[DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated

[sidhujag]

Hey, does anyone know how often is the https://github.com/Unthinkingbit/charity/blob/master/devtome_31.csv is updated? And also is the phone wallet going to be available for iOS?
Thanks so much,
-AM

Apple banned trading crypto-currencies as I think they want to unleash their own. Android is the only one.

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[bit-fxtrader]

This also has the advantage of making times when the prices go low be nice times, times you look forward to, because they are times when your lowball buy offers get gobbled up, giving you lots and lots of coins to sit back up on the sell side as highball offers ready for the next upswing.

Plus Vircurex even pays you to have bitcoins sitting there, so your lowball offers are earning bitcoins for you in the meantime.

You can also save on Vircurex fees by signing up using a referral URL.

( Such as mine, which is https://vircurex.com/welcome/index?referral_id=597-1636 )

-MarkM-

You mean vircurex pays you when your limit orders get executed? How much do they pay out?

[dalamar96]

Hey, does anyone know how often is the https://github.com/Unthinkingbit/charity/blob/master/devtome_31.csv is updated? And also is the phone wallet going to be available for iOS?
Thanks so much,
-AM

31 will not be updated much since it is done being updated. 32 is updated nightly.  The number at the end is the round number, we are in round 32. The previous round is updated a couple of times after the end of the round to be sure all the information is up to date and finalized.

Chad

[Hunterbunter]

Hey, does anyone know how often is the https://github.com/Unthinkingbit/charity/blob/master/devtome_31.csv is updated?

The one at http://d.evco.in/charity/ is updated more often than the one there. You can also look somewhere like http://dvccountdown.blisteringdevelopers.com for round information (which reads d.evco.in data).

I can tell you that I have spent years trying to develop my skills as a writer. I know there are devs out there who have spent just as long, if not longer, refining their own toolset.

My personal strategy is to create material that is not available elsewhere. I want to do draw those people in. I don't think a mindset of writing vs. developing is a fair comparison.

My last eight (or so) submissions have taken no less than 60 hours to produce. When you calculate my earnings, that isn't much compared with what I'm paid professionally to produce training publications.

I'm just putting that out there.

would you mind sharing how much was it per word? I looked at this link
http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=earn_devcoins_by_writing
but as i'm new, It's very confusing

Writer myself, mainly finance/forex. Can I participate in the project or is only crypto related work paid?

Everyone's earnings are quite transparent, so you can look through the csv files at the master github to get shares per round/words per round and work out devcoins earned per word. Then you can convert it to $usd yourself with one of the tickers somewhere (although the price is extremely volatile, so it's hard to gauge actual earnings). http://dvccountdown.blisteringdevelopers.com/devtome lets you filter by username and round, and you can use the price ticker here or elsewhere: http://dvcusdchart.blisteringdevelopers.com/

eg for me:
http://dvccountdown.blisteringdevelopers.com/devtome/31/hunterbunter tells me I submitted 23825 words during round 31 earning 24 shares. It was paid out at 144810 devcoins per share, so I got 145.87 devcoins per word (approx equal to all writers that round, give or take earnings multiplier etc), which works out to about $0.0656 per word. EDIT: make that $0.085 per word...volatility.

[ampere9765]

i see a lot of very cool stuff happening in here. 

i noticed the forum is up. will this discussion be moved over there? looks nice btw.

[bit-fxtrader]

Hey, does anyone know how often is the https://github.com/Unthinkingbit/charity/blob/master/devtome_31.csv is updated?

The one at http://d.evco.in/charity/ is updated more often than the one there. You can also look somewhere like http://dvccountdown.blisteringdevelopers.com for round information (which reads d.evco.in data).

I can tell you that I have spent years trying to develop my skills as a writer. I know there are devs out there who have spent just as long, if not longer, refining their own toolset.

My personal strategy is to create material that is not available elsewhere. I want to do draw those people in. I don't think a mindset of writing vs. developing is a fair comparison.

My last eight (or so) submissions have taken no less than 60 hours to produce. When you calculate my earnings, that isn't much compared with what I'm paid professionally to produce training publications.

I'm just putting that out there.

would you mind sharing how much was it per word? I looked at this link
http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=earn_devcoins_by_writing
but as i'm new, It's very confusing

Writer myself, mainly finance/forex. Can I participate in the project or is only crypto related work paid?

Everyone's earnings are quite transparent, so you can look through the csv files at the master github to get shares per round/words per round and work out devcoins earned per word. Then you can convert it to $usd yourself with one of the tickers somewhere (although the price is extremely volatile, so it's hard to gauge actual earnings). dvccountdown.blisteringdevelopers.com/devtome lets you filter by username and round, and you can use the price ticker here or elsewhere: http://dvcusdchart.blisteringdevelopers.com/

eg for me:
http://dvccountdown.blisteringdevelopers.com/devtome/31/hunterbunter tells me I submitted 23825 words during round 31 earning 24 shares. It was paid out at 144810 devcoins per share, so I got 145.87 devcoins per word (approx equal to all writers that round, give or take earnings multiplier etc), which works out to about $0.0656 per word.

