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November 27, 2017, 01:58:34 PM
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looking nice, neat & great @citronick, apologies bro, been really bz, happy to see the innovative ideas n the gpus running Smiley

@OP good to see much projects going on.

the capt is bz as hell as i'm a 1 man show.

keep up the good work nice to see new stuffs.

happy mining, happy making lotsa $$$

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November 27, 2017, 03:02:53 PM
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looking nice, neat & great @citronick, apologies bro, been really bz, happy to see the innovative ideas n the gpus running Smiley

@OP good to see much projects going on.

the capt is bz as hell as i'm a 1 man show.

keep up the good work nice to see new stuffs.

happy mining, happy making lotsa $$$

Yeah it is hard as I am one man show for the most part.

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Plan is build a two acre 240 volt 400 amp using funds from current array.

Maybe may or June.

Then using funds from two arrays build a second two acre array and finally build a third one.

Maybe may June 2018
Then may June 2019
Then  May June 2020
So

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November 27, 2017, 09:47:02 PM
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Big thanks to the several people who posted tips to update my drivers for ETH + DCR mining! I was finally able to get my hashrate almost back to what it was earlier this year. I am still about 10-12 Mh/s short but this is much much closer than the 35-40 short i was per rig, so thank you very much to all that contributed!

Here is exactly what I did (in the hopes it might help others with this same issue):

1- Updated DDU to current version (I was using old version on previous attempts)
2- Rebooted in safe mode and ran DDU (I was previously running in regular mode)
3- Installed latest Crimson drivers 17.11.2
    (At this point I did NOT try installing the Pixel patcher that was recommended)
4- Rebooted and updated Afterburner to v4.4.0
    (Font size and icon size seemed good at this point but when i checked watt-tool and AB & Device Mgr, nothing was showing up)
5- Downloaded Pixel-patcher and ran it
    https://www.monitortests.com/forum/Thread-AMD-ATI-Pixel-Clock-Patcher?page=1
6- Rebooted again and now everything in Dev Mgr & Watt-Tool was showing up ok
7- launched the new AB but everything was zero value and grayed out
8- opened up the dreaded AMD wattman
    a- switched all 6 GPUs from Graphics to Compute (WM had to restart each time)
    b- went in and lowered core and voltage settings and increased clock speeds (had to do this 6 times of course, again ridiculous)
     (watt-tool undervolts showed as before but they were NOT taking effect as my power draw prior to wattman changes was through the roof!)
9- Launched Claymore and speeds were very close to expected

Couple of issues still:
A- 1 of my 6 GPUs would not change from Graphics to Compute. I tried several times and it would not take effect. So that GPU is now running about 4 Mh/s slower than the other 5. Anyone know how to address this issue?

B- It took FOREVER to update all of those settings in wattman! Reminded me again how much I hated working with that POS before i discovered watt-tool and AB. 
My question here is... are these settings essentially saved there once applied? Or am i going to have to go through all of that again if that rig crashes or reboots?

Thanks again!



A - Are you sure it's not on Compute mode? After reboot it's still showing Graphics?
B - the settings are saved, so you don't have to do this every time ar reboot Smiley
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November 27, 2017, 10:37:24 PM
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Big thanks to the several people who posted tips to update my drivers for ETH + DCR mining! I was finally able to get my hashrate almost back to what it was earlier this year. I am still about 10-12 Mh/s short but this is much much closer than the 35-40 short i was per rig, so thank you very much to all that contributed!

Here is exactly what I did (in the hopes it might help others with this same issue):

1- Updated DDU to current version (I was using old version on previous attempts)
2- Rebooted in safe mode and ran DDU (I was previously running in regular mode)
3- Installed latest Crimson drivers 17.11.2
    (At this point I did NOT try installing the Pixel patcher that was recommended)
4- Rebooted and updated Afterburner to v4.4.0
    (Font size and icon size seemed good at this point but when i checked watt-tool and AB & Device Mgr, nothing was showing up)
5- Downloaded Pixel-patcher and ran it
    https://www.monitortests.com/forum/Thread-AMD-ATI-Pixel-Clock-Patcher?page=1
6- Rebooted again and now everything in Dev Mgr & Watt-Tool was showing up ok
7- launched the new AB but everything was zero value and grayed out
8- opened up the dreaded AMD wattman
    a- switched all 6 GPUs from Graphics to Compute (WM had to restart each time)
    b- went in and lowered core and voltage settings and increased clock speeds (had to do this 6 times of course, again ridiculous)
     (watt-tool undervolts showed as before but they were NOT taking effect as my power draw prior to wattman changes was through the roof!)
9- Launched Claymore and speeds were very close to expected

Couple of issues still:
A- 1 of my 6 GPUs would not change from Graphics to Compute. I tried several times and it would not take effect. So that GPU is now running about 4 Mh/s slower than the other 5. Anyone know how to address this issue?

