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August 26, 2014, 09:49:31 PM
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getting IXC from merged mining, should I hold or just trade them for BTC?

Given you're getting like 5 coins per month I would say it's not worth it to sell them.

If you have a lot more then I would say the best strategy is to diversify your coin holdings.

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August 26, 2014, 09:52:14 PM
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getting IXC from merged mining, should I hold or just trade them for BTC?

if you want purchasing power and value   sell them for BTC (not risky)

if you want to speculate on ixcoin rising   hold them (risky)
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August 27, 2014, 01:55:26 AM
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My guess is Thomas is a big Bitcoin holder and since Bitcoin has risen in price so much since 2011 his get rich iXcoin scheme is no longer important to him.  That would explain why he's only on the iXcoin forum once every few months.  He has no reason to dump iXcoin because he doesn't need the money and wouldn't get much for it anyway.  He keeps paying out bounties because he's following his original plan, just not so aggressively.  That's my take on why he behaves as he does.


Ok, so he did a premine with the intent to scam but then got unexpectedly rich like 1 month later?  3 months later?  1 year later?

No, that theory has a massive hole in it.  Bitcoin didn't take off for quite some time after IXC was launched and at that time Thomas spent more BTC launching IXC than the entire value of the IXC premine.  Not a very good way to make money off premines.

And, right after the coin was launched he was buying IXC on the open market, something premine dumping scammers NEVER do, which means he was NEVER in need of the premine money.

If he had gotten rich off Bitcoin after the launch it would have been more than 1 year later by which time he would have dumped the premine if that was his original intention and he would have never spent BTC to buy an overpriced IXC if he knew it was a premine pump and dump.

So once again, the most plausible conclusion points to a premeditated - well thought-out [long term] plan.

But who at that time could have planned something so sophisticated and had that kind of vision [about cryptos and Bitcoin] so many years ahead of everyone else?


I think the odds are GREAT that Thomas is a well known big name Bitcoin insider.  But who could it be?

I didn't say iXcoin was a pump and dump scam.  I doubt that was his intent or he would have dumped all his coins by now.  He probably just wanted to get in on the ground floor on a new coin.  Remember this was a time when basically only Bitcoin existed.  Namecoin started less than two weeks before iXcoin so the iXcoin planning was already well underway and expected to be only the second coin in existence.  So there would be a good chance to get the jump on other coins and share the world with Bitcoin.

It makes more sense that Thomas planned to support iXcoin long term, and he is.  So I'm agreeing with you that it was a long term plan.  I don't know if I'd say it was well thought out since the crypto world was and is too new and unpredictable to plan the future all that well.  

So if it was a long term plan it appears he set aside the premine for iXcoin updates, and bought more iXcoin for his own nest egg.  Sounds like a legitimate and relatively fair plan to me.  I think the complaints about the premine are unfounded as long as he continues to pay out bounties.

In the mean time Bitcoin made him wealthy and he's obviously very busy so he just doesn't spend much time on iXcoin.  

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August 27, 2014, 02:02:55 AM
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ok so is this coin gone? no point to invest here anymore.
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August 27, 2014, 02:07:01 AM
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ok so is this coin gone? no point to invest here anymore.

Not true because now there's a much more involved support group.  iXcoin has a great future.

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Last edit: August 27, 2014, 03:14:24 AM by kraizi
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Do you mind revealing your alter-ego?

Yes

And please don't compare me to Mark Karpeles. I might be flaky, but I haven't stolen anyone's money.

Question: why is the website ixcoin.org not yet mirroring ixcoin.co?  Angry

Please Nasakioto, do it.

Work hard as IXC was your own coin... Ah! But ... It is your coin...  Grin

I've been distracted lately with the Mtgox debacle. But I'm trying to get the website back up. I'd like to keep a separate domain for the .org with a placeholder page with prominent links to ixcoin.co . I'm getting nowhere with basicnetworks.net so I've just registered with someone else. Waiting for them to invoice me in bitcoin.



According to his statements above, Thomas quite possibly worked for Mtgox, but isn't Karpeles.  Even so, he should be loaded with Bitcoin.

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August 27, 2014, 02:24:26 AM
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ok so is this coin gone? no point to invest here anymore.

Not true because now there's a much more involved support group.  iXcoin has a great future.



