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[BlackyJacky]

All the people in the chat told him, he didn't care and said the outcome is different, even though claims and wager requirement was exactly the same result. So the amount was also the same falling on 13$ of possible 30$, which is basically the same as the previous 3$ of possible 9$.

Very frustrating dealing with a person who just doesn't care and can't admit his own mistake.

That is true!

The Stake in-house Black Jack system is provably rigged and not provably fair!

Info 1)

If you take a look at my statistics here https://ibb.co/Hxf8NpR you can see the following total numbers:

Bets: 180,904

Wins: 78,285

Losses: 86,612

If we reduce the number of wins from the number of losses, we can see that I lost 8,327 bets (86,612 minus 78,285 = 8,327)

Losing 8,327 bets out of 180,904 bets placed = 4,6% of the bets lost.


Info 2)

The advertised house edge for the Stake in-house Black Jack is 0,5%, which means longterm I will lose 0,5% of all bets placed.

Losing 0,5% out of 180,904 bets placed = 900 bets lost.

If you compare Info 1) with Info 2), you can see that I lost 8,327 bets instead of the 900 bets I should lose = 9 times more!

While there is a deviation from the expected outcome, it can not be 9 times more after 180,904 bets!


Info 3)

When the house edge is 0,5% and you placed 180,900 bets, you will lose 900 bets and the remaining 180,000 bets are coin flips.

The remaining 180,000 bets are coin flips, because they are neutral and you will win 50% = 90,000 bets and lose 50% = 90,000 bets.

4,6% of the bets lost while I should lose only 0,5% means my experienced deviation of the 180,000 coin flips is 4,1%!


Now let's take a look at the standard deviation for 180,000 coin flips:

A) Standard deviation for 180,000 coin flips = 212 coin flips = 0,12% (In 68% of all attempts, the deviation is up to 0,12%)
 
My experienced deviation of 4,1% is 34 times higher than the standard deviation (4,1% : 0,12% = 34)


B) 3 times standard deviation for 180,000 coin flips = 0,36% (In 99,7% of all attempts, the deviation is up to 0.36%)
 
My experienced deviation of 4,1% is 11 times higher than the 3 times standard deviation (4,1% : 0,36% = 11)

 
Info 4)

The Stake bet transaction history only states 180,000 single bet events and no overview of my experienced house edge.

To get my experienced house edge from the bet transaction history, I would need to take a look at all 180,000 bets and calculate it manually!

If the cards were dealt fair and I lost only 0,5% of all bets placed while the statistics states that I lost 4,6%, then the Stake statistics is rigged!

In either case, the Stake in-house Black Jack system is provably rigged and Stake has to compensate at least the 30,000 USD I lost from my pocket.

Their strategy to ignore me, while they are clearly at fault, will fail!  

Are they even here on Bitcointalk anymore?

Their alleged "Legal Department" fixes all issues now, or what?

[Beparanf]

Are they even here on Bitcointalk anymore?

Their alleged "Legal Department" fixes all issues now, or what?

They only handle extreme cases here with solid proof and the rest is through the casino live support. Your case is really hard to win because you are just using stats on the result while your decision making is crucial on the result of Blackjack game unlike other games with just a 50% chance game with win/lose result only. On Blackjack, Your card hit can change the outcome of the game.

[Symphonized]

Anyone order the @StakeEddie edition of GTA6?  😂

[ryzaadit]

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Let me straight to the point without using a long-word.

Only handle not-crying person and unrealistic imagination from the user, that's all. In more simple word (we're not handle a troll), that's it no need to respond let him talk and we already seing him a lot so now just ignore it.
- Spam his troll comment
- Ignore him
- Tired by him self
- Then, he gone.

Just like the rest of the troll.

[3kpk3]

Anyone order the @StakeEddie edition of GTA6?  😂

Lol! That edit looks dumb as hell. You guys should run some sort of exclusive competition when GTA 6 releases sometime in 2025 which could bring together fans of the game and your site to one place.