B- It took FOREVER to update all of those settings in wattman! Reminded me again how much I hated working with that POS before i discovered watt-tool and AB. 
My question here is... are these settings essentially saved there once applied? Or am i going to have to go through all of that again if that rig crashes or reboots?

Thanks again!



A - Are you sure it's not on Compute mode? After reboot it's still showing Graphics?
B - the settings are saved, so you don't have to do this every time ar reboot Smiley

A- yeah, after a crash and reboot, that 6th GPU that was showing Grpahics before did indeed change to Compute, so that issue has been rectified
B- well, the Compute vs Graphics settings do indeed stay intact after crash/reboot, but sadly the actual individual settings (clock speed, undervolt, etc - all on the wattman tabs) do not save, even after hitting apply, so have to be reset after every reboot Sad  another posted recommended a 3rd party app that I will be trying soon, so hope to alleviate this as well.
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November 27, 2017, 10:57:15 PM
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Should I just get the Ver 1.0 then? Phil, do you have any left?



Yeah I have 1 for you

 are you usa based?

I can do  170 in btc shipped on monday via large flat rate.


you need a shorter card for first slot but  it may be better deal.

If you mine  7 x  1070's  set to 105 watts  = 735 watts 

running smos  this psu  is a good one on sale

https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=120-G2-1000-XR


No one has tested the newer model and it still has flaws.



I am running mine with 7 cards easy peasy no hassles

So you  have to pick your poison so to speak.

hey Phil... thanks for linking that EVGA 1kw PSU!  I just picked one up as that is by far the best price on this or any other good 1kw PSU i've seen in a long time! 

I am actually finally about to take the plunge into Nvidia mining so this PSU should be perfect for what I think might be a 6x 1070 rig.  I have eliminted both 1060's and 1080ti's from consideration but still trying to decide for sure between 1070/1070ti/1080.  All seem to be about the same cost/hash/watt/profitability ratio... at least from what I have gleaned so far.

Any recommendations between these 3?  I assume I can mix and match?  maybe something like 2 of each?  Any recommendation on brands? EVGA seems to be good in this space but seems like they have various versions even within say the 1070.  It's a bit confusing coming from Radeon-only GPUs so far, so any recommendations would be welcomed.

For instance, these 2 look identical spec wise but the 1st is $25 cheaper than the 2nd. I am missing a nuance? And is that nuance important for mining?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487265
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487248

Also, has anyone here put 1070ti's to use and compared vs regular 1070s?  What kind of difference hash-rate and wattage have you seen between the 2?
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Should I just get the Ver 1.0 then? Phil, do you have any left?




hey Phil... thanks for linking that EVGA 1kw PSU!  I just picked one up as that is by far the best price on this or any other good 1kw PSU i've seen in a long time!  

I am actually finally about to take the plunge into Nvidia mining so this PSU should be perfect for what I think might be a 6x 1070 rig.  I have eliminted both 1060's and 1080ti's from consideration but still trying to decide for sure between 1070/1070ti/1080.  All seem to be about the same cost/hash/watt/profitability ratio... at least from what I have gleaned so far.

Any recommendations between these 3?  I assume I can mix and match?  maybe something like 2 of each?  Any recommendation on brands? EVGA seems to be good in this space but seems like they have various versions even within say the 1070.  It's a bit confusing coming from Radeon-only GPUs so far, so any recommendations would be welcomed.

For instance, these 2 look identical spec wise but the 1st is $25 cheaper than the 2nd. I am missing a nuance? And is that nuance important for mining?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487265
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487248

Also, has anyone here put 1070ti's to use and compared vs regular 1070s?  What kind of difference hash-rate and wattage have you seen between the 2?

I can not tell the difference between them other then the part number.


I love my 1070ti's

https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=08G-P4-5678-KR

they get 500 sols using 130 watts

my 1070's get  only 465 sols using 130 watts

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November 27, 2017, 11:44:32 PM
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Should I just get the Ver 1.0 then? Phil, do you have any left?




hey Phil... thanks for linking that EVGA 1kw PSU!  I just picked one up as that is by far the best price on this or any other good 1kw PSU i've seen in a long time!  

I am actually finally about to take the plunge into Nvidia mining so this PSU should be perfect for what I think might be a 6x 1070 rig.  I have eliminted both 1060's and 1080ti's from consideration but still trying to decide for sure between 1070/1070ti/1080.  All seem to be about the same cost/hash/watt/profitability ratio... at least from what I have gleaned so far.