Thanks, all clear now.

I did more reading and I see there is a word limit per round of 50k, extra words are transferred to next round. And 1 round lasts around one month correct?

[Hunterbunter]

Thanks, all clear now. Is signup restricted, do I have to undergo some vetting process or can I just start writing?

I did more reading and I see there is a word limit per round of 50k, extra words are transferred to next round. And 1 round lasts one month correct?

The rounds are measured in 4000 blocks of devcoin, which is approx 27-30 days. You can see the block countdown and stuff here: http://dvccountdown.blisteringdevelopers.com , with submission deadlines for the round and when it'll be paid out etc, as well as search by username/round to see how many shares you can expect.

It's a little restricted, but not unreasonably so. You need to apply to be a writer using your bitcointalk username (by contacting the appropriate admin). You can find everything you need to become a writer here: http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=earn_devcoins_by_writing and here: http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=how_to_get_setup_earning_devcoins_by_writing

[bit-fxtrader]

Thanks, all clear now. Is signup restricted, do I have to undergo some vetting process or can I just start writing?

I did more reading and I see there is a word limit per round of 50k, extra words are transferred to next round. And 1 round lasts one month correct?

The rounds are measured in 4000 blocks of devcoin, which is approx 27-30 days. You can see the block countdown and stuff here: http://dvccountdown.blisteringdevelopers.com , with submission deadlines for the round and when it'll be paid out etc, as well as search by username/round to see how many shares you can expect.

It's a little restricted, but not unreasonably so. You need to apply to be a writer using your bitcointalk username (by contacting the appropriate admin). You can find everything you need to become a writer here: http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=earn_devcoins_by_writing and here: http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=how_to_get_setup_earning_devcoins_by_writing

Thanks, appreciate the help. Looks like my contact person is Fuzzybear

[dalamar96]

Thanks, appreciate the help. Looks like my contact person is Fuzzybear

That is correct Just send him a private message with a writing example (will help speed things along since he will probably ask for one) of about 100-200 words or so

Chad

[weisoq]

Quick question to each of you DevCoin earners out there:
 
What would DevCoin earners want to regularly spend their DevCoin on?

If someone has already mention your idea please repeat it so I can get some idea of numbers...

Responses will be collated and reported back to this thread.

Maybe you will get your wish.  

P.S. If there is a better way of doing this please point me to it.

Thanks

e-cigarette cartridges and bits
guitar strings
contact lenses

[smeagol]

Hey, does anyone know how often is the https://github.com/Unthinkingbit/charity/blob/master/devtome_31.csv is updated? And also is the phone wallet going to be available for iOS?
Thanks so much,
-AM

Apple banned trading crypto-currencies as I think they want to unleash their own. Android is the only one.

Can't we make an app that is not on the app store?  e.g. the GBA4iOS app?

[dalamar96]

Apple banned trading crypto-currencies as I think they want to unleash their own. Android is the only one.

Can't we make an app that is not on the app store?  e.g. the GBA4iOS app?

Don't you have to compile it yourself and deploy it from X-Code to the phone or is there a way to install it? I guess for this community that wouldn't be much of a problem, but I know my wife would kill me if I told her she had to do that to get an app on her phone

[sidhujag]

Hey, does anyone know how often is the https://github.com/Unthinkingbit/charity/blob/master/devtome_31.csv is updated? And also is the phone wallet going to be available for iOS?
Thanks so much,
-AM

Apple banned trading crypto-currencies as I think they want to unleash their own. Android is the only one.

Can't we make an app that is not on the app store?  e.g. the GBA4iOS app?

Not worth it if you have to jump hoops to install the damn thing. An app just to show info sure but to trade I think is prob not worth the devs time.

[markm]

This also has the advantage of making times when the prices go low be nice times, times you look forward to, because they are times when your lowball buy offers get gobbled up, giving you lots and lots of coins to sit back up on the sell side as highball offers ready for the next upswing.

Plus Vircurex even pays you to have bitcoins sitting there, so your lowball offers are earning bitcoins for you in the meantime.

You can also save on Vircurex fees by signing up using a referral URL.

( Such as mine, which is https://vircurex.com/welcome/index?referral_id=597-1636 )

-MarkM-

You mean vircurex pays you when your limit orders get executed? How much do they pay out?

No, apparently every few hours, maybe three tiimes a day or somesuch, a portion of fees gets divided up among people who have balances of certain coins, of which bitcoin is one. So the more bitcoins you have the more you get. I do not know if each of the three currencies uses fees only from pairs involving that currency or all fees are bundled then divided among balances of those lucky currencies.