I feel it would be worth the effort since GTA 6 is shaping up to be the most popular product in entertainment history.

[Betwrong]

[Over $3,000] Slots Forum Challenge | Week 18
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As I said earlier, I succeeded in this challenge, I hit 104.40x on Big Bass Christmas Bash slot. And today I successfully claimed the prize:



These challenges by Stake maybe won't bring you a lot of profit money-wise, but they are fun and I recommend joining them when you can, guys.

[Kakmakr]

You can see the recent bonus cuts are in full effect on the recent christmas promotion as well.

The stream was already much worse than last year ( smaller bonus buys and kind of less drops ) and especially the last drop was a full scam, haha.
Eddie didn't change the nonce so the result of picking the drop was the same as the last regular drop ( which was the 2nd lowest outcome ).


All the people in the chat told him, he didn't care and said the outcome is different, even though claims and wager requirement was exactly the same result. So the amount was also the same falling on 13$ of possible 30$, which is basically the same as the previous 3$ of possible 9$. Very frustrating dealing with a person who just doesn't care and can't admit his own mistake.

Now to the telegram drops. Last year every drop for the xmas promo had 5000 claims with 5$ and different wager, maybe starting at 8-10k. Now there are only 2000 drops for 5$ with much higher wager. And since the drop amount is so low they are gone within 20 seconds yet again , well done stake.

Very disappointing work by the marketing team yet again.

I think if I remember correctly... there were a slow buildup to the bigger drops closer to Xmas, so they are just doing the same thing that they did last year. We will see if they increase it ..as we get closer to Xmas.. to really see if it was scaled down or not.

In any way, even if they did $20 drops.. that money will come from the RTP and that is hurting the gaming experience. I prefer smaller .. but more regular drops ..with a good RTP, not bigger drops and a almost impossible gaming experience.. where it just drains your whole gambling budget in one session. 

[wiss19]

I have already stated that I do not have a utility bill. they kept asking for utility bill. so i sent them a utility bill of my address. i have already provided 3 documents prior regard to proof of address.

also is not the reason why my 6 selfies are denied. i have explained they are all clear. you must work for stake?

all users beware stake pays many shills to vouch for their scam. they will steal your money.

I had the same problem with Payoneer. They couldn't understand that in a country where I live, things work differently and I am not able to provide any utility bill because it's paid by the one who owns the house, only house owner's name is written on it, mine can't be, even if I rent the house, my name can't be written on it because house owner can rent house without any document or paper agreement.

The biggest issue with payoneer is that they do act like you are a business and not a person, and that's usually not the issue, and I understand that there could be some companies who do accept payment with payoneer, so you can be a customer and use that and pay people and that's fine, but payoneer is not a business only thing, you can be an individual and get paid as well and payoneer should handle that easily too, but they do act strange on that one unfortunately, not equally easy.

I do believe that we are going to end up seeing this fixed, there are some stuff they require and you may not be able to provide those documents and that feels bad but I am sure that eventually you will find "something", anything that might be used.

[o48o]

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Just like the rest of the troll.

Imho, a perfect way to answer a trollish angry post is do it as calm and politely as possible, and i try to remember doing that, at least first time. Because it's ok to be angry and incoherent, but if there will be more incoherent replies with insults to spice them up. I just report and move on. Just like help desks do with trolls.

Trolls are a side-effect of free speech and equal visibility for every post. Every one can get their word out, and sometimes when they feel self-entitled crypto carens, they try to hijack whole threads to make them about themselves, because they think they deserve all the attention and time. And since they live for attention, they eventually quit without it.
Trolls don't care if they get their math wrong, or if their logic fails, truth doesn't matter to them as they only crave attention.

I am doing this to reduce flood, so i can concentrate on meaningful content, like news and sports betting.

[BlackyJacky]

I am doing this to reduce flood, so i can concentrate on meaningful content, like news and sports betting.

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/12/06/Nb3jm.png

If you want to concentrate on meaningful content, please take a look at this:

The Stake in-house Black Jack system is provably rigged and not provably fair!