Any recommendations between these 3?  I assume I can mix and match?  maybe something like 2 of each?  Any recommendation on brands? EVGA seems to be good in this space but seems like they have various versions even within say the 1070.  It's a bit confusing coming from Radeon-only GPUs so far, so any recommendations would be welcomed.

For instance, these 2 look identical spec wise but the 1st is $25 cheaper than the 2nd. I am missing a nuance? And is that nuance important for mining?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487265
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487248

Also, has anyone here put 1070ti's to use and compared vs regular 1070s?  What kind of difference hash-rate and wattage have you seen between the 2?

I can not tell the difference between them other then the part number.


I love my 1070ti's

https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=08G-P4-5678-KR

they get 500 sols using 130 watts
My 1080's do 555 sols using 140W... Total system draw 800W at the wall with 5 cards.
Those 1070Ti are decent, but it's like always: a function of pricing. They are okay... But also a classic nVidia money grab! For a tad more money you can get a 1080, and a little more will buy you a Vega56 that will exterminate it in Cryptonight.
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November 28, 2017, 12:03:51 AM
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Hey Phil this single slot 1080Ti seems right up your alley.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/12076/evga-launches-single-slot-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-kngpn-hydro-copper

Edit:  Well aside from the crazy price

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November 28, 2017, 02:39:24 AM
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Hey Phil this single slot 1080Ti seems right up your alley.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/12076/evga-launches-single-slot-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-kngpn-hydro-copper

Edit:  Well aside from the crazy price

1249  fuck them   stupid price.



849  one for the heck of it

1249 no

I would like to see the zotac mini waterblock card go on sale

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/zotac-1080-ti-arcticstorm-mini,35734.html


I would pay a premium for this if I can find it.


@ dragonmike  I have purchased all my 1070ti's at an okay price.
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when at the prices above  the 1070 ti hybrid is better then the 1070 hybrid

and close to an exact tie with the 1080.


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1070 Ti Hybrid:  $500 at NewEgg


https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487390&ignorebbr=1

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1070 Ti Hybrid:  $500 at NewEgg


https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487390&ignorebbr=1

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November 28, 2017, 10:46:56 AM
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460-470 sol/s on a GTX 1070 ti running at 106 watts +200 core +700 memory - working both of my EVGA SC 1070 ti, the bunch Voskcoin used in his rig in his video, 6 more in a rig I helped build as a consulting job last week, and the Zotac Mini I got today.

1080 hits almost identical figures, but costs typically 10% or so more for the "same model" card.
 +100 core +100 memory seems to be the optimal point for the EVGA SC and Zotac Mini 1080 models, haven't done a lot of fine tuning on the rest of my 1080 collection yet (mostly Gigabytes).

1070 has to push a lot harder and runs noticeably less efficiently to get anywhere near that ballpark, but it DOES tend to cost a fair bit less.
 I've not done any "most efficient point" testing on my 1070 collection yet, as they're all low enough power that I can run them at higher TDP % to maximise hashrate (they're also all in left-over FAH 3-card rigs at this point).




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November 28, 2017, 12:53:45 PM
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460-470 sol/s on a GTX 1070 ti running at 106 watts +200 core +700 memory - working both of my EVGA SC 1070 ti, the bunch Voskcoin used in his rig in his video, 6 more in a rig I helped build as a consulting job last week, and the Zotac Mini I got today.

1080 hits almost identical figures, but costs typically 10% or so more for the "same model" card.
 +100 core +100 memory seems to be the optimal point for the EVGA SC and Zotac Mini 1080 models, haven't done a lot of fine tuning on the rest of my 1080 collection yet (mostly Gigabytes).

1070 has to push a lot harder and runs noticeably less efficiently to get anywhere near that ballpark, but it DOES tend to cost a fair bit less.
 I've not done any "most efficient point" testing on my 1070 collection yet, as they're all low enough power that I can run them at higher TDP % to maximise hashrate (they're also all in left-over FAH 3-card rigs at this point).




did you try it with zm miner too ? because i get around 478 - 491 on 1070 with it and 580 on gtx 1080 with 550 memory and 120 cclock tdp 90 %
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460-470 sol/s on a GTX 1070 ti running at 106 watts +200 core +700 memory - working both of my EVGA SC 1070 ti, the bunch Voskcoin used in his rig in his video, 6 more in a rig I helped build as a consulting job last week, and the Zotac Mini I got today.

1080 hits almost identical figures, but costs typically 10% or so more for the "same model" card.
 +100 core +100 memory seems to be the optimal point for the EVGA SC and Zotac Mini 1080 models, haven't done a lot of fine tuning on the rest of my 1080 collection yet (mostly Gigabytes).