But basiccally it seems to mean if you leave bitcoins on the exchange they earn, so if you have lots of lowball offers in place to buy things using bitcoins the earnings you get for leavign the bitcoins there should help make up for leaving the bitcoins "idle" in the form of offers that will only get acted upon when some extreme low price comes along.

For example I have offers to buy DeVCoins for one Satoshi each. Probably those offers will never be accepted by any sellers. But so what, the bitcoins presumably are earning anyway so parking them in lowball offers is just a way to keep me from accidentally spending them while also being a way to be sure if such an insanely low price ever does happen along I am there waiting to snap it up.

It helps me to not worry about how to low to fill the buy side with lowball offers. I just fill it to the very bottom.

-MarkM-

[ranlo]

This also has the advantage of making times when the prices go low be nice times, times you look forward to, because they are times when your lowball buy offers get gobbled up, giving you lots and lots of coins to sit back up on the sell side as highball offers ready for the next upswing.

Plus Vircurex even pays you to have bitcoins sitting there, so your lowball offers are earning bitcoins for you in the meantime.

You can also save on Vircurex fees by signing up using a referral URL.

( Such as mine, which is https://vircurex.com/welcome/index?referral_id=597-1636 )

-MarkM-

You mean vircurex pays you when your limit orders get executed? How much do they pay out?

No, apparently every few hours, maybe three tiimes a day or somesuch, a portion of fees gets divided up among people who have balances of certain coins, of which bitcoin is one. So the more bitcoins you have the more you get. I do not know if each of the three currencies uses fees only from pairs involving that currency or all fees are bundled then divided among balances of those lucky currencies.

But basiccally it seems to mean if you leave bitcoins on the exchange they earn, so if you have lots of lowball offers in place to buy things using bitcoins the earnings you get for leavign the bitcoins there should help make up for leaving the bitcoins "idle" in the form of offers that will only get acted upon when some extreme low price comes along.

For example I have offers to buy DeVCoins for one Satoshi each. Probably those offers will never be accepted by any sellers. But so what, the bitcoins presumably are earning anyway so parking them in lowball offers is just a way to keep me from accidentally spending them while also being a way to be sure if such an insanely low price ever does happen along I am there waiting to snap it up.

It helps me to not worry about how to low to fill the buy side with lowball offers. I just fill it to the very bottom.

-MarkM-

To help clarify:

Interest is paid out every 6 hours
Interest is based on ALL x coins taken in fees (ie. BTC will include all pairs, being that all are paired with BTC)
Interest earned is somewhat low: over the past 24 hours with 6.5 BTC there, I've earned 0.00014 BTC in interest. So it'd be 32 years to earn one Bitcoin worth of the interest there. But, it is given whereas the Bitcoin would otherwise be sitting in a wallet earning absolutely nothing.

[emfox]

newest wallet(devcoind on linux x32) and android wallet(1.0.1) tested, basically it all works like a charm, great work! I tested the new windows version of qt gui, sending receiving via qr code from and to android wallet, everything works.

and some minor issues:

1. devcoind need to be compiled dynamically, i'd manually removed the '--static' flag. If not, the compilation finished but it report "cannot find file or directory" while starting devcoind;

2. I suppose the android wallet does not compatible with old devcoin nodes yet? because it cannot connect to any peer, so I let it point to my own node which has deployed the newest devcoind (d.evco.in with default port), and it works.

Hey man,

I pushed the changes tot he make file I removed the static flag and uploaded 1.0.13 to http://sourceforge.net/projects/devcoin/files/

Please provide a zip package with the linux x32 build.

for devcoind, it's ok and built, but as I came to devcoin-qt (never touch this before), I found linux build messed up by some windows clutters in bitcoin-qt.pro, so I pulled a new bitcoin-qt.pro from official bitcoin 0.8.5 and manually add curl and auxpow, then it built.

I admit they need a lot of .so files while we build them dynamically, I've put most uncommon ones into the tarball (the more common such as libz I think they are installed in most linux system), so please test if there's anything wrong:

http://d.evco.in/test/devcoin.tar.gz

[sidhujag]

Download 1.0.2 devcoinj at http://sourceforge.net/projects/devcoin/files/devcoinj/

Working with default USD ticker!

I went through all language strings manually and converted them to devcoin, took a while!

Please try 1.0.3 and see if all of the references to bitcoin are gone.