Info 1)

If you take a look at my statistics here https://ibb.co/Hxf8NpR you can see the following total numbers:

Bets: 180,904

Wins: 78,285

Losses: 86,612

If we reduce the number of wins from the number of losses, we can see that I lost 8,327 bets (86,612 minus 78,285 = 8,327)

Losing 8,327 bets out of 180,904 bets placed = 4,6% of the bets lost.


Info 2)

The advertised house edge for the Stake in-house Black Jack is 0,5%, which means longterm I will lose 0,5% of all bets placed.

Losing 0,5% out of 180,904 bets placed = 900 bets lost.

If you compare Info 1) with Info 2), you can see that I lost 8,327 bets instead of the 900 bets I should lose = 9 times more!

While there is a deviation from the expected outcome, it can not be 9 times more after 180,904 bets!


Info 3)

When the house edge is 0,5% and you placed 180,900 bets, you will lose 900 bets and the remaining 180,000 bets are coin flips.

The remaining 180,000 bets are coin flips, because they are neutral and you will win 50% = 90,000 bets and lose 50% = 90,000 bets.

4,6% of the bets lost while I should lose only 0,5% means my experienced deviation of the 180,000 coin flips is 4,1%!


Now let's take a look at the standard deviation for 180,000 coin flips:

A) Standard deviation for 180,000 coin flips = 212 coin flips = 0,12% (In 68% of all attempts, the deviation is up to 0,12%)
 
My experienced deviation of 4,1% is 34 times higher than the standard deviation (4,1% : 0,12% = 34)


B) 3 times standard deviation for 180,000 coin flips = 0,36% (In 99,7% of all attempts, the deviation is up to 0.36%)
 
My experienced deviation of 4,1% is 11 times higher than the 3 times standard deviation (4,1% : 0,36% = 11)

 
Info 4)

The Stake bet transaction history only states 180,000 single bet events and no overview of my experienced house edge.

To get my experienced house edge from the bet transaction history, I would need to take a look at all 180,000 bets and calculate it manually!

If the cards were dealt fair and I lost only 0,5% of all bets placed while the statistics states that I lost 4,6%, then the Stake statistics is rigged!

In either case, the Stake in-house Black Jack system is provably rigged and Stake has to compensate at least the 30,000 USD I lost from my pocket.

Their strategy to ignore me, while they are clearly at fault, will fail!  

[efialtis]

Stake keeps processing withdrawals instantly (literally instantly), which is amazing. Numerous big withdrawals recently and they all arrived within seconds. Keep up the great job.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

Stake keeps processing withdrawals instantly (literally instantly), which is amazing. Numerous big withdrawals recently and they all arrived within seconds. Keep up the great job.

If they have no reason not to they always do.
Only btc withdrawals occasionally take some minutes to appear in the wallet but everything else arrives seconds after requesting it, which is in my eyes the biggest pro for stake.
Unfortunately the other pros went away over time but at least the fast withdrawals are still something players at stake can count on.

@blackyjack: you don't need to repost and repost and repost the same thing over and over again. Also I HIGHLY doubt every single bet in your history is blackjack, so your numbers don't work anyway. Like anyone believes you did not play any other casino game or sports bet in over 180000 bets, haha.

[ryzaadit]

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Yap, without issue.

My best experience big withdraw from stake (around 6-8K) instantly processed to my wallet. The good things as old member before (KYC Mandatory for new member), the withdraw still getting process with big amount without KYC.

[xLays]

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Yap, without issue.

My best experience big withdraw from stake (around 6-8K) instantly processed to my wallet. The good things as old member before (KYC Mandatory for new member), the withdraw still getting process with big amount without KYC.

This is the one I love the most about stake.com. The instant withdrawal. I've been playing on Stake since 2020 and I haven't experienced any delays when it comes to withdrawals. The only thing I don't want happening at stake.com RN is they lowering the bonus for players who are already VIP like me. As a Platinum 1 VIP I used to claim a monthly bonus of $10, but now it's only $1.

