[OLD] Eligius: ASIC, no registration, no fee CPPSRB BTC + 105% PPS NMC, 877 #

[matt4054]

Since about 2 days ago there is something weird with my stats/payouts, they seem to be "stuck" during rounds, and even during the lucky phase of each round, my shelved shares stay on the shelf.

It seems other contibutors' stats are OK. Could you please check this address? Thanks!

[Moebius327]

http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/http://eligius.st/

Shares are getting accepted.

[mb300sd]

Having some seriously shit luck lately... I have over 5 BTC shelved.

[HellDiverUK]

I stopped mining bitcoins several weeks ago, and I swear I was supposed to get my payout about 2 weeks ago - I distinctly remember being about 20th in payout queue.  Now it's saying I've got another 0.02BTC left to join the queue?    I've not got anything to date.  Seems a very long time to get my BTC.  What's happening?

  1Gy44xB4WL7jVepUPLJZJwdzjEz8BwpSKw

[WynX]

I stopped mining bitcoins several weeks ago, and I swear I was supposed to get my payout about 2 weeks ago - I distinctly remember being about 20th in payout queue.  Now it's saying I've got another 0.02BTC left to join the queue?    I've not got anything to date.  Seems a very long time to get my BTC.  What's happening?

  1Gy44xB4WL7jVepUPLJZJwdzjEz8BwpSKw

I see you started mining now again, so you'll be paid once you reach the 0.166xxx bitcoins. The payout queue is calculated by current 'As of last block' + 'estimated change'. Estimated change is depending on your current % of contributed shares for the block, so if you stop mining because you are in payout queue, if the block is hard to find, your % will drop significantly and therefore you might not be in the payout queue.
You can also enter payout queue due to inactivity, however, this is also depending on the latest payout of any shelved shares (CPPSRB).

[HellDiverUK]

Yeah, I threw a 7850 at BTC mining again, to see if I could get this payout kicked in.  I guess my shares did drop when I stopped then.     Ah well, I'll get there eventually.

[matt4054]

Since about 2 days ago there is something weird with my stats/payouts, they seem to be "stuck" during rounds, and even during the lucky phase of each round, my shelved shares stay on the shelf.

It seems other contibutors' stats are OK. Could you please check this address? Thanks!

Bump, problem still there... thanks

[pikeadz]

I have a problem with my stats as well.  The 3 hour and 22.5 minute stats have not been updating all day.  Also, the graph remains unchanged.  The estimated totals are updating, however, so I am pretty sure shares are being counted as normal.

[Luke-Jr]

[18:25:08] <wizkid057> replication died for some reason
[18:25:11] <wizkid057> stats will update shortly

[wizkid057]

[18:25:08] <wizkid057> replication died for some reason
[18:25:11] <wizkid057> stats will update shortly

I have a problem with my stats as well.  The 3 hour and 22.5 minute stats have not been updating all day.  Also, the graph remains unchanged.  The estimated totals are updating, however, so I am pretty sure shares are being counted as normal.

Replication of the database of shares to the webserver was stopped for some reason.  I restarted it and the stats will update shortly.

Since about 2 days ago there is something weird with my stats/payouts, they seem to be "stuck" during rounds, and even during the lucky phase of each round, my shelved shares stay on the shelf.

It seems other contibutors' stats are OK. Could you please check this address? Thanks!

Bump, problem still there... thanks

This is not an actual problem.  You are no longer mining here, and your older shelved shares are pushed behind the new shares from active miners during our past few unlucky rounds.  Since you are not mining, you no longer have any new shares in the top portion of the share log. So, this will make it take longer for the pool to dig down to the shares you do have in the share log, which are under the shares that are from active miners from the recent rounds which ere not yet fully paid.

Summary:  this is normal behavior.

I stopped mining bitcoins several weeks ago, and I swear I was supposed to get my payout about 2 weeks ago - I distinctly remember being about 20th in payout queue.  Now it's saying I've got another 0.02BTC left to join the queue?    I've not got anything to date.  Seems a very long time to get my BTC.  What's happening?

  1Gy44xB4WL7jVepUPLJZJwdzjEz8BwpSKw

I see you started mining now again, so you'll be paid once you reach the 0.166xxx bitcoins. The payout queue is calculated by current 'As of last block' + 'estimated change'. Estimated change is depending on your current % of contributed shares for the block, so if you stop mining because you are in payout queue, if the block is hard to find, your % will drop significantly and therefore you might not be in the payout queue.
You can also enter payout queue due to inactivity, however, this is also depending on the latest payout of any shelved shares (CPPSRB).

You may have seen yourself in the payout queue during the beginning of a round when the system could potentially have had enough to pay some of your shelved shares and bump you into the payout queue.  Most likely that didnt actually happen and the round was slightly longer than it needed to be to get to your shelved shares.  Normal behavior.  You'll likely have to continue mining if you want a faster payout, or your payout will timeout where it is at generally within a week if none of your shelved shares are paid.

I just don't understand why more people don't use Eligius?

I dont either.

-wk

[HellDiverUK]

You may have seen yourself in the payout queue during the beginning of a round when the system could potentially have had enough to pay some of your shelved shares and bump you into the payout queue.  Most likely that didnt actually happen and the round was slightly longer than it needed to be to get to your shelved shares.  Normal behavior.  You'll likely have to continue mining if you want a faster payout, or your payout will timeout where it is at generally within a week if none of your shelved shares are paid.

Thanks, I sort of figured that after I posted, thanks to WynX.   Eagerly awaiting my payout. 

[WynX]

You may have seen yourself in the payout queue during the beginning of a round when the system could potentially have had enough to pay some of your shelved shares and bump you into the payout queue.  Most likely that didnt actually happen and the round was slightly longer than it needed to be to get to your shelved shares.  Normal behavior.  You'll likely have to continue mining if you want a faster payout, or your payout will timeout where it is at generally within a week if none of your shelved shares are paid.