Thanks,
Jag

[sidhujag]

newest wallet(devcoind on linux x32) and android wallet(1.0.1) tested, basically it all works like a charm, great work! I tested the new windows version of qt gui, sending receiving via qr code from and to android wallet, everything works.

and some minor issues:

1. devcoind need to be compiled dynamically, i'd manually removed the '--static' flag. If not, the compilation finished but it report "cannot find file or directory" while starting devcoind;

2. I suppose the android wallet does not compatible with old devcoin nodes yet? because it cannot connect to any peer, so I let it point to my own node which has deployed the newest devcoind (d.evco.in with default port), and it works.

Hey man,

I pushed the changes tot he make file I removed the static flag and uploaded 1.0.13 to http://sourceforge.net/projects/devcoin/files/

Please provide a zip package with the linux x32 build.

for devcoind, it's ok and built, but as I came to devcoin-qt (never touch this before), I found linux build messed up by some windows clutters in bitcoin-qt.pro, so I pulled a new bitcoin-qt.pro from official bitcoin 0.8.5 and manually add curl and auxpow, then it built.

I admit they need a lot of .so files while we build them dynamically, I've put most uncommon ones into the tarball (the more common such as libz I think they are installed in most linux system), so please test if there's anything wrong:

http://d.evco.in/test/devcoin.tar.gz

I can't test if anythings wrong as Im not running on linux, my work machine is win64. You need to be sure this is good so we can package it up in the installer. I think later I or someone else can figure out how the getian builder works so maybe it will build on all platforms automatically using VM's.

[emfox]

newest wallet(devcoind on linux x32) and android wallet(1.0.1) tested, basically it all works like a charm, great work! I tested the new windows version of qt gui, sending receiving via qr code from and to android wallet, everything works.

and some minor issues:

1. devcoind need to be compiled dynamically, i'd manually removed the '--static' flag. If not, the compilation finished but it report "cannot find file or directory" while starting devcoind;

2. I suppose the android wallet does not compatible with old devcoin nodes yet? because it cannot connect to any peer, so I let it point to my own node which has deployed the newest devcoind (d.evco.in with default port), and it works.

Hey man,

I pushed the changes tot he make file I removed the static flag and uploaded 1.0.13 to http://sourceforge.net/projects/devcoin/files/

Please provide a zip package with the linux x32 build.

for devcoind, it's ok and built, but as I came to devcoin-qt (never touch this before), I found linux build messed up by some windows clutters in bitcoin-qt.pro, so I pulled a new bitcoin-qt.pro from official bitcoin 0.8.5 and manually add curl and auxpow, then it built.

I admit they need a lot of .so files while we build them dynamically, I've put most uncommon ones into the tarball (the more common such as libz I think they are installed in most linux system), so please test if there's anything wrong:

http://d.evco.in/test/devcoin.tar.gz

I can't test if anythings wrong as Im not running on linux, my work machine is win64. You need to be sure this is good so we can package it up in the installer. I think later I or someone else can figure out how the getian builder works so maybe it will build on all platforms automatically using VM's.

No I'm not so sure this package is all ok, since I hacked the build scripts everywhere and not sure everything will be ok. so it's my purpose if any one else could test it first...

[sidhujag]

newest wallet(devcoind on linux x32) and android wallet(1.0.1) tested, basically it all works like a charm, great work! I tested the new windows version of qt gui, sending receiving via qr code from and to android wallet, everything works.

and some minor issues:

1. devcoind need to be compiled dynamically, i'd manually removed the '--static' flag. If not, the compilation finished but it report "cannot find file or directory" while starting devcoind;

2. I suppose the android wallet does not compatible with old devcoin nodes yet? because it cannot connect to any peer, so I let it point to my own node which has deployed the newest devcoind (d.evco.in with default port), and it works.

Hey man,

I pushed the changes tot he make file I removed the static flag and uploaded 1.0.13 to http://sourceforge.net/projects/devcoin/files/

Please provide a zip package with the linux x32 build.

for devcoind, it's ok and built, but as I came to devcoin-qt (never touch this before), I found linux build messed up by some windows clutters in bitcoin-qt.pro, so I pulled a new bitcoin-qt.pro from official bitcoin 0.8.5 and manually add curl and auxpow, then it built.

I admit they need a lot of .so files while we build them dynamically, I've put most uncommon ones into the tarball (the more common such as libz I think they are installed in most linux system), so please test if there's anything wrong:

http://d.evco.in/test/devcoin.tar.gz

I can't test if anythings wrong as Im not running on linux, my work machine is win64. You need to be sure this is good so we can package it up in the installer. I think later I or someone else can figure out how the getian builder works so maybe it will build on all platforms automatically using VM's.

No I'm not so sure this package is all ok, since I hacked the build scripts everywhere and not sure everything will be ok. so it's my purpose if any one else could test it first...

Ok so i think we probably just need to fix the .pro file maybe Ill take yours and get the windows one working since you took it from bitcoin. Did you change anythig else? Just the pro? the makefile for linux aswell right.