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At one point it was in USD wasn't it? I thought it had a USD price and BTC price for batch one and some of batch two's first orders. These guys seem fair Im sure they will figure something out for small few that feel that got screwed. Although most of us understand the risk in pre-paying for hardware with BTC especially when the market is going nuts. Either way its a bummer to pay one price then to see a reduction a day later.
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October 20, 2013, 09:31:13 PM |
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At one point it was in USD wasn't it? I thought it had a USD price and BTC price for batch one and some of batch two's first orders. These guys seem fair Im sure they will figure something out for small few that feel that got screwed. Although most of us understand the risk in pre-paying for hardware with BTC especially when the market is going nuts. Either way its a bummer to pay one price then to see a reduction a day later.
The units were always in $USD until Paypal refused to play ball, at that point it should have switched to Bitpay, not straight BTC pricing which changes all the time.
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October 21, 2013, 12:08:02 AM |
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New pricing:
Drillbit Thumb - 0.65 BTC Drillbit 8 Board - 2 BTC Drillbit Miniplane - 0.25 BTC Drillbit Double Scroll - 0.25 BTC
@Barntech, I just wanted to clarify something if I ordered say 8, would I get a miniplane free each 4 or would I still need to buy the miniplane? I ask this because I see your website still stating "The 4 stack Miniplane (seen below) comes free with any order of 2 or more assembled drillbit boards.", just trying to figure out costs, thanks in advance
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October 21, 2013, 12:17:58 AM |
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Free miniplanes were only for Batch 1. All orders now (part of batch 2) require payment for the miniplanes.
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kmtan
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October 21, 2013, 12:20:19 AM |
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thanks for the update.
do you have schedule when will the board to be ship?
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terrapinflyer
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October 21, 2013, 12:48:13 AM |
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thanks for the update.
do you have schedule when will the board to be ship?
Hey guys. Apologies for not having posted for a while. Same old story, busy busy busy. So, some updates for you all. One batch of our chips has landed with our assembly people, the other is in transit and due to arrive this week. Hooray. Im guessing after the chips arrive and boards are assembled. Looks like they will be shipping pretty close to batch one at this rate.
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October 21, 2013, 02:15:55 AM |
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After working out the actual figures, I wasn't as much affected as I thought, it was under a hundred in the end. Rising BTC prices and all that.
Anyway indeed on to the more interesting topic of progress, hopefully the coding side is about finalised.
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jelin1984
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October 21, 2013, 06:10:06 AM |
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When you will have it at stock ?
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October 21, 2013, 06:37:58 AM |
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Ok, first things first, we now have hashing stable at 1.6 GH/s per chip! ... Now i know that sounds low, but there's still lots more tweaking to be done to get that rate up, which means we're getting close on the firmware (and by close i mean ACTUALLY close ) This means that we are looking really good to pull the trigger on full production very soon. Almost there guys! On the topic of the price drop, apologies to people who put their order in after the jump in BTC rate and before the price drop, there are only two of you. One i've already spoken with and the other i'll get in touch with now. It is certainly not intended to be unfair or milk extra cash from you, rather the opposite. It's hard with the rate jumping all over the place as it does. Part of the idea behind to switching prices into BTC is to create a market that is contained within BTC and not always referencing the dollar, after all, this is the dream right? That said, basically everyone is still needing to use dollars to purchase bitcoin anyway so we are not really there yet. When we arrive at the day when you're Bitcoin wallet is your main bank account, your job pays you in Bitcoin, and you use Bitcoin to buy milk at the corner store, THEN the fluctuations against the US dollar will not be so relevant anymore. Oh what a beautiful future vision! We are here to manifest that vision people. Go out and demand your bosses to pay you in BTC! ... but anyway, while we still wade through the cold murkiness of a US dollar lead world, I'm going to look into using Bitpay to pin our prices. Not exactly keen to actually use bitpay to receive payments, but we can use it as a reference to ride the waves of BTC rate change. See how we go. For now, the prices are the prices. Barntech
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October 21, 2013, 08:13:51 AM |
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Good news, looking forwards to getting my unit hashing away poor little block eruptors are feeling the strain these days !
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October 21, 2013, 08:26:59 AM |
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Ok, first things first, we now have hashing stable at 1.6 GH/s per chip! ... Now i know that sounds low, but there's still lots more tweaking to be done to get that rate up, which means we're getting close on the firmware (and by close i mean ACTUALLY close ) Barntech, 1.6 GH/s is ~60% of 2.7 GH/s What's current hashing speed expectations ? do you think you'll be able to get 2.7 GH/s with thumbs and 21.7 GH/s for boards ? that's thru overclocking, right ? Cheers.
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October 21, 2013, 08:34:45 AM |
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Ok, first things first, we now have hashing stable at 1.6 GH/s per chip! ... Now i know that sounds low, but there's still lots more tweaking to be done to get that rate up, which means we're getting close on the firmware (and by close i mean ACTUALLY close ) Barntech, 1.6 GH/s is ~60% of 2.7 GH/s What's current hashing speed expectations ? do you think you'll be able to get 2.7 GH/s with thumbs and 21.7 GH/s for boards ? that's thru overclocking, right ? Cheers. What does the title of this thread say? I would imagine that would be the current expectation.
