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Author Topic: [ANN]Bminer: a fast Equihash/Ethash/Cuckaroo29z miner for AMD/NVIDIA GPUs 16.4.9  (Read 148781 times)
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March 15, 2018, 07:31:45 AM
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Hi Bminer team,
is it possible for you to include some more information in the API response? Maybe in the next update?
I think it would be nice to get the GPU name, the pool and the user in the response.

Let me know what you think about it.
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March 15, 2018, 09:34:10 AM
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There is nothing impressive, difference between them two is very very small as you can see from Nicehash screenshot. Even bminer can handle higher OC, shows more sol/s in console, in reality in doesn`t translate in much higher valid share count on pool side.

I realize I can do lots of tests here to show many software programs against each other and how they stack up.

Having the 2 identical machines purchased on the same day and shipped to my house on the same day allow for a chance to fairly compare the various programs used on smos simple mining



test has just started about 9 hours.

bminer is better so far.

but that could simply be one omen dual 1080ti is better.

after 24 hours we switch software and see if  the better rates follow bminer to second omen





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March 15, 2018, 09:52:00 AM
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This tests don't have power consumption comparision.
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March 15, 2018, 12:12:10 PM
Last edit: March 16, 2018, 08:53:29 AM by Scorpio777
 #1024

To Developer: It would be very useful to see in statistic how many shares were send to developer too. And we need to see an exact time of working miner, because when the miner work about 20 hours the API report "a day" but not 21h 20min for example. Is it possible to add it in the future update?
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March 15, 2018, 12:31:08 PM
Last edit: March 15, 2018, 12:48:34 PM by philipma1957
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This tests don't have power consumption comparision.

yes they do  wait for screen shot
all gpus are set to
155 watts

all settings are the same, but  for the  actual power drawn  I need to stop at friends office and put the same meter on each one.

that  will be done in time  as I have to use the same k-watt meter as no k-watt meters are identical. so to test power would interrupt this stage of the test.


I SEE THAT bminer is reading higher cores with the same settings  look at screen shot .  this indicates how higher hash may be acheived.  it may also mean  the higher you do tdp and set the core clocks there will be a difference  between the 2 softwares.

Ie in a closed case at 155 watts  a  1080ti bminer wins
in an open case at 205 watts a 1080ti dstm wins
Much more complex  to test for but I can do it with the two identical pc's if I can cool the cards off



settings for bminer 5.5
https://i.imgur.com/7IPdxeA.png
settings for dstm 6.0
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March 15, 2018, 12:55:11 PM
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Scorpio, pools do not know your hashrate, they only estimate it.

Hi Bimmber

would you please explain to us how the pool works? usually how pool estimate the hashrate?

well you don't need to know that  and it varies pool to pool.
But it is a good question.  So here is an attempt to explain it.


They all count your good shares submitted to them.

They then  devide them by a time limit

and they say a rate.

That  is only an estimate  because you can toss  lots of (7's)  in a give time frame  and look like you have a higher rate then you do.

Of lots of good shares in hour 1 = high hash
followed by no shares in hour 2 = low hash


the reality is your tosses of the dice  per hour are your true hash rate
but pools only count  your good shares per hour  thus it is an estimate.

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March 15, 2018, 06:41:44 PM
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So phil  is bminer on omen  still doin better?

or has dstm caught up?
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March 15, 2018, 06:46:32 PM
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19 hours into first part of the test.

and bminer is 5% more earnings.

now  this is one of six parts to do a decent test.

part 1 24 hour test -------------  19 hours done

part 2 24 hour test flip the software
part 3 20 min  test  check power use on rig 1 with bminer
part 4 20 min test check power use  on rig 1 with dstm
part 5 20 min test check power use on rig 2 with bminer
part 6 20 min test check power use on rig 2 with dstm


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March 15, 2018, 07:01:14 PM
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Hi everybody! Smiley

Dear developer,

please, do something about permanent "updating" at the start of miner.
[INFO] [2018-03-15T23:11:01+06:00] Checking updates                             
[WARN] [2018-03-15T23:11:31+06:00] Failed to read from the network: Get : net/http: request canceled while waiting for connection (Client.Timeout exceeded while awaiting headers)

and so on.

bminer.me and bminercontents.com are unreachable because of provider block or something similar - downloading somewhere.
i suppose that is the key to the problem!


really many people got the problem with this "updating" feature.
its a problem because when "updating" finished, mining simply could not start with probable error. you waiting 5+ minutes - then an error. and starting over with config changes.

thank you!
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March 16, 2018, 12:16:35 AM
Last edit: March 16, 2018, 12:29:38 AM by philipma1957
 #1030

1st 24 hour test shows bminer is a clear winner  5%  on the plus





new test I flipped the pc's

so if  the pc was the reason  for success  and not the bminer this will show  the totals to get closer
but if the  bminer was the reason  and not the pc    the totals will get further apart in the favor of bminer.

be back in a day!

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March 16, 2018, 03:34:13 AM
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1st 24 hour test shows bminer is a clear winner  5%  on the plus

new test I flipped the pc's

Hello!