I heard that months ago and today I came back here and this coin is going down and down sombody was saying that this coin

is Bitcoin twins the price will go higher like the Bitcoin one but nothing,what the price prediction per coin now? just your opinion

I know that is not possible to predicte the price.
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August 27, 2014, 03:13:01 AM
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ok so is this coin gone? no point to invest here anymore.

Not true because now there's a much more involved support group.  iXcoin has a great future.



I heard that months ago and today I came back here and this coin is going down and down sombody was saying that this coin

is Bitcoin twins the price will go higher like the Bitcoin one but nothing,what the price prediction per coin now? just your opinion

I know that is not possible to predicte the price.

All altcoins are in a price decline, not just iXcoin.  Bitcoin has been dragging everything down, and all will likely go lower still.  But this too shall pass.

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August 27, 2014, 03:43:14 AM
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ok so is this coin gone? no point to invest here anymore.


Correct, dump any iXCoin you have before it goes to zero.

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August 27, 2014, 03:47:15 AM
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But this too shall pass.




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August 27, 2014, 03:50:28 AM
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According to his statements above, Thomas quite possibly worked for Mtgox, but isn't Karpeles.  Even so, he should be loaded with Bitcoin.




Then explain this:  When he came back about 8 months ago and the .org site was totally gone he said he lost it cause he didn't have the ~$80 and that he would try to get the money to get it back.

He said this while sitting on a huge premine and supposedly a Bitcoin early adopter.

This is what I mean, nothing about Thomas Nasakioto adds up.  Nothing. It's all some sort of game, a ruse and the only question is:  What is the plan and who is Thomas Nasakioto.


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August 27, 2014, 06:47:28 AM
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According to his statements above, Thomas quite possibly worked for Mtgox, but isn't Karpeles.  Even so, he should be loaded with Bitcoin.




Then explain this:  When he came back about 8 months ago and the .org site was totally gone he said he lost it cause he didn't have the ~$80 and that he would try to get the money to get it back.

He said this while sitting on a huge premine and supposedly a Bitcoin early adopter.

This is what I mean, nothing about Thomas Nasakioto adds up.  Nothing. It's all some sort of game, a ruse and the only question is:  What is the plan and who is Thomas Nasakioto.


I took that to mean he needed to find the time to renew the domain, not that he didn't have the money. 

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August 27, 2014, 08:05:02 AM
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I took that to mean he needed to find the time to renew the domain, not that he didn't have the money.  



No, he implied that the cost was $80 and he needed to find the money.  I nearly pooped my pantaloni when I saw him say that.  

I can probably find that post since he only makes like 3 posts per year.  Lol.   And we can take a closer look at Mr. hiding for no reason.

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August 27, 2014, 03:04:35 PM
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About the website: I hope ixcoin.org will simply mirror what ixcoin.co will be. The reason is simple: I made an effort to convince websites to update the address of the official website, while others did not do it. Having both it will give anyone the chance to be updated to the last developments.


The previous host for ixcoin.org wants $85 because of the bandwidth over-usage charge. I had no idea a $5/year hosting plan could generate $85 without blocking the account way before for over-usage. I'm not sure it is worth going back to this host if such things are possible. I'd like to find another cheap host to host the old ixcoin.org page. I'm fine with ixcoin.org mirroring ixcoin.co if everybody else is. ixcoin.co would need a bit of cleanup first though. Can we use the old logo?


Found it.  That is a bit mysterious if he's rich, and high bandwidth usage charges should be a good thing.  It means people are interested in iXcoin.
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August 27, 2014, 07:21:20 PM
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Found it.  That is a bit mysterious if he's rich, and high bandwidth usage charges should be a good thing.  It means people are interested in iXcoin.



Thanks for finding that.  Ok so he didn't say he didn't have $85, I just understood it that way cause he was acting like that was so much money.  For a supposed rich guy and one holding a large valuable premine, to let the main website die over $85 and to make the effort to look for a cheaper one where he may save [at most] a few dollars, is well, broke.  That's why I had the impression that he was either broke or still playing his usual games.

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August 28, 2014, 04:02:48 AM
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I just put a big block for sale on Cryptsy:  17,000 iXCoins at 6277 Satoshi.  I hope this is the last iXCoins I have to sell to pay bills.

Just in case anyone wanted to buy a bigger block all at once, it's out there right now.  My average buy price is ~12,000 Satoshi so I am selling at a big loss, just like the last few hundred thousand iXCoins which I have had to sell.