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October 21, 2013, 08:45:04 AM |
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erk,
That's my understanding as well, I just wanted to clarify if the numbers in the thread subject are correct and achievable based on the hardware specs and if it's just a matter of software tweaking.
Cheers.
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October 21, 2013, 09:14:36 AM |
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There are several other asic miners using the same chips that are getting between 2.5 and 2.7 GH/s per chip so it is most likely a matter of tweaking. It is not like you can go to the book store and pic up some code examples and be on your way with these custom asic chips.
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October 21, 2013, 09:59:29 AM |
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There are several other asic miners using the same chips that are getting between 2.5 and 2.7 GH/s per chip so it is most likely a matter of tweaking. It is not like you can go to the book store and pic up some code examples and be on your way with these custom asic chips.
Like the Avalon chip ... voltage is the key.
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Its About Sharing
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October 21, 2013, 10:43:58 AM |
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There are several other asic miners using the same chips that are getting between 2.5 and 2.7 GH/s per chip so it is most likely a matter of tweaking. It is not like you can go to the book store and pic up some code examples and be on your way with these custom asic chips.
I know Burnin Mining was shooting for 5Ghash/s per chip using an external clock BUT I haven't heard anything about that again. So, My guess is 2.5 and stabile. To get to 2.7 it is probably going to be pretty inefficient for guys like me with .28 kwh electricity to pay for. Close close, so exciting! A real miner and not just an erupter.
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BTC = Black Swan. BTC = Antifragile - "Some things benefit from shocks; they thrive and grow when exposed to volatility, randomness, disorder, and stressors and love adventure, risk, and uncertainty. Robust is not the opposite of fragile.
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October 21, 2013, 11:09:30 AM |
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There are several other asic miners using the same chips that are getting between 2.5 and 2.7 GH/s per chip so it is most likely a matter of tweaking. It is not like you can go to the book store and pic up some code examples and be on your way with these custom asic chips.
I know Burnin Mining was shooting for 5Ghash/s per chip using an external clock BUT I haven't heard anything about that again. So, My guess is 2.5 and stabile. To get to 2.7 it is probably going to be pretty inefficient for guys like me with .28 kwh electricity to pay for. Close close, so exciting! A real miner and not just an erupter. Bitfury spec their chips at 2GH/s anything higher is an overclock and required decent cooling, voltage tweaks etc. I certainly won't be running the chips above 2.5GH/s.
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October 21, 2013, 02:45:57 PM |
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Ok, first things first, we now have hashing stable at 1.6 GH/s per chip! ... Now i know that sounds low, but there's still lots more tweaking to be done to get that rate up, which means we're getting close on the firmware (and by close i mean ACTUALLY close ) This means that we are looking really good to pull the trigger on full production very soon. Almost there guys! On the topic of the price drop, apologies to people who put their order in after the jump in BTC rate and before the price drop, there are only two of you. One i've already spoken with and the other i'll get in touch with now. It is certainly not intended to be unfair or milk extra cash from you, rather the opposite. It's hard with the rate jumping all over the place as it does. Part of the idea behind to switching prices into BTC is to create a market that is contained within BTC and not always referencing the dollar, after all, this is the dream right? That said, basically everyone is still needing to use dollars to purchase bitcoin anyway so we are not really there yet. When we arrive at the day when you're Bitcoin wallet is your main bank account, your job pays you in Bitcoin, and you use Bitcoin to buy milk at the corner store, THEN the fluctuations against the US dollar will not be so relevant anymore. Oh what a beautiful future vision! We are here to manifest that vision people. Go out and demand your bosses to pay you in BTC! ... but anyway, while we still wade through the cold murkiness of a US dollar lead world, I'm going to look into using Bitpay to pin our prices. Not exactly keen to actually use bitpay to receive payments, but we can use it as a reference to ride the waves of BTC rate change. See how we go. For now, the prices are the prices. Barntech What's the consumption at 1.6Gh? Some people mostly care about Gh/W, the total hashing power being a secondary stat.
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October 21, 2013, 07:52:54 PM |
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What's the consumption at 1.6Gh? Some people mostly care about Gh/W, the total hashing power being a secondary stat.
The very top of the OP states 0.8W/Ghps. Is there any information on how the W/Ghps for these chips compare to other ASIC vendors (KnC, CoinTerra, Monarch, etc)? To me this determines if the chips are useable for a long time, or if they are just a short term novelty that will be useless in a few months. I was burned by just how inefficient the Avalon gen1 chips were compared to other ASIC vendors, as a result they will be shut off soon just like GPU & FPGA rigs. I'd prefer something that makes sense to leave running for awhile...
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October 21, 2013, 08:10:15 PM |
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What's the consumption at 1.6Gh? Some people mostly care about Gh/W, the total hashing power being a secondary stat.
The very top of the OP states 0.8W/Ghps. Is there any information on how the W/Ghps for these chips compare to other ASIC vendors (KnC, CoinTerra, Monarch, etc)? To me this determines if the chips are useable for a long time, or if they are just a short term novelty that will be useless in a few months. I was burned by just how inefficient the Avalon gen1 chips were compared to other ASIC vendors, as a result they will be shut off soon just like GPU & FPGA rigs. I'd prefer something that makes sense to leave running for awhile... Although possible, nobody runs them at 0.8Watt/GH/s more likely to be at 1.0w or more if you overclock. There is plenty of information about the Bitfury chips in the Bitfury development thread under custom hardware.
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