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Author Topic: ASICMINER Speculation Thread  (Read 808631 times)
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October 23, 2013, 12:08:26 PM
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Every share since the beggining earned 0.63 BTC in dividends. Let's say friedcat didn't earn IPO's first 0.1 BTC, so 0.53 BTC per share. I don't know how much of asicminers 236000 shares he owns, but I suppose it's one third. That means he earned 40 thousand BTCs in dividends. I don't think he needs to sell any shares to live happily ever after  Grin
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October 23, 2013, 12:10:39 PM
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Yes, FC has deservedly done well. But I was referring to the reserves Asicminer development funds.
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October 23, 2013, 12:22:04 PM
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Yes, FC has deservedly done well. But I was referring to the reserves Asicminer development funds.

Oh, sorry, I misunderstood you. It's hard to say. We will know more on sunday, when detailed financial report will be presented.
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October 23, 2013, 12:32:03 PM
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Yeah thanks I'm looking forward to that with great interest.
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October 23, 2013, 03:51:19 PM
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the last month was very easy to me to keep high dividends, Sell before them and buy cheaper after them. I assure you the difference is more profitable than simply receiving the divs  Grin

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October 23, 2013, 03:52:58 PM
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the last month was very easy to me to keep high dividends, Sell before them and buy cheaper after them. I assure you the difference is more profitable than simply receiving the divs  Grin

But with an associated increase in risk. The risk/reward paradigm remains intact.
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October 23, 2013, 06:49:54 PM
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the last month was very easy to me to keep high dividends, Sell before them and buy cheaper after them. I assure you the difference is more profitable than simply receiving the divs  Grin

Oh yah Loph you should go pick up your prize from that other thread Smiley
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=303221.msg3389349#msg3389349

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October 23, 2013, 07:43:32 PM
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Time for another speculation ....

AM seems to be withholding not just the mining income, but also from HW sales. I think the numbers are really looking good.

I was trying to track the usual HW sales from major GB resellers here on Bitcointalk. CanaryInTheMine's address is https://blockchain.info/address/1L3XSZpfsZtEXLwDDYjJfJHncaPxAngAyV ... He just sent about 100 BTC to 1PqMrF2axd4kuY9wosY4YZ3RdhWvDf7ZUP, which is now holding ~2168 BTC!

Looking at this last address, there's also some incoming BTC from a mining address.

We already know that another AM address is holding close to 10,000 BTC (from previous HW and mining income)
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October 23, 2013, 11:05:14 PM
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Time for another speculation ....

AM seems to be withholding not just the mining income, but also from HW sales. I think the numbers are really looking good.

I was trying to track the usual HW sales from major GB resellers here on Bitcointalk. CanaryInTheMine's address is https://blockchain.info/address/1L3XSZpfsZtEXLwDDYjJfJHncaPxAngAyV ... He just sent about 100 BTC to 1PqMrF2axd4kuY9wosY4YZ3RdhWvDf7ZUP, which is now holding ~2168 BTC!

Looking at this last address, there's also some incoming BTC from a mining address.

We already know that another AM address is holding close to 10,000 BTC (from previous HW and mining income)

Well the good news is that if Friedcat has not tapped into those BTC for reinvestment yet (i.e. converted to RMB or USD), he will get a lot more bang for the buck now that the prices have doubled over the last couple of weeks. There is always a silver lining Smiley
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October 23, 2013, 11:06:07 PM
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Time for another speculation ....

AM seems to be withholding not just the mining income, but also from HW sales. I think the numbers are really looking good.

I was trying to track the usual HW sales from major GB resellers here on Bitcointalk. CanaryInTheMine's address is https://blockchain.info/address/1L3XSZpfsZtEXLwDDYjJfJHncaPxAngAyV ... He just sent about 100 BTC to 1PqMrF2axd4kuY9wosY4YZ3RdhWvDf7ZUP, which is now holding ~2168 BTC!

Looking at this last address, there's also some incoming BTC from a mining address.

We already know that another AM address is holding close to 10,000 BTC (from previous HW and mining income)

Is this mean they can massive producing better ASIC in the future ? I think the talent pool in AM is the key issue ...and there still no anything about 2 gen has been released... this what I am really concern will AM  meet its scheduled in time?
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October 24, 2013, 12:06:24 AM
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well with btc is running to 1000 its not easy to decide cashing out to make miners or just holding it, well fc should just go get a fait lone from bank to minimize all the risk
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October 24, 2013, 01:39:24 AM
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The higher the exchange rate the longer you can keep selling ASIC miners.  However I'm not sure that will bring a higher BTC price to their stock.

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October 24, 2013, 02:28:14 AM
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the last month was very easy to me to keep high dividends, Sell before them and buy cheaper after them. I assure you the difference is more profitable than simply receiving the divs  Grin

Oh yah Loph you should go pick up your prize from that other thread Smiley
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=303221.msg3389349#msg3389349

OMG!!!! Thnks man..... OMG really thanks this is literally the first time I won a prize....

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October 24, 2013, 03:36:34 AM
Last edit: October 24, 2013, 04:00:07 AM by freedomno1
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the last month was very easy to me to keep high dividends, Sell before them and buy cheaper after them. I assure you the difference is more profitable than simply receiving the divs  Grin

Oh yah Loph you should go pick up your prize from that other thread Smiley
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=303221.msg3389349#msg3389349

OMG!!!! Thnks man..... OMG really thanks this is literally the first time I won a prize....

No prob and thanks for that micro tip ages back my first one ever ha-ha still is but no complaints XD
I remembered it and summoned your presence there XP
Also it is rare to win a prize I won the minecraft code here once should use it someday but Gz on your win Smiley

But Back to AM speculation the spread between AM1 and TAT is pretty big atm
AM1   8463   ฿0.56100001
AM100   374436   ฿0.00460000   

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October 24, 2013, 04:14:42 AM
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And yet STILL you cling to your irrationality! Bitfunder currently suggests a share price of 0.75/BTC, a price at this point still looks fairly generous to me.
So you still value it at 0.5 BTC?

Did you factor in the new ventures they are going to explore?

i.e. you factor them exactly 0, or you factor them to a positive, but you dropped your valutation of the original mining business, so that they add up anyway to 0.5?


I had expected AM to overdeliver. That didn't happen, as is obvious by an Oct 27 commit date for what had originally been planned for "Sept - Oct".

I changed my PT to 0.3 BTC/share back here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg3288563#msg3288563

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October 24, 2013, 09:05:58 AM
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Guys check this is quite funny

https://www.havelockinvestments.com/order.php?symbol=AM100

Someone is trying to stick the price or something.....  Huh

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October 24, 2013, 09:13:29 AM
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Guys check this is quite funny

https://www.havelockinvestments.com/order.php?symbol=AM100

Someone is trying to stick the price or something.....  Huh
true, quite odd.

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October 24, 2013, 05:11:42 PM
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Guys check this is quite funny

https://www.havelockinvestments.com/order.php?symbol=AM100

Someone is trying to stick the price or something.....  Huh
true, quite odd.

Hmm All I see are two walls at 0.45
Unless you were referring to the 10,000 wall at 0.55 that got eaten through

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October 24, 2013, 05:37:33 PM
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Guys check this is quite funny

https://www.havelockinvestments.com/order.php?symbol=AM100

Someone is trying to stick the price or something.....  Huh
true, quite odd.

Hmm All I see are two walls at 0.45
Unless you were referring to the 10,000 wall at 0.55 that got eaten through

Well it gave me a perspective on what the market trend is  Grin

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October 24, 2013, 09:56:55 PM
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will be interesting these next few days with the big rumor and financial report coming out.  Grin
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