Thanks, I sort of figured that after I posted, thanks to WynX.   Eagerly awaiting my payout. 

It will come , but Wizkid is right, next to my explanation, also the holding of shelved shares (by stopping hashing in a particular round) can contribute to removal from the payout queue. All is normal behaviour indeed. Keep hashing like you're doing now, it should be done in a few days .

[HellDiverUK]

Typically the machine running the 7850 was a fresh install, and rebooted at 3am due to Windows Updates.    Forgot to turn those off.

What's with the horrible luck at the moment? 24% and falling ATM.

[spooderman]

Typically the machine running the 7850 was a fresh install, and rebooted at 3am due to Windows Updates.    Forgot to turn those off.

What's with the horrible luck at the moment? 24% and falling ATM.

yah, well we had some amazing luck about a week ago, got like 10 blocks in one day.

Would love some good luck now though

[pikeadz]

Typically the machine running the 7850 was a fresh install, and rebooted at 3am due to Windows Updates.    Forgot to turn those off.

What's with the horrible luck at the moment? 24% and falling ATM.

Blockchain.info says we found a block about 10 minutes ago, but the stats haven't updated (yet).  How long do they usually take?  

http://blockchain.info/block-index/395953/00000000000000361cc7c7cd7ebfa1b16228136f1cb2aff564ed141ddb23ce9d

Edit:  now it's showing under the round time.  Guess it just takes a while.

[plekhanov]

[18:25:08] <wizkid057> replication died for some reason
[18:25:11] <wizkid057> stats will update shortly

I don't see fresh stats older than 256 seconds, as of 06:17 forum time on 7/1/2013.

[matt4054]

Since about 2 days ago there is something weird with my stats/payouts, they seem to be "stuck" during rounds, and even during the lucky phase of each round, my shelved shares stay on the shelf.

It seems other contibutors' stats are OK. Could you please check this address? Thanks!

Bump, problem still there... thanks

This is not an actual problem.  You are no longer mining here, and your older shelved shares are pushed behind the new shares from active miners during our past few unlucky rounds.  Since you are not mining, you no longer have any new shares in the top portion of the share log. So, this will make it take longer for the pool to dig down to the shares you do have in the share log, which are under the shares that are from active miners from the recent rounds which ere not yet fully paid.

Summary:  this is normal behavior.

I think I understand CPPSRB quite well and, sorry, but I must insist:

Until June 26, I could clearly see my shelved shares getting included early during the lucky phase of rounds.

Since June 26, after a short "share strobe" (many shares for less than a minute), I have never seen any shelved share, even early after several rounds with much more than 100% luck / <50% CDF, taken from my shelved shares to payout. Not a single one. It is now the last day where you can see the "not flat" part on my stats graph.

To make my point stronger, I will make a 0.2 BTC donation (0.1 as a donation to the pool and 0.1 to the one that explains it to me, probably Wizkid) if you can look at it again, and explain to me why such a difference between before June 26 and after June 26, and again come to the conclusion that this is perfectly normal.

Thanks.

EDIT: 1st suspect to my eyes are these "strobes", you can see the 1st strobe coincides with the moment when I wouldn't get any more shares "unshelved" from that point.

[Moebius327]

Since about 2 days ago there is something weird with my stats/payouts, they seem to be "stuck" during rounds, and even during the lucky phase of each round, my shelved shares stay on the shelf.

It seems other contibutors' stats are OK. Could you please check this address? Thanks!

Bump, problem still there... thanks

This is not an actual problem.  You are no longer mining here, and your older shelved shares are pushed behind the new shares from active miners during our past few unlucky rounds.  Since you are not mining, you no longer have any new shares in the top portion of the share log. So, this will make it take longer for the pool to dig down to the shares you do have in the share log, which are under the shares that are from active miners from the recent rounds which ere not yet fully paid.

Summary:  this is normal behavior.

I think I understand CPPSRB quite well and, sorry, but I must insist:

Until June 26, I could clearly see my shelved shares getting included early during the lucky phase of rounds.

Since June 26, after a short "share strobe" (many shares for less than a minute), I have never seen any shelved share, even early after several rounds with much more than 100% luck / <50% CDF, taken from my shelved shares to payout. Not a single one. It is now the last day where you can see the "not flat" part on my stats graph.

To make my point stronger, I will make a 0.2 BTC donation (0.1 as a donation to the pool and 0.1 to the one that explains it to me, probably Wizkid) if you can look at it again, and explain to me why such a difference between before June 26 and after June 26, and again come to the conclusion that this is perfectly normal.

Thanks.

EDIT: 1st suspect to my eyes are these "strobes", you can see the 1st strobe coincides with the moment when I wouldn't get any more shares "unshelved" from that point.

Would sure use a good explanation. Why do I have more shelved shares then earned? Am I getting payed some day if I change pools?

[WynX]

Hmm, it's almost off charts now, hard to analyse for external parties (next to wizkid, timemachine being disabled). You seem to only have some spikes sometimes, yet I doubt they would ever contribute to a meaningful amount of accepted shares per round. Currently the rounding is a problem with these low or spiked hashrates, you don't see every satoshi. I can only assume these are credited however (else I'd never get anything lolz).

Edit; I do see similar behavior around the 26th on other stats (not mine, sorry for bringing random peoples stats to topic): http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1KwattJ8Vx5YKLhqzT4grcxjRwQL5f1GBp

[weaknesswaran]

The newest shelved shares are paid first.
If there is something left older shares a paid.
A long series of lucky rounds is needed to fulfil all shelved shares.