those documents and that feels bad but I am sure that eventually you will find "something", anything that might be used.

[o48o]

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-cut-
Just like the rest of the troll.

Imho, a perfect way to answer a trollish angry post is do it as calm and politely as possible, and i try to remember doing that, at least first time. Because it's ok to be angry and incoherent, but if there will be more incoherent replies with insults to spice them up. I just report and move on. Just like help desks do with trolls.

Trolls are a side-effect of free speech and equal visibility for every post. Every one can get their word out, and sometimes when they feel self-entitled crypto carens, they try to hijack whole threads to make them about themselves, because they think they deserve all the attention and time. And since they live for attention, they eventually quit without it.
Trolls don't care if they get their math wrong, or if their logic fails, truth doesn't matter to them as they only crave attention.

I am doing this to reduce flood, so i can concentrate on meaningful content, like news and sports betting.

[BlackyJacky]

I am doing this to reduce flood, so i can concentrate on meaningful content, like news and sports betting.

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/12/06/Nb3jm.png

If you want to concentrate on meaningful content, please take a look at this:

The Stake in-house Black Jack system is provably rigged and not provably fair!

Info 1)

If you take a look at my statistics here https://ibb.co/Hxf8NpR you can see the following total numbers:

Bets: 180,904

Wins: 78,285

Losses: 86,612

If we reduce the number of wins from the number of losses, we can see that I lost 8,327 bets (86,612 minus 78,285 = 8,327)

Losing 8,327 bets out of 180,904 bets placed = 4,6% of the bets lost.


Info 2)

The advertised house edge for the Stake in-house Black Jack is 0,5%, which means longterm I will lose 0,5% of all bets placed.

Losing 0,5% out of 180,904 bets placed = 900 bets lost.

If you compare Info 1) with Info 2), you can see that I lost 8,327 bets instead of the 900 bets I should lose = 9 times more!

While there is a deviation from the expected outcome, it can not be 9 times more after 180,904 bets!


Info 3)

When the house edge is 0,5% and you placed 180,900 bets, you will lose 900 bets and the remaining 180,000 bets are coin flips.

The remaining 180,000 bets are coin flips, because they are neutral and you will win 50% = 90,000 bets and lose 50% = 90,000 bets.

4,6% of the bets lost while I should lose only 0,5% means my experienced deviation of the 180,000 coin flips is 4,1%!


Now let's take a look at the standard deviation for 180,000 coin flips:

A) Standard deviation for 180,000 coin flips = 212 coin flips = 0,12% (In 68% of all attempts, the deviation is up to 0,12%)
 
My experienced deviation of 4,1% is 34 times higher than the standard deviation (4,1% : 0,12% = 34)


B) 3 times standard deviation for 180,000 coin flips = 0,36% (In 99,7% of all attempts, the deviation is up to 0.36%)
 
My experienced deviation of 4,1% is 11 times higher than the 3 times standard deviation (4,1% : 0,36% = 11)

 
Info 4)

The Stake bet transaction history only states 180,000 single bet events and no overview of my experienced house edge.

To get my experienced house edge from the bet transaction history, I would need to take a look at all 180,000 bets and calculate it manually!

If the cards were dealt fair and I lost only 0,5% of all bets placed while the statistics states that I lost 4,6%, then the Stake statistics is rigged!

In either case, the Stake in-house Black Jack system is provably rigged and Stake has to compensate at least the 30,000 USD I lost from my pocket.

Their strategy to ignore me, while they are clearly at fault, will fail!  

[efialtis]

Stake keeps processing withdrawals instantly (literally instantly), which is amazing. Numerous big withdrawals recently and they all arrived within seconds. Keep up the great job.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

Stake keeps processing withdrawals instantly (literally instantly), which is amazing. Numerous big withdrawals recently and they all arrived within seconds. Keep up the great job.

If they have no reason not to they always do.
Only btc withdrawals occasionally take some minutes to appear in the wallet but everything else arrives seconds after requesting it, which is in my eyes the biggest pro for stake.
Unfortunately the other pros went away over time but at least the fast withdrawals are still something players at stake can count on.

@blackyjack: you don't need to repost and repost and repost the same thing over and over again. Also I HIGHLY doubt every single bet in your history is blackjack, so your numbers don't work anyway. Like anyone believes you did not play any other casino game or sports bet in over 180000 bets, haha.

[ryzaadit]

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Yap, without issue.

My best experience big withdraw from stake (around 6-8K) instantly processed to my wallet. The good things as old member before (KYC Mandatory for new member), the withdraw still getting process with big amount without KYC.