My loss, your gain.

Cheers!



Edit:  If this last block sells I will be down to roughly 1% IXC holdings or ~210,000 iXCoins.  Still a very respectable amount but it breaks my heart to have had to sell-off all these iXCoins; especially at such a big loss.  Maybe the price will keep dropping for a few months and I'll have a chance to buy some of these coins back, but I seriously doubt that since I expect Bitcoin to boom in the next 30-60 days.

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August 28, 2014, 04:16:56 AM
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My top 5 guesses of who Thomas really is, in order of most likely to least likely:


1)  Gavin Andresen

2)  Hal

3)  Jeff Garzic

4)  Nick Zsabo

5)  Satoshi Nakamoto


I know.  That's insane.  But unless someone can give me just one plausible explanation for all these crazy things I have found then I have to assume there is another logical explanation and for now this is the most logical. 

Unless Thomas is just a bored nutjob but bored nutjobs don't create such perfectly crafted multi-year plans and then execute them like a pro.



Thomas was outted way back in mid 2011.

His identity is no mystery.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=37502.0


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August 28, 2014, 04:34:04 AM
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Thomas was outted way back in mid 2011.

His identity is no mystery.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=37502.0


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I read that entire thread more than once and I saw no conclusive proof so I wouldn't presume Thomas was outed.

I know Oldminer pretty well and I am pretty certain he's not Thomas. 

Oldminer is on this forum daily, no reason then for Thomas to only log on once every few months unless there's a real purpose for it which would take us right back again to a premeditated plan.

Oldminer is not rich in any way, if he had a premine worth a bunch of Bitcoins I'm pretty sure he would have sold some of it or maybe all of it by now.

Finally, if Oldminer was Thomas he would most likely trust me with at least access to his github files and the dot org domain.  The fact Thomas trusts no-one says a lot about who he is or what kind of a person he is, or perhaps that the choice is not his to be made which I think is the most likely reason as I still believe Thomas was simply contracted for the job [anonymously] and he doesn't even know who he's working for [yet].

These [and other facts] are stronger proof that Oldminer is not Thomas, more so than the flimsy circumstantial evidence which suggests that he is Thomas.


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August 28, 2014, 05:12:27 AM
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Thomas was outted way back in mid 2011.

His identity is no mystery.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=37502.0


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I read that entire thread more than once and I saw no conclusive proof so I wouldn't presume Thomas was outed.

I know Oldminer pretty well and I am pretty certain he's not Thomas. 

Oldminer is on this forum daily, no reason then for Thomas to only log on once every few months unless there's a real purpose for it which would take us right back again to a premeditated plan.

Oldminer is not rich in any way, if he had a premine worth a bunch of Bitcoins I'm pretty sure he would have sold some of it or maybe all of it by now.

Finally, if Oldminer was Thomas he would most likely trust me with at least access to his github files and the dot org domain.  The fact Thomas trusts no-one says a lot about who he is or what kind of a person he is, or perhaps that the choice is not his to be made which I think is the most likely reason as I still believe Thomas was simply contracted for the job [anonymously] and he doesn't even know who he's working for [yet].

These [and other facts] are stronger proof that Oldminer is not Thomas, more so than the flimsy circumstantial evidence which suggests that he is Thomas.







You're reading that thread with about 50+ replies deleted.

TN is Old Miner.

I know it's very disappointing but true.


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August 28, 2014, 05:18:47 AM
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You're reading that thread with about 50+ replies deleted.

TN is Old Miner.

I know it's very disappointing but true.


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How do you know this for sure?  

Look, I wanna believe the truth but the truth usually makes sense and this stuff just doesn't.  

So tell me what reason would oldminer have to be on this forum daily but only log on as Thomas a few times per year?  Why damage iXcoin's rep [even more] and make himself look bad?  If it's cause he doesn't care about IXC then why hold onto so many iXCoins for so many years and still pay out the large bounties?

If oldminer is Thomas then the most plausible explanation is that he is a contractor and he is told what to do and when to log on and what to post by whoever hired him originally.

But I still don't see it.  I've read Thomas' posts and oldminer is very different - oldminer is not exactly polite to people who treat him badly, while Thomas was always courteous and well spoken with even the most aggressive trolls.  


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