[BlackyJacky]

@blackyjacky: you don't need to repost and repost and repost the same thing over and over again. Also I HIGHLY doubt every single bet in your history is blackjack, so your numbers don't work anyway. Like anyone believes you did not play any other casino game or sports bet in over 180000 bets, haha.

Your brain can not handle the cruel truth that the Stake in-house Black Jack system is rigged!

So it hallicunates the belief that I played other games which caused the 4,6% house edge stated in "Statistics".

[AHOYBRAUSE]

@blackyjacky: you don't need to repost and repost and repost the same thing over and over again. Also I HIGHLY doubt every single bet in your history is blackjack, so your numbers don't work anyway. Like anyone believes you did not play any other casino game or sports bet in over 180000 bets, haha.

Your brain can not handle the gruel truth that the Stake in-house Black Jack system is rigged!

So it hallicunates the belief that I played other games which caused the 4,6% house edge stated in "Statistics".

That does in now way answer the question I asked before.
I am not saying that blackjack at stake is fair, I am far from that opinion since my experience is the same as yours, just with a smaller sample size . Starting a BJ session with 12 losses in 12 games is a common experience. Or losing 70 of 100 games over and over again. Still I don't complain about that day in and day in this forum.

You know what I did because of that? I stopped playing stake house games, especially blackjack. 

[ryzaadit]

You know what I did because of that? I stopped playing stake house games, especially blackjack. 

It's remind me some Indian guy who are complaining about (Mines) he think is rigged is make a video about it.

The sad reality things about his gambling addiction he blame stake and mines but still playing on the casino + playing mines even he call that is a rigged and scam casino. So, can you believe it ? still playing after all that bullshit.

Now, look where he is now ? Gone, just like the a type player like that.

[Hispo]

You know what I did because of that? I stopped playing stake house games, especially blackjack.  

It's remind me some Indian guy who are complaining about (Mines) he think is rigged is make a video about it.

The sad reality things about his gambling addiction he blame stake and mines but still playing on the casino + playing mines even he call that is a rigged and scam casino. So, can you believe it ? still playing after all that bullshit.

Now, look where he is now ? Gone, just like the a type player like that.

Mines to me is like the second most adrenaline releasing game in a Casino , only after Crash.
Sounds quite like a very wacky case, to be honest. I have personally never followed that kind of people in social media, because most of the times it sounds like a wast of time. Though, my curiosity can be pretty strong. Do you have any idea of the name or username of that guy from India or how long ago that case took place?
I would like to take a look at him and his wacky content (assuming he has not deleted all of it yet, that is).

[ryzaadit]

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No need to share.

Why ? It's already gone. It's just remind me these user who are complain about BJ and same like him who are complain about (Mines), his proof are non-sense and keep spamming by creating a thread against stake.

Well, he was gone now.

[lionheart78]

You know what I did because of that? I stopped playing stake house games, especially blackjack. 

It's remind me some Indian guy who are complaining about (Mines) he think is rigged is make a video about it.

The sad reality things about his gambling addiction he blame stake and mines but still playing on the casino + playing mines even he call that is a rigged and scam casino. So, can you believe it ? still playing after all that bullshit.

Now, look where he is now ? Gone, just like the a type player like that.

Well, the guy did not prove that what he is talking about is true.  Even with his video he can't make a solid foundation of his accusation.  This is probably the reason why his accusation does not gain any traction and the guy decided to leave the scene in silence.

Mines to me is like the second most adrenaline releasing game in a Casino , only after Crash.
Sounds quite like a very wacky case, to be honest. I have personally never followed that kind of people in social media, because most of the times it sounds like a wast of time. Though, my curiosity can be pretty strong. Do you have any idea of the name or username of that guy from India or how long ago that case took place?
I would like to take a look at him and his wacky content (assuming he has not deleted all of it yet, that is).

I tried to play mine but I stopped instantly since I feel that it is very hard to win in such game. It makes me think harder, make a decision of an unknown result and often ends up with regret of not choosing the tile I first think of and ends up losing the game.