You performing nice test.
Already made this test on 1080Ti and got +9,6% and +2,6% after flipping tasks (in ZECs).
More Sols in miner, less Sols on pool, but more shares and money on pool as the result.

For good statistics we need more tests, especially when the winning not so high.
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March 16, 2018, 05:24:52 AM
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If it is to believed pool hashrate is correct, then Bminer does overstate hashrate in console by a big margin...

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11 038 in console, but just 10 094 on the pool...
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March 16, 2018, 11:57:55 AM
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Hi Bminer team,
is it possible for you to include some more information in the API response? Maybe in the next update?
I think it would be nice to get the GPU name, the pool and the user in the response.

Let me know what you think about it.

We would love to help:
Just understand your requests, you want to include the following two information in REST API response:

1.Device name: Something like "GTX 1080 Ti"?
2.Pool/User: We can put the whole uri path in REST API. This should contain all information include pool address and the user name. Is it enough?

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March 16, 2018, 11:59:17 AM
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Hi everybody! Smiley

Dear developer,

please, do something about permanent "updating" at the start of miner.
[INFO] [2018-03-15T23:11:01+06:00] Checking updates                             
[WARN] [2018-03-15T23:11:31+06:00] Failed to read from the network: Get : net/http: request canceled while waiting for connection (Client.Timeout exceeded while awaiting headers)

and so on.

bminer.me and bminercontents.com are unreachable because of provider block or something similar - downloading somewhere.
i suppose that is the key to the problem!


really many people got the problem with this "updating" feature.
its a problem because when "updating" finished, mining simply could not start with probable error. you waiting 5+ minutes - then an error. and starting over with config changes.

thank you!

We will address this issue in next time. For example, shorten the wait time and retry time.

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March 16, 2018, 12:24:18 PM
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If it is to believed pool hashrate is correct, then Bminer does overstate hashrate in console by a big margin...

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11 038 in console, but just 10 094 on the pool...

there is a really detailed answer to this problem here.
https://www.bminer.me/faq/#why-the-reported-hashrate-of-bminer-is-higher-than-the-reported-hashrate-from-mining-pools
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If it is to believed pool hashrate is correct, then Bminer does overstate hashrate in console by a big margin...









11 038 in console, but just 10 094 on the pool...

I can tell from my tests  so far that Bminer  is a little better then dstm.

And I can tell from my tests that Bminer reports more hash then dstm

1294 for 2 1080ti's  = Bminer

1257 for 2 1080ti's =  Dstm

these numbers are what smos reports and what can be seen if I attach  a monitor to  either pc

so 1294 /1257 = 1.0294   that means  Bminer  is 2.94% faster  then  Dstm  on identical machines with the same settings


nicehash  has reported   $5.37 in earning for dstm  and $5.48 in earns for bminer

so 548/537 = 1.0204    which is 2.04 % faster for bminer

so 2.94  vs  2.04  both show Bminer to be faster and the variance between 2.94 and 2.04  is small enough to be luck.

Bottom line   shows that bminer  would earn  more.

I will continue testing   but so far bminer shows  better hashrates at the pc and the pool  then dstm.

I still need to test power draw  those test will be next week.

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March 17, 2018, 09:51:39 AM
Last edit: March 17, 2018, 10:06:17 AM by Spi4ka
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bminer looking the best for equihash! just start testing 1070ti, the result is impressive
https://preview.ibb.co/dVYEqH/bminer.png

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March 17, 2018, 01:12:55 PM
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Now I flipped  pc's

and bminer did better on both pc's

not much but better.  say 2.4% more payment from nicehash  8.83 for bminer vs  8.62 for dstm

next week I will do power tests

same meter  on each machine  10 minute test  should show between 330 watts to 410 watts

Maybe I will post it on thurs.

so  if bminer uses 2 or 3 % more power it is still better. if it uses  20%  it is not better.

based on temp and fan readings  it will be around 1-4% more power for bminer



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March 17, 2018, 02:18:42 PM
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so  if bminer uses 2 or 3 % more power it is still better. if it uses  20%  it is not better.

based on temp and fan readings  it will be around 1-4% more power for bminer


Thanks, very interesting, please keep us updated about WATT results!
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March 17, 2018, 09:22:44 PM
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Now I flipped  pc's

and bminer did better on both pc's

not much but better.  say 2.4% more payment from nicehash  8.83 for bminer vs  8.62 for dstm

next week I will do power tests

same meter  on each machine  10 minute test  should show between 330 watts to 410 watts

Maybe I will post it on thurs.

so  if bminer uses 2 or 3 % more power it is still better. if it uses  20%  it is not better.

based on temp and fan readings  it will be around 1-4% more power for bminer


https://i.imgur.com/iQyEfcg.png

There is something strange with the time on your screenshots.
It says during your first test the workers were active for
dtsm 1449 minutes = 24h
bminer 842 minutes = 14h

and for the second test

dtsm 1925 minutest = 32h
bminer 2048 minutes = 34h

Haven't you stated you're running each test for 24h? This doesn't make sense to me.
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