1070 has to push a lot harder and runs noticeably less efficiently to get anywhere near that ballpark, but it DOES tend to cost a fair bit less.
 I've not done any "most efficient point" testing on my 1070 collection yet, as they're all low enough power that I can run them at higher TDP % to maximise hashrate (they're also all in left-over FAH 3-card rigs at this point).




did you try it with zm miner too ? because i get around 478 - 491 on 1070 with it and 580 on gtx 1080 with 550 memory and 120 cclock tdp 90 %

Not there yet.  Is it on smos?


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November 28, 2017, 01:23:46 PM
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1080 hits almost identical figures, but costs typically 10% or so more for the "same model" card.
 +100 core +100 memory seems to be the optimal point for the EVGA SC and Zotac Mini 1080 models, haven't done a lot of fine tuning on the rest of my 1080 collection yet (mostly Gigabytes).
Nah, 1080's do over 550 and that's at 80% tdp (+110 core). Higher at 90%, as halker2010 mentioned above. DSTM's zm miner works better than EWBF.

Again, we shouldn't be debating raw speed. We should be debating speed&efficiency vs price. If you overpay your 1070Ti you're getting a bad deal vs a 1080 and a Vega. nVidia placed the 1070Ti as a short-term "answer" to Vega for gaming needs, mostly. Do your homework as a miner and know what you are paying, and what you'll be getting for that money.
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November 28, 2017, 01:51:10 PM
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Hey guys just put together my latest rig. . its a 12x 1060 3gb evga superclocked miner, ideally I want it on ETH for the time being as that's projected to be the most profitable and I've been only doing equihash builds lately

getting ~21.5 mh/s on these cards with 100 core 700 mem and 70 PL on claymore 10

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2467999.msg25281155

here's a link to the thread with parts and video // here's the video again if anyones interested -- think I could take performance any further?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxBYbAAtXWA


On my Zotac P106-100, 200/1400/100w gets me around 23Mhs on smOS/Claymore10.

Hanging cards on both sides 6 by 6 (like an upside down "V") will give more room to ventilate.

Metal frame racks better than "plastic" frame... keep the plastic rack for your storage, and get a metal open cage rack.

Below my 12xGPU rigs on Biostar B250 12xGPU mobo with single Delta 2400w server PSU - cards are 6+6=12 x RX470s.

The Delta is also hung with s hooks, with exhaust pointing upwards.



On another note:

The ONDA D1800 boards will move to old farm soon for the 390s and Nanos, so the P106s will now go to the Asus 19xGPU board.

18 x P106-100 Batman rig coming up soon.... with nvOC.

Agreed I have a metal rack on order, just used the plastic rack as it was just simply there, the upside down v is interesting //// give me your farm citronick lol

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November 28, 2017, 01:55:40 PM
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@ dragonmike  I have purchased all my 1070ti's at an okay price.
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1070 Ti Hybrid:  $500 at NewEgg


https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487390&ignorebbr=1

make it better join retailmenot  and get 25 cashback

https://www.retailmenot.com/rebates/online/2/9381780


if you don't pay tax  it is 475

that's a pretty sweet deal, basically getting hydro @ the price of other TI's atm (non-hydro version)

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November 28, 2017, 02:23:33 PM
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To be honest, Just get the GPU type that is on sale/lower price than usual.  I got some 1080s for cheaper than 1070tis some time back.  And with profitability right now ( and if you have low electric cost ) its profitable to get old GPU's too, 7950, 7970, 280x, mod them and stick em on equihash for example.  If you have the room/space/etc.
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November 28, 2017, 02:41:14 PM
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To be honest, Just get the GPU type that is on sale/lower price than usual.  I got some 1080s for cheaper than 1070tis some time back.  And with profitability right now ( and if you have low electric cost ) its profitable to get old GPU's too, 7950, 7970, 280x, mod them and stick em on equihash for example.  If you have the room/space/etc.

yeah  price is king

next is sols per watt

then rma service


here is a decent card at a decent price


https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=08G-P4-5170-RX




my first rma today of a 1080 ti  the msi aero  is not detected   on 3 different boards.

and a question  my asus  1080 ti turbo fan is dying  any repair tips?

I know I can simply stick a bgears turbo fan  and problem solved.


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November 28, 2017, 03:19:01 PM
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Phil - I finally got my Avalon up and running. I'm pointed at nicehash , I don't like the pool is on west coast and I am east coast.

What sha256 pool do you recommend. ?

@cintronick or anyone else your input is always valued